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skinsfan69 05-15-2008 11:02 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
[quote=tryfuhl;448721]Giants won when it mattered. Had they not squeaked by in the SB everyone wouldn't be talking as much about the huge need for a killer d-line. They'd be talking about the 18 near murders that the Patriots put on through the rest of the year. What the Pats did on offense all year greatly eclipses what the Giants front 4 did.[/quote]

I don't know about that. Yes, NE's 07 offense was record breaking. But I'm sure if you asked Brady and Moss they'd probably throw those records away if they could've gotten the win over the Giants.

Redskins247 05-15-2008 11:08 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;448728]So to jump in here...but I firmly disagree. It doesn't matter what you do during the season, you HAVE to bring home the big one, or none of it matters. What the Giants did in the SB does indeed eclipse the offensive juggernaut that was the Patriots in 07. The Giants won when it mattered.[/QUOTE]

I too have to go 100% here with Jsarno...the Giants D-line did what no other defense did ALL SEASON! And that was get in Brady's face all game.

That being said...if we "somehow"...could get Taylor at the right price (aka not one that would break our bank as in the past) I'd be all for bringing him on-board. For the same reason that we're talking about...D-line!!! Let's pretend and be SUPER optimistic and say the Redskins go to the Super Bowl this year and face the Pats, assuming their offense is like last years, who here would feel confident with the D-line the way it is against the Pats as of right now???

jsarno 05-15-2008 11:21 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
[QUOTE=Redskins247;448741]I too have to go 100% here with Jsarno...the Giants D-line did what no other defense did ALL SEASON! And that was get in Brady's face all game.

That being said...if we "somehow"...could get Taylor at the right price (aka not one that would break our bank as in the past) I'd be all for bringing him on-board. For the same reason that we're talking about...D-line!!! Let's pretend and be SUPER optimistic and say the Redskins go to the Super Bowl this year and face the Pats, assuming their offense is like last years, who here would feel confident with the D-line the way it is against the Pats as of right now???[/QUOTE]

I absolutely agree.
Although we'd have to take something an 8 mil salary too. Not so sure we need that. But if we could somehow restructure him, I'm all for it.

The Goat 05-15-2008 11:30 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
Personally, I keep waiting for A. Montgomery to form into an A. Haynesworth level DT. I remember Williams talking about Montgomery's unlimited potential, that he did not even understand how good he could be. Since the coaches/FO have chosen to leave the d-line unchanged I keep thinking it could be that they see a break out year ahead too. Then we've got Evans, not much younger than the starters but he seems to produce when he gets his chances.

I'm probably being too optimistic but what I hope to see is a rotation where Griffin and Montgomery can consistently pressure up the middle while Evans and Daniels can swap out. AC doesn't need a rotation because he's in better shape than every other guy on the field.

I still wish we could have drafted d-line talent (and maybe a Taylor deal could work) but at this point I hope Blache and the guys are harnessing every bit of talent we have.

skinsfan69 05-16-2008 01:08 AM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
[quote=The Goat;448745]Personally, I keep waiting for A. Montgomery to form into an A. Haynesworth level DT. I remember Williams talking about Montgomery's unlimited potential, that he did not even understand how good he could be. Since the coaches/FO have chosen to leave the d-line unchanged I keep thinking it could be that they see a break out year ahead too. Then we've got Evans, not much younger than the starters but he seems to produce when he gets his chances.

I'm probably being too optimistic but what I hope to see is a rotation where Griffin and Montgomery can consistently pressure up the middle while Evans and Daniels can swap out. AC doesn't need a rotation because he's in better shape than every other guy on the field.

I still wish we could have drafted d-line talent (and maybe a Taylor deal could work) but at this point I hope Blache and the guys are harnessing every bit of talent we have.[/quote]

Montgomery is the key. He is now going into his 3rd year and he now has two years under his belt. I'm looking for him to take the next step.

dmek25 05-16-2008 06:14 AM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
this is the deal. Taylor has pro bowl skill. Taylor probably has at least 2 more productive seasons. Taylor will be 34. and Taylor makes big money. these stats should be telling everyone, no way we want him here. just say no to J.T.

MTK 05-21-2008 04:16 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
Now it's getting interesting:

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3406638&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines]ESPN - Taylor-made split? Dolphin won't attend workouts or training camp - NFL[/url]

skinsfan69 05-21-2008 04:49 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
[quote=Mattyk72;449464]Now it's getting interesting:

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3406638&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines"]ESPN - Taylor-made split? Dolphin won't attend workouts or training camp - NFL[/URL][/quote]

I'm going to have to side with management on this one. If you want to do that crap and dance around on tv then retire. He's making 8 mil a year so get your ass in with the rest of your teamates and get to work. You won one freaking game last year and you want to go on Dancing With The Stars?? I don't blame Parcells and Ireland for giving him the silent treatment.

Giantone 05-21-2008 04:54 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
[quote=dmek25;448771]this is the deal. Taylor has pro bowl skill. Taylor probably has at least 2 more productive seasons. Taylor will be 34. and Taylor makes big money. these stats should be telling everyone, no way we want him here. just say no to J.T.[/quote]


yeh,yeh but can he dance???:laughing2

Paintrain 05-21-2008 05:00 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;449466]I'm going to have to side with management on this one. If you want to do that crap and dance around on tv then retire. He's making 8 mil a year so get your ass in with the rest of your teamates and get to work. You won one freaking game last year and you want to go on Dancing With The Stars?? I don't blame Parcells and Ireland for giving him the silent treatment.[/QUOTE]

Anything other than training camp is voluntary. If he wants to show up on day one and go from there, then nobody should say a word. Now if he doesn't report to camp, as Sparano indicated, then that would be a problem but until then it's just a bunch of lip flap from talking heads.

ArtMonkDrillz 05-21-2008 05:00 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
[QUOTE=Giantone;449469]yeh,yeh but can he dance???:laughing2[/QUOTE]Oh, he can dance. He can dance if he wants to; He can leave his team behind. 'Cause his team don't dance, and if they don't dance, well, they're no team of mine.

Redskins247 05-21-2008 07:46 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;449472]Oh, he can dance. He can dance if he wants to; He can leave his team behind. 'Cause his team don't dance, and if they don't dance, well, they're no team of mine.[/QUOTE]

Hilarious.....nice one! :goodjob:

djnemo65 05-21-2008 08:26 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
Jason Taylor was recently recorded calling a television station. Very interesting stuff. Here is an audio recording of that conversation.

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skinsfan69 05-21-2008 09:20 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
[quote=Paintrain;449471]Anything other than training camp is voluntary. If he wants to show up on day one and go from there, then nobody should say a word. Now if he doesn't report to camp, as Sparano indicated, then that would be a problem but until then it's just a bunch of lip flap from talking heads.[/quote]

Even though the OTA's and offseason programs are voluntary you're expected to be there. Especially the OTA's when the coaches are installing the new systems. What Taylor is doing is flat out wrong.

T.O.Killa 05-21-2008 10:29 PM

re: The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)
 
I think at best Jason Taylor is worth a third rounder. I would give up a fourth for him right now. I doubt this will happen because the Redskins love Phillip Daniels. Much to my chagrin, the Redskins have extended Daniels contract, for another three years.


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