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Giantone 06-22-2011 08:02 AM

Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;807794]Funny thing is most of the "work" we do is sitting around the office. Usually people that are working more then 40 hours per week every week are procrastinating. O


.[/quote]


Wrong, you make an awful big assumption here.

CRedskinsRule 06-22-2011 09:16 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;807802]I think the biggest name for the Redskins should be Paul Soliai, the NT from Miami. The guy is 27 years old, 6'4", 355 lbs and has played well in Miami. Here's the scouting report on him:

"He is a load at the point of attack. He is a short-area block gobbler at the nose tackle position. He is strictly a first- and second-down player in Miami's scheme. He has zero sacks in his first three NFL seasons. He is a player who is a load at the point of attack. He plays with good leverage. He shows first step explosiveness getting into blockers. He uses his hands well to discard and make plays in line. His limitations are rushing the passer and making plays outside the A gaps."[/quote]

Miami did use the Franchise Tag on him. Now, we don't know that it will still apply, but I think that is an indication that Miami isn't letting him go without a fight.

[url=http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-02-24/dolphins-use-franchise-tag-on-nt-soliai]Dolphins use franchise tag on NT Soliai - NFL - Sporting News[/url]

CRedskinsRule 06-22-2011 09:23 AM

Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal
 
Does anyone think that a ruling from Doty (on the TV deals) or from 8th District CoA would derail the process that is happening now? I am just curious because clearly either of those could happen at any point now. Do the negotiations have enough steam to get over one side or the other being handed an unexpected or major victory, such as the DCoA siding with the players or Doty awarding an incredibly small amount?

SmootSmack 06-22-2011 09:43 AM

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[url=http://mike-freeman.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6264363/30186109]The Daily Shoutout - CBSSports.com[/url]

SmootSmack 06-22-2011 09:44 AM

Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;807831]Does anyone think that a ruling from Doty (on the TV deals) or from 8th District CoA would derail the process that is happening now? I am just curious because clearly either of those could happen at any point now. Do the negotiations have enough steam to get over one side or the other being handed an unexpected or major victory, such as the DCoA siding with the players or Doty awarding an incredibly small amount?[/quote]

No.

We're almost there fellas. Free Agency is right around the corner. It's like March in July!

CRedskinsRule 06-22-2011 09:49 AM

Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal
 
[quote=SmootSmack;807835]No.

We're almost there fellas. Free Agency is right around the corner. It's like March in July![/quote]

Man, I hope you are right about that!!!

Ruhskins 06-22-2011 09:51 AM

Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;807828]Miami did use the Franchise Tag on him. Now, we don't know that it will still apply, but I think that is an indication that Miami isn't letting him go without a fight.

[url=http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-02-24/dolphins-use-franchise-tag-on-nt-soliai]Dolphins use franchise tag on NT Soliai - NFL - Sporting News[/url][/quote]

I thought they had tendered him since the league was still under 2010 rules...but yeah from this article it seems that they used the franchise tag. Ugh. Maybe we can get Franklin?

freddyg12 06-22-2011 09:57 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;807835]No.

We're almost there fellas. Free Agency is right around the corner. It's like March in July![/quote]

Glad to hear you're confident about it. I was thinking that maybe the reports on this snowballed into this unofficial consensus that a deal was close to done, but in reality it might not be [I]that[/I] close. In fairness, I've read that mid-july is realistic and anything could still happen.

With all the reporting now giving hope to the fans, it will be a major pr issue if this falls through. Guess that's one more reason that both sides need to get a deal.

SmootSmack 06-22-2011 10:12 AM

Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal
 
[quote=freddyg12;807841]Glad to hear you're confident about it. I was thinking that maybe the reports on this snowballed into this unofficial consensus that a deal was close to done, but in reality it might not be [I]that[/I] close. In fairness, I've read that mid-july is realistic and anything could still happen.

With all the reporting now giving hope to the fans, it will be a major pr issue if this falls through. Guess that's one more reason that both sides need to get a deal.[/quote]

Mid July is realistic for free agency. For all intents and purposes, from all I've heard the deal is just about agreed upon (and I realize "just about" is as dangerous a term as "he has potential"), but it may take 2-3 weeks to make that a formal CBA.

53Fan 06-22-2011 10:22 AM

Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal
 
[quote=SmootSmack;807835]No.

We're almost there fellas. Free Agency is right around the corner. It's like March in July![/quote]

:towel: :grouphug: :woot:

SBXVII 06-22-2011 01:48 PM

Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;807831]Does anyone think that a ruling from Doty (on the TV deals) or from 8th District CoA would derail the process that is happening now? I am just curious because clearly either of those could happen at any point now. Do the negotiations have enough steam to get over one side or the other being handed an unexpected or major victory, such as the DCoA siding with the players or Doty awarding an incredibly small amount?[/quote]

Thats why there is a mediator, and why the 8th Circuit has said they would hold off ruling as long as progress is being made.

MTK 06-22-2011 01:52 PM

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Yeah I think as long as talks are progressing, there won't be a ruling. That is the last resort and nobody wants to see that happen.

BigHairedAristocrat 06-22-2011 06:45 PM

Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal
 
Given that the NFL won't lift the lockout until an actual CBA is finalized, and even an agreement in principle is still weeks away (and a CBA will take several More weeks or even months and then the whole legal process starts, then if the CBA is approved there's weeks of free agency and training camp) i just don't see how games won't be missed.

The players gave up some money- the owners should return hat good faith and lift the lockout, or atleast allow free agency to start, as soon as an agreement in principle is reached. Perhaps both sides can agree to follow 2010 fa rules until the agreement is done

Dirtbag59 06-22-2011 06:49 PM

Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal
 
[quote=Giantone;807817]Wrong, you make an awful big assumption here.[/quote]

Have you not seen the stats of how much time is spent during the workday on non-work related activities?

[quote]For many American workers today, time's a wastin' - literally. According to a new survey by America Online and Salary.com, the average worker admits to frittering away 2.09 hours per 8 hour workday, not including lunch and scheduled break time. As a matter of practice, companies assume a certain amount of wasted time when determining employee pay. However, the America Online / Salary.com survey indicates that employees are wasting about twice as much time as their employers expect. Salary.com calculated that employers spend $759 billion per year on salaries for which real work was expected, but not actually performed.[/quote]

Giantone 06-22-2011 07:15 PM

Re: Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;807957]Have you not seen the stats of how much time is spent during the workday on non-work related activities?[/quote]


Oh you mean the stats from that survey payed for by "big business" oh please !Myself and thousands others like me are on standards from the time we get to work to the time we leave so don't throw some BS out there and think it applies to all.America on Line....(AOL) really???


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