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Didn't realize Brown was slipping either. He's always been, as far as I know, pegged in the late 1st to early 2nd.

Saffold is rising a lot. Eagles, among other teams, are showing strong interest in him and could be targeting him with their 1st round pick

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im down for any of the top tier tackles but i would stay away from anthony davis. seems like an exact clone of andre smith last year.

dedication, conditioning issues. was suspended a few times for missing/being late to team meetings. was demoted to the 2nd team at rutgers for reporting overweight.

missed his pro day b/c he was "sick". (i say he was out of shape, given his track record)

alot like andre smith who had the same conditioning and off field issues. also missed his pro day. i think davis actually stayed at the combine unlike davis who just left. andre smith then went on to be drafted top 10 by the bengals, holds out for along time then injures himself for the year on the first day he joins the team.

i despise players like this. im not knee jerk reacting when a player does this consistently for 4 years.

i would avoid players like this at all costs. with such a good quantity of 1st round talent at tackle, i dont see why we would have to settle for a davis.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;677545]Didn't realize Brown was slipping either. He's always been, as far as I know, pegged in the late 1st to early 2nd.

Saffold is rising a lot. Eagles, among other teams, are showing strong interest in him and could be targeting him with their 1st round pick[/quote]

I meant as far as being considered like an 18-25 guy. I guess "apparently" was the wrong word though; more so "according to Kirwan" (at least in his recent mock) who had him going at pick 26 to the Cardinals before this version. Still though, that's only one man's speculation at this point.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d81714d0c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Mock draft 4.0: If Clausen slips, Bills could take him at No. 9[/url]

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=murphy196;677421]Your thoughts on taking McCoy and Tebow over Clausen based on Stats are just absurd. Granted my tone was that of an a-hole, I'm just tired of people that aren't well informed on these guys.[/quote]

I agree with you that Clausen is the better prospect. There are plenty of people who think McCoy will be better though. To each his own. It doesn't necessarily mean that someone who doesn't agree is not as "well informed" as you. And actually since none of us have, met with, worked out or viewed all the coaches tape on these prospects we are all not well informed to some extent.

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And on Clausen, as I posted in the Clausen has met with the Skins thread, he will not be working out at his pro day. He's rescheduled his workout for April 9th.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;677532]wow, i hadnt heard that.... although i doubt he'd slip all the way to our 2nd round pick (at the bottom of the 2nd round after the trade with the vikings). In that case, i'd take Campbell or Saffold at 17. From what i've read, theres a substantial drop-off in talent after the first 6-7 OTs, where as theres not much difference between the top tackles not named okung.[/quote]

I wouldn't say theres much of a drop off in talent as there is a dropoff in NFL ready players. Guys like Vladimir Ducasse and Jared Veldheer. Both of those guys could easily be this years Sebastian Vollmer.

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[quote=murphy196;677421]Your thoughts on taking McCoy and Tebow over Clausen based on Stats are just absurd. Granted my tone was that of an a-hole, I'm just tired of people that aren't well informed on these guys.[/quote]

I seen McCoy throughout his college career since I live in The Big 12 Country. McCoy throws a better pass than Clausen. He hits his WR in stride more often the Clausen. I was watching some of Jimmys highlights. The passes he completes makes his WR stop and comeback. The others would get picked by any starting secondary in the league and just cuase he plays from under center more often than most makes him ready to start, doesn't sell me on him. On Tebow I feel they way he changed his delivery in such a short time and WOWED all the scouts shows his commitment to being the best, and with his body of work proves he will bust his but off to acheiving excellence. Hell even Shanny and Allen had to go take a look at him to see what the hype was about.

I know there are hundreds of guys here who can disect this apart and make a case for me being wrong. But this is just my opinion.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;677545]Didn't realize Brown was slipping either. He's always been, as far as I know, pegged in the late 1st to early 2nd.

Saffold is rising a lot. Eagles, among other teams, are showing strong interest in him and could be targeting him with their 1st round pick[/quote]

Certainly possible. Eben Britton was given a slightly higher grade last year by Scouts inc then Charles Brown currently has (89 for Britton 86 for Brown) and Britton lasted till the 39th pick (7th in the 2nd or as some of my friends would say a 39th round pick).

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[quote=GTripp0012;677233]Options are:

-I would not be willing to use the 37th overall pick on Jimmy Clausen
-I would be willing to spend the 37th overall pick on Clausen, but not trade up for him
-I would be willing to trade our fourth round pick to move up 2-6 spots and ensure that we get him, even if it looks like we can get him at 37.
-I would be willing to trade up about 10 picks into the back end of the first round (ahead of, say, Arizona), at the cost of the 2011 2nd rounder.
-If Jimmy Clausen is available after the 16th pick in the first round, we should trade our 2011 first rounder to ensure we get him.

Note: in all situations, you would be using the second round pick in part of the trade/selection process.[/quote]

[B]I would be willing to spend the 37th overall pick on Clausen, but not trade up for him[/B]

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LOL, this topic is hilarious. I'd trade up to get Bradford if I had to. Give the Rams JC and this yrs #4 pick and maybe even throw in Carter if I had to since he's not happy with the 3-4. Campbells gone after this year so we might as well get something worth while for him.

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[quote=SBXVII;677681]LOL, this topic is hilarious. I'd trade up to get Bradford if I had to. Give the Rams JC and this yrs #4 pick and maybe even throw in Carter if I had to since he's not happy with the 3-4. Campbells gone after this year so we might as well get something worth while for him.[/quote]Then when they say no, you just go bash some heads? Show em how its done!

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

I would say anywhere...Clausen is a can't miss prospect and should be treated as such. We'll be lucky to get him.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=tootergray34;677693]I would say anywhere...[B]Clausen is a can't miss prospect [/B]and should be treated as such. We'll be lucky to get him.[/quote]

most NFL GMs and media pundits would disagree with you. what do you know that people who do this for a living (and get paid 6-7 figures annually to do so) don't?

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=tootergray34;677693]I would say anywhere...Clausen is a can't miss prospect and should be treated as such. We'll be lucky to get him.[/quote]

lol...

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He slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night!



I love that line!