Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

I would rather have Kevin Kolb or David Carr. They need to trade for one of them immediately IMO.

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;606680]Lol yea and j Russell is tall and has a big arm, so what's the point? Jc is a backup qb at best and I've said that all offseason when I wanted cutler or sanchez![/quote]

be a jets or bear fan and your dreams can come true plus Russell's completion percentage was like 38% i believe JC is in the mid 60's

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

[quote=Redskin Warrior;606685]be a jets or bear fan and your dreams can come true plus Russell's completion percentage was like 38% i believe JC is in the mid 60's[/quote]

The russell comparison was a joke dude.. lol and I would KILL myself if I was a Jets or Bears fan, hell we have 3 super bowl title's thats more than both of them combined, all I'm saying is JC can't get it done and you know it too.

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;606687]The russell comparison was a joke dude.. lol and I would KILL myself if I was a Jets or Bears fan, hell we have 3 super bowl title's thats more than both of them combined, all I'm saying is JC can't get it done and you know it too.[/quote]

can you honestly said that those QB's could have won the game today with the same personnel?

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

[quote=Redskin Warrior;606691]can you honestly said that those QB's could have won the game today with the same personnel?[/quote]

I honestly don't know bro, Listen I like JC but he has a BAD record as a Starter, every year we make excuses for JC, and every year he struggles, as a die hard skins fan you have to agree that it's time for a change of QB and head coach

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

Our offense is holding this team hostage and HC Zorn this falls on your shoulders cause you had all off season to fix this and its worst than last season. Shame on you for not having any balls if you think we needed to draft a Linebackers(Henson,Cody Glenn) rather than O-Lineman . You are to nice and nice guys get their lunch money taken

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;606694]I honestly don't know bro, Listen I like JC but he has a BAD record as a Starter, every year we make excuses for JC, and every year he struggles, as a die hard skins fan you have to agree that it's time for a change of QB and head coach[/quote]

I'm fine with trying new blood but keep JC on as a backup TC should be getting ready to hang it up anyway soon. His age will catch up with him and his isn't Saunders offense and he struggled in the preseason. JC can be a NFL starter with the right tools and production from others.

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

Right now i dont what the answer is at QB in this sorry ass system and terrible O-Lineman. We have 3 second round picks who have not excelled in the offense. They say it all starts up front and up front it doesn't look good. I guess Jon Jansen wasnt so bad.

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

[quote=Redskin Warrior;606698]I'm fine with trying new blood but keep JC on as a backup TC should be getting ready to hang it up anyway soon. His age will catch up with him and his isn't Saunders offense and he struggled in the preseason. JC can be a NFL starter with the right tools and production from others.[/quote]

I agree man, jc would be the best backup in the NFL and I'm not knocking him, the dude has heart but lacks real star talent

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

Well the only way we get a great QB is to draft 1 and we don't have a good track recorded drafting QB's. So I'm not thinking drafting a QB with our 1st round pick in 2010 cause its not easy evauluating QB's out of college. Every WR gets open in college football but in the NFL that window so much smaller.

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;606700]I agree man, jc would be the best backup in the NFL and I'm not knocking him, the dude has heart but lacks real star talent[/quote]

His talent is there but his development has been hindered tremendously. From high school to college there is an adjusment to be made whether it is the speed of the game or whatever same with the pros. Most high school & college QB's go through the same system throughout their 3 or 4 years. And if they do change systems it's once not more than that Campbell is in his seven or eight (not sure which one) system since his senior year in high school.

All four years in Auburn he changed systems and still lead his team to a 13-0 season. That's hard to have to learn a position on another level and a new system every year or so. And still manage to perform good enough to remain the starter every year. Rapid changes in agenda has made JC think more about things that most QB's get down pat in college. Matt Ryan you can tell he came from a pro-like system in college plus he was a 4-year starter in the same system as well. His growing pains aren't like JC at all.

I truly believe if he is in a system for at least three years consecutively he could be something special look at Brady he sitting behind Bledsoe in NE for a while in the same system. The Pats replaced coordinators but the system is still in place. Peyton changed from Mora's to Dungy look how long his was in that system 6 or 7 years at least before they won the big one. Eli has been under the same system since he was drafted in NY he looked like a bust at one time now he looks better than his brother at times. It's all about the right structure and stability we don't have it yet.

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

[quote=Redskin Warrior;606709]His talent is there but his development has been hindered tremendously. From high school to college there is an adjusment to be made whether it is the speed of the game or whatever same with the pros. Most high school & college QB's go through the same system throughout their 3 or 4 years. And if they do change systems it's once not more than that Campbell is in his seven or eight (not sure which one) system since his senior year in high school.

All four years in Auburn he changed systems and still lead his team to a 13-0 season. That's hard to have to learn a position on another level and a new system every year or so. And still manage to perform good enough to remain the starter every year. Rapid changes in agenda has made JC think more about things that most QB's get down pat in college. Matt Ryan you can tell he came from a pro-like system in college plus he was a 4-year starter in the same system as well. His growing pains aren't like JC at all.

I truly believe if he is in a system for at least three years consecutively he could be something special look at Brady he sitting behind Bledsoe in NE for a while in the same system. The Pats replaced coordinators but the system is still in place. Peyton changed from Mora's to Dungy look how long his was in that system 6 or 7 years at least before they won the big one. Eli has been under the same system since he was drafted in NY he looked like a bust at one time now he looks better than his brother at times. It's all about the right structure and stability we don't have it yet.[/quote]

We won't have stablity because Dan will fire Zorn and JC will not be back next season. So I guess we will have to learn a new system again. But the system we have now doesnt fit the players we have here on offense.

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

Eli has lost ALL of his skill players the last 2 1/2 years , Barber=shockey=Plax=Toomer , romo-girl has lost , Keyshawn-Glenn-TO<RW hurt > , McNabb has never had great WR's and this year he and Kolb have put 30 pts per game w/ westbrook out/hurt . JC is an ok QB , if he were on Denver ,Cinc. Ind. or Minn, those teams would be 2-3 , not 4-1 / 5-0. JC is a great guy and hard worker , just not a very good NFL Qb.

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

Why trade one bad QB for a worse QB. I wouldnt want either.

Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
 

I want to let the new GM pick a new QB for his hand picked HC. And I want to go 1-15 next year while we raze the current team/staff to the ground. And I want the fans to be patient with the new regime. And I want DS not to binge/purge like an anorexic schoolgirl owner. And I want a billion dollars.

I know one of those things ain't happening. I hope the others do.