Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1001338]No, they wouldn't back them. Only to secure their border so they wouldn't get a mass of refugees fleeing into their country. Hell if anything, they'd probably help at this point seeing as they've stopped a good bit of their trading with NK since the nuke test.



I still don't think people are really taking them serious.

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/u-north-korea-not-backing-threats-military-moves-185342098--politics.html]U.S.: North Korea not backing up threats with military moves[/url]




[B]People who attack, generally don't do it by announcing it to the world or making youtube videos on how they are going to dominate the US. [/B] They strike without warning so they can have the upper hand. This is the young boy's dog and pony act to show his people and generals he can bullshit like the best of em.[/quote]

People who rule countries don't usually starve their people and keep them in near total darkness while constantly bombarding them with propaganda about destroying the enemy. That is unless they have no ability to lead them in a different direction.

NKorea is in the dark ages, and that goes for their leaders too. If he saber rattles too much, and then does nothing, his sway in the military will certainly take a hit, and he might not be willing to let that happen.

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At this point, i think it would be hillarious if the US responded to North Koreas threats in like manner:

"We have 200 nuclear submaries, each armed with 32 nuclear warheads. we have 100 nuclear missle silos scattered around our country. We have bombers, drones, and stealth planes also armed with nuclear warheads. We have the power to vaporize your entire country 800 times over. Half of your country doesnt even have electricity. Do you really want to F*ck with us?"

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Might wanna do some fact checking before you rattle your sabre that hard.
We only have 14 subs that carry nuclear misles.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1001718]Might wanna do some fact checking before you rattle your sabre that hard.
We only have 14 subs that carry nuclear misles.[/quote]

I thought it was obvious that i was just making up numbers to prove a point, but i should have clarified.

Interestingly, i was on CNN in this morning and saw this:

[url=http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2013/03/world/nuclear-weapon-states/?iid=article_sidebar]Nuclear weapons: Who has what?[/url]

Country / Estimated warheads
United States: 7,650
Russia: 8,420
United Kingdom: 225
France: 300
China: 240
India: 80-100
Pakistan: 90-110
North Korea: Fewer than 10
Israel: 80
Iran: 0

I was pretty shocked at how many active Nukes the US and Russia still had, and i didnt know France had any.

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10 well placed nukes do a whole lotta damage. Of course the key words there are "well placed" and I am not sure NK could do that part.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1001721]I thought it was obvious that i was just making up numbers to prove a point, but i should have clarified.

Interestingly, i was on CNN in this morning and saw this:

[url=http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2013/03/world/nuclear-weapon-states/?iid=article_sidebar]Nuclear weapons: Who has what?[/url]

Country / Estimated warheads
United States: 7,650
Russia: 8,420
United Kingdom: 225
France: 300
China: 240
India: 80-100
Pakistan: 90-110
North Korea: Fewer than 10
Israel: 80
Iran: 0

I was pretty shocked at how many active Nukes the US and Russia still had, and i didnt know France had any.[/quote]


:oink:
Sorry I get kinda anal when it comes to quoting military capabilities.

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Check this video of nuke blast testing history.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U8CZAKSsNA[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1001742]Check this video of nuke blast testing history.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U8CZAKSsNA[/url][/quote]

Not to bash the US but it really does point out the hypocrisy of the US no testing policy. Suppose your neighbor had a gun, and every day for 1 year tweaked it and test fired it, after a while you start feeling a little jealous/afraid/concerned/anxious and think, I will get a gun and do it too. Well by that time he has his gun pretty well polished, and sees you get a gun and fire a couple dummy rounds and says "hey those are dangerous, we need to limit how often you can test it". My guess is you would at least silently go tell him to do "nice things" with his gun and limits

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[url=http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/01/world/asia/north-korea-defectors/index.html]North Korean defectors return rhetorical fire - CNN.com[/url]



Should watch this short documentary called "Inside North Korea". Very enlightening and creepy about their country. Empty hotels, restaurants, another places normally that would be filled with people.

(part 1)
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24R8JObNNQ4[/url]

(part 2)
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw46Ll-Zy4s[/url]


(part 3)
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HJj85K_7MQ[/url]

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[url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/north-korea-leader-kim-jong-uns-98511]North Korea leader Kim Jong-un’s schooldays in Switzerland revealed - Mirror Online[/url]

A good read on Kim Jong Uns past in Switzerland.

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Adding to the good reads, this one is pretty brief but higlights some of the country's ridiculousness.

[url=http://www.smh.com.au/comment/north-korea-is-a-joke-thats-why-its-so-dangerous-20130401-2h2ih.html]North Korea is a joke. That’s why it’s so dangerous[/url]

[QUOTE]In official accounts, the birth of his successor, Kim Jong-il, was accompanied by the appearance of a double rainbow. This secretive boy with a bouffant was cast as the god of sport, among other things. When he played his first ever round of golf in 1994, he supposedly scored 11 holes-in-one; North Korea's football coach said that Jong-il guided the team during the 2010 World Cup with the help of an invisible phone - technology that the regime claimed the leader himself had invented.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Confronting the US is a matter of personal honour, a fact underlined by an extraordinary order given that, should war occur, a priority must be protecting the nation's 35,000 statues of the Kims.

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/03/world/asia/guam-u-s-missiles/index.html]U.S. sending defensive missiles to Guam - CNN.com[/url]

Im sure China is thrilled about this.

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[quote=Chico23231;1001842][url=http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/03/world/asia/guam-u-s-missiles/index.html]U.S. sending defensive missiles to Guam - CNN.com[/url]

Im sure China is thrilled about this.[/quote]

China wont mind.
Those are purely a defensive tool.
And if they just deploy just a few batteries its more for show than anything.

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1001843]China wont mind.
Those are purely a defensive tool.
And if they just deploy just a few batteries its more for show than anything.[/QUOTE]

the american military has spoken.

of course China minds more advanced military hardware in its backyard. and as much as they hate the North Koreans they sure don't want a US backed South Korea on its border.

if interested here is a link to the North Korean news outlet. I certainly have not studied the past blusters of North Korea, but some of these news releases sound pretty damn serious to me. You can see how they are portraying everything to their citizens, who can't go to the internet and compare or see opposing views. I would imagine the conservatives of North Korea are saying they need to strike out before the US and SK puppet military try to destroy their society.
[url]www.kcna.kp[/url]

edit. I copied the link from the english version, but it goes to the korean language version. there is a link for the english translation though.

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Guam is a long way from mainland China.
Thats about the same distance from kansas City to Los Angeles so I wouldnt call that Chinas back yard and since Guam is American soverign territory China can kiss my lily white a$$ regarding what we have there.
And I doubt the Patriots bother them much considering our missle subs,
B-52s and aircraft carrier battle groups have been stationed/frequenting there for a long time.
And if this is just a token amount of missle batteries then I suspect its just a show of resolve and not really much of a weapons deployment.