Re: 47% Will Pay No Federal Income Tax
 

i don't understand, are the 47% not receiving a federal deduction from their paycheck or does it mean that when they file for their return, if they owe money, they don't have to pay it ?

how does someone know if you qualify for this(besides making between x amount of dollers) 16% of people making between 50 and 100 k qualify. how can i find out if i'm one of those 16% ?

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;686059]That grammar, even for you, is pathetic. Do you realize you just wrote "firsth" and "secondth?" You are going to give me an aneurysm.[/quote]

he prolly meant IF instead of TH. 1 if by land 2 if by sea.:oink:

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I don't always agree with people like CRedskins, GMscud, and FRPLG, but at the end of the day I do respect their ability to cogently present and argue their respective positions. But Firstdown, you are just a headscratcher. 　You are against tax-cuts now? I really question whether you even understand your own political philosophy.

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[quote=hooskins;686039]LOL this is hilarious. Basically the poor shouldnt get tax relief, is what first is saying.lol, tax cuts baby, you got em.

First wants trickle down economics.[/quote]

Trickle down economics is only applicable in a strip club type business model.

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[quote=djnemo65;686098]I don't always agree with people like CRedskins, GMscud, and FRPLG, but at the end of the day I do respect their ability to cogently present and argue their respective positions. But Firstdown, you are just a headscratcher. 　You are against tax-cuts now? I really question whether you even understand your own political philosophy.[/quote]

Yeah people try to switch up arguements, but when it comes down to the basic principle of are you keeping more of your money vs is the government keeping more of it, most republicans I know identify former idea. I think the switch up of arguements is do to the fact who is in the office of the President or controlling congress at the time. Im sure if these tax breaks were during Bush's time in office, this thread would be started celebrating this fact.

That's why politicals discussions are just such horsesh*t these days. People are so polarized and not will to give credit when due or admitt when their side is wrong...its really quite funny.

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[quote=Chico23231;686164]Yeah people try to switch up arguements, but when it comes down to the basic principle of are you keeping more of your money vs is the government keeping more of it, most republicans I know identify former idea. I think the switch up of arguements is do to the fact who is in the office of the President or controlling congress at the time. Im sure if these tax breaks were during Bush's time in office, this thread would be started celebrating this fact.

That's why politicals discussions are just such horsesh*t these days. People are so polarized and not will to give credit when due or admitt when their side is wrong...its really quite funny.[/quote]

That my friend is the truth.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;686059]That grammar, even for you, is pathetic. Do you realize you just wrote "firsth" and "secondth?" You are going to give me an aneurysm.[/quote]

Learn to have fun. Life is too short. LOL

Re: 47% Will Pay No Federal Income Tax
 

[quote=firstdown;686208]Learn to have fun. Life is too short. LOL[/quote]


It is fun to read poor grammar? Ok.

Re: 47% Will Pay No Federal Income Tax
 

Guy's I'm not against the poor getting a tax break they always have and always will. The problem is that half of the people in the US now pay no federal taxes at all and over a 1/4 get refunds and they pay nothing to start with. There is a problem with this and its keeps getting worse. How the hell are we going to pay for Obama care, SS, medicare, etc... you know all these failing social programs the left loves so much. Maybe we sould do away with them and cut taxes even more and that fine by me. If your going to support these programs like the left does then you have to make everyone pay for them. I'm all for helping out people down on their luck but I'm guessing 30% of these people are just lazy asses and never pay into the system which is what I have a problem with.

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First off, this thread is retarded. Not because of the topic, but because of the mostly inane discussion that has ensued. There are some good points scattered but by and large, most of these posts are drivel.

I think I can wrap up firstdown's feelings pretty succinctly. He's in favor of lower taxes, but still thinks everyone should pay their fair share of those lower taxes.

In other words, he'd be more in favor of a flat tax, while keeping taxes relatively low.

I don't think for a second he's doing the math on that, but those are his feelings. Firstdown, go back to high school and take some expository writing classes. For Christ's sakes, you write like a child.

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if he took some of those classes, what would be talk about?

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[quote=firstdown;686212]Guy's I'm not against the poor getting a tax break they always have and always will. The problem is that half of the people in the US now pay no federal taxes at all and over a 1/4 get refunds and they pay nothing to start with. There is a problem with this and its keeps getting worse. How the hell are we going to pay for Obama care, SS, medicare, etc... you know all these failing social programs the left loves so much. Maybe we sould do away with them and cut taxes even more and that fine by me. If your going to support these programs like the left does then you have to make everyone pay for them. I'm all for helping out people down on their luck but I'm guessing 30% of these people are just lazy asses and never pay into the system which is what I have a problem with.[/quote]

What about all teh social programs the right loves using tax payer money?

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;686259]What about all teh social programs the right loves using tax payer money?[/quote]

What [I]Right[/I] are you talking about?

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Not the conservatives but the facists.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;686259]What about all teh social programs the right loves using tax payer money?[/quote]

Can you be more specific about which social programs are you referring to?