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I think if you start off determining who your players are - based on money first, then you are in trouble as a team. I understand that there's a balance and the salary cap does play an important part in it, but when you start ranking and determining player's values based first on how much they affect the cap, I think that your scale of judgment and decision-making doesn't fit with what you are trying to accomplish.

I guess it's a sign of the times when you start looking at the financial situation first.

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We should be prepared for this offseason to be very similar to last offseason, just without the draft picks. Not much FA activity, mostly the same stale, old roster and praying we make it thru OTA's and camp without many injuries.

Re: 2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts
 

[quote=Paintrain;523936]We should be prepared for this offseason to be very similar to last offseason, just without the draft picks. Not much FA activity, mostly the same stale, old roster and praying we make it thru OTA's and camp without many injuries.[/quote]

Much better than overpaying free agents that have bust written all over it or trading our draft picks away. Once again, the Redskins are not going to get out of the hole they dug themselves in two, three seasons ago with these overpriced free agents and contract re-structures. I'm just glad they are not doing this crap anymore.

Re: 2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts
 

[quote=Ruhskins;523940]Much better than overpaying free agents that have bust written all over it or trading our draft picks away. Once again, the Redskins are not going to get out of the hole they dug themselves in two, three seasons ago with these overpriced free agents and contract re-structures. I'm just glad they are not doing this crap anymore.[/quote]

I agree about overpaying older free agents and trading draft picks. Thanks to Gibbs we are about 3 more years away from building a competitive roster but it would have been nice to be able to address needs and shed contracts this offseason.

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[quote=Paintrain;523946]I agree about overpaying older free agents and trading draft picks. Thanks to Gibbs we are about 3 more years away from building a competitive roster but it would have been nice to be able to address needs and shed contracts this offseason.[/quote]

True, I was of the mindset of slash and cut old players, but I think the cap gurus show that this is not possible.

Re: 2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts
 

[quote=Ruhskins;523940]Much better than overpaying free agents that have bust written all over it or trading our draft picks away. Once again, the Redskins are not going to get out of the hole they dug themselves in two, three seasons ago with these overpriced free agents and contract re-structures. I'm just glad they are not doing this crap anymore.[/quote]

That's funny because the reason why we will still be in this same mess next season is because Vinny has already traded our draft picks away. Not doing this crap anymore? Does Jason Taylor ring a bell?
Vinny isn't getting any smarter, he's just run out of money and draft picks to continue his charade and if you really think him and that clown owner have wised up, then show me proof. Give me an example of their sudden maturity and wisdom. I bet you can't.

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Why did you join this site if all you're going to do is bitch and moan (often with made up information) on nearly every post. "Because I'm a die-hard fan, blah blah blah" Sure, maybe you are, but there must be better things to do with your time than join a board just to complain.

Re: 2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts
 

[quote=MdBluefinCrab;523971]That's funny because the reason why we will still be in this same mess next season is because Vinny has already traded our draft picks away. Not doing this crap anymore? Does Jason Taylor ring a bell?
Vinny isn't getting any smarter, he's just run out of money and draft picks to continue his charade and if you really think him and that clown owner have wised up, then show me proof. [B]Give me an example of their sudden maturity and wisdom. I bet you can't.[/B][/quote]

Even if I could you wouldn't change your attitude, so just stop being a fan. Are you going to fire Vinny Cerrato? Are you going to buy the Redskins from Dan Snyder? No, so then just stop it with your pissy attitude and go root for another team. Dont' forget that by supporting the Redskins, buying merchandise, or even watching the game you are supporting Dan Snyder and the team. So just stop it, you might as well be one of the non-fans that post on this board.

Re: 2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts
 

you know much of this negativity changes if JC shows up firing next season as well as a healthy JT and CP. A healthy and stable line, maybe missing some youth in some positions. And a maturing bunch of rookies of which if only one stands out can change a lot without the need for a big offseason draft of which we will get something good im sure

Zorn will have had a year under his belt with the needed time to evaluate and implement his plan of attack.

So there are things to look forward to even with what we have already. I believe in the talent of our team. We should be excited about watching the Redskins execute the WCO. I'm Looking forward to this coming season! Sorry about the optimism.

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I think we'll be good if the coaches have a bigger say in personnel decisions then vinny and snyder will usually let go of. I trust Zorn I think he's made some pretty smart personel decisions when given the chance and I think that draft was as much his as Vinny's but looking at the situation he was in at Seattle and trying to recreate they're offensive succes I think he saw a huge opportunity going with WRs in the draft. The seahawks never had great wide receivers and I think he didn't want to have that same issue holding us back. It was also aided by common belief that our team was in desperate need of a big WR and our offense was stable and being held back by this. I think he knows a lot better this year, a majority of his decisions personel wise to me seemed to be pretty intelligent and as a rookie head coach I will cut him some slack botching the portis and rogers situations but it is what it is and Zorn and Portis are goign to clash but I don't think either is stupid enough to let arguments affect production again. Still I don't like the Rogers situation but I think someone will step in and point out how little sense it makes.

Re: 2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts
 

[I][quote=44ever;523978]you know much of this negativity changes if JC shows up firing next season as well as a healthy JT and CP. A healthy and stable line, maybe missing some youth in some positions. And a maturing bunch of rookies of which if only one stands out can change a lot without the need for a big offseason draft of which we will get something good im sure

Zorn will have had a year under his belt with the needed time to evaluate and implement his plan of attack.

So there are things to look forward to even with what we have already. I believe in the talent of our team. We should be excited about watching the Redskins execute the WCO.[B]I'm Looking forward to this coming season! Sorry about the optimism[/B][/I]

Yeah, what the hell is wrong with you. :)

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I thought you all might like this ...just to add a little humor to all our edgyness lately. LOL.

[url=http://www.nfldraftdog.com/NFL%20Team%20Columns/washington_redskins_nfl_team_col.htm]Washington Redskins NFL Team Column[/url]

Re: 2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts
 

I Also found this one to be interesting. It was written just after our 2008 draft. Interesting points about our picks. I loved how they were totally wrong about Horton. LOL.

[url=http://cfn.scout.com/2/749765.html]Scout.com: Washington Redskins - NFC East[/url]

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Does anyone agree with me on drafting Rey Maualuga? The only sure fire OT prospects will be gone as well as the only viable 1st round pass-rusher (Orakpo). I think we should have learned our lesson about drafting purely on need from last years run on pass catchers and reaching for Rhinehart.

If our organization wants to get better then the need to adopt a simple philosophy with high draft picks. DRAFT BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE! Fill needs in middle to late rounds. That's what the Patriots do and that's what the Ravens do.

Maualuga has all the potential to be special and players like that don't come around often (a la Sean Taylor). We need to start thinking long term building and stop just putting out fires. Fletcher is like 35 and Washington can't stay on the field.

Who's with me?

Re: 2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts
 

[quote=Son Of Man;524051]Does anyone agree with me on drafting Rey Maualuga? The only sure fire OT prospects will be gone as well as the only viable 1st round pass-rusher (Orakpo). I think we should have learned our lesson about drafting purely on need from last years run on pass catchers and reaching for Rhinehart.

If our organization wants to get better then the need to adopt a simple philosophy with high draft picks. DRAFT BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE! Fill needs in middle to late rounds. That's what the Patriots do and that's what the Ravens do.

Maualuga has all the potential to be special and players like that don't come around often (a la Sean Taylor). We need to start thinking long term building and stop just putting out fires. Fletcher is like 35 and Washington can't stay on the field.

Who's with me?[/quote]


I'm not the biggest fan of Maualuga personally (though I think he's good) and I wonder if he can play the outside, which is where I think we need the most help. Even with Fletcher showing age we do have Blades there ready to go. Unless, as some speculate, Blades is a better fit to play the weakside.

I've heard a lot of speculation lately about Aaron Maybin as well. A pick like him so high I wonder about though. His specialty is rushing the passer which is great, but what else does he offer? And what would his role in 2009 be?

Perfect world we get Vernon Carey in FA, trade down and are able to pick up Duke Robinson and Tyson Jackson in the late first/early second, my main man Connor Barwin in the 3rd, and somehow find a way to get Tyrell Sutton or Jeremiah Johnson later in the draft.

But if we stay at #13 I see no reason to think one of the top five OTs (A. Smith, J. Smith, Monroe, Oher, Britton) won't be there for the taking.

As for drafting the BPA, I agree wholeheartedly within reason. We're not going to spend the 13th pick in the draft on a QB even if he's the best player available, unless we've got a trade lined up already.