Re: Mike Lombardi Links Kyle Orton to the Redskins
 

What about sign Vince Young then draft Brandon Weeden or Russell Wilson later in the draft?

Re: Mike Lombardi Links Kyle Orton to the Redskins
 

[quote=SBXVII;881845]Orakpo is the only issue. I think Smith did admirably with being thrown in with little eperience. Given another offseason I think he would be that much better. Plus he did admirably agains decent talent. The OL almost played better in those last 4 games vs. the middle of the year.[/quote]

Yes he did, but we would need Smith to overtake RT when Brown gets injured or does not perform well this season. Or we could flip Williams to RT if Smith continues to perform better, whatever that works. We would only cripple our o-line if we trade away our best o-line player. We have a great duo in Orakpo and Kerrigan and I am pretty sure we can expect more out from them in next season, why destroy it?

Re: Mike Lombardi Links Kyle Orton to the Redskins
 

[quote=skinsfan69;881893]1. No one is bringing in Orton as a starter
2. No one is paying him 5-6 mil a year.[/quote]

1. our team is the redskins so any thing is possible, we brought in Rex to be our starter.
2. the money thing he probably could get 2-3 million a year.

Re: Mike Lombardi Links Kyle Orton to the Redskins
 

[quote=redskins5044;881926]1. our team is the redskins so any thing is possible, [B]we brought in Rex to be our starter.[/B]
2. the money thing he probably could get 2-3 million a year.[/quote]

No, we brought Rex in to back up McNabb and then got stuck in a corner when DMac5 didn't work out.

Re: Mike Lombardi Links Kyle Orton to the Redskins
 

[quote=diehardskin2982;881908]What about sign Vince Young then draft Brandon Weeden or Russell Wilson later in the draft?[/quote]

That can't be serious.

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[quote=Lotus;881937]No, we brought Rex in to back up McNabb and then got stuck in a corner when DMac5 didn't work out.[/quote]

we went into last year with Grossman and Beck. that is horrible either way and they went with Grossman to start the season. I would understand this if we would have drafted a QB last year but we didnt.

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[quote=Lotus;881937]No, we brought Rex in to back up McNabb and then got stuck in a corner when DMac5 didn't work out.[/quote]
There were other options availble through draft, FA and trade.

We didn't draft a QB anywhere in the entire draft; not even a late round flier on a developmental guy like TJ Yates or Tyrod Taylor.

We didn't trade for a QB.

Then we [I][B]signed[/B][/I] Rex Grossman.

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[quote=30gut;881986]There were other options availble through draft, FA and trade.

We didn't draft a QB anywhere in the entire draft; not even a late round flier on a developmental guy like TJ Yates or Tyrod Taylor.

We didn't trade for a QB.

Then we [I][B]signed[/B][/I] Rex Grossman.[/quote]

I agree. And I wish we had availed ourselves of other options. I was just responding to a statement which said that we brought Wrecks in specifically to start.

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I think the only reason the FO didn't bring in someone new is that they new there was no reason to waste resources on a QB when there was not much in terms of talent to work with yet. Add in the lockout, and that is why we saw what we did last year with the QB position.

Orton is better than any QB currently on the Skins, and is an upgrade over Grossman hands down.

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[quote=Lotus;881988]I agree. And I wish we had availed ourselves of other options. I was just responding to a statement which said that we brought Wrecks in specifically to start.[/quote]You and me both bro, and yeah I saw the post you responded to and I think its correct to state that Rex was brought in to start last year *shrugs*

btw-love the 'wrecks' for rex, i gotta borrow that

Re: Mike Lombardi Links Kyle Orton to the Redskins
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;881992]I think the only reason the FO didn't bring in someone new is that they new there was no reason to waste resources on a QB when there was not much in terms of talent to work with yet. Add in the lockout, and that is why we saw what we did last year with the QB position.[/quote]No offense but this sounds like a rationalization of a poor decision.*shrugs*

You can say there wasn't much talent but the talent that we did have was held back to substandard level of QB play.

Every team was in the same boat last offseason yet other teams made better choices at the QB.

[quote]Orton is better than any QB currently on the Skins, and is an upgrade over Grossman hands down.[/quote]And Orton was available last offseason and available again on the waiver wire.

Re: Mike Lombardi Links Kyle Orton to the Redskins
 

[quote=Lotus;881988]I agree. And I wish we had availed ourselves of other options. I was just responding to a statement which said that we brought Wrecks in specifically to start.[/quote]

You see it that way, I see it as when the signed him last year after the lock out he was going to be the starter.

Re: Mike Lombardi Links Kyle Orton to the Redskins
 

[quote=redskins5044;882006]You see it that way, I see it as when the signed him last year after the lock out he was going to be the starter.[/quote]

Ok, fair enough. I was talking about our acquisition of Wrecks in the first place because of the difference between "bring in" and "re-sign."

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I am not an Orton fan. I could have lived with him going into last year BUT my meaning was somewhat of a rationalization for the FO. At the same time I can see why they would not want to give away a draft pick for KO. Also I can see why they would not want to add him in the middle of the year after he was waived.

I could also see Orton not being in the plans and this is just some rumor. You never know. I also can't imagine Orton would be plan A.

Re: Mike Lombardi Links Kyle Orton to the Redskins
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;881731]I hope the hell not, rather keep Grossman then.[/quote]

I second this thought. Why sign K.Orton when he would spend the off season learning a new offense. Might as well resign Rex and draft a QB in the 2nd rd if we cannot draft RGIII. I know Grossman isnt the long time solution but at least he can run our offense until our Rookie gets a grasp on the offense. Orton may take care of the ball more but that doesnt mean he would produce more wins if he became our starter. Rather keep Rex until we have a better option.