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[quote=NC_Skins;1085596]Nothing fickle about it. Philly was missing quite a bit from the OL. There was no excuse as to why we couldn't get the same type of result from the Philly game. At least 1 or 2 sacks with a banged up line. Nobody said the coaches/players were clueless, but the job didn't get done. So it's either one or the other. Is it the players? .........Is it the coaches? It's about consistency. It's about adjusting. Philly adjusted we did not. [B]For fucks sake man, they scored 37 points on us. That's not the mark of a good defense.[/B][/quote]

The Eagles are currently the #2 ranked offense in the NFL in scoring and #3 overall.
Redskins are coming off a 3-13 season and our defense was terrible in 2013.
QB Nick Foles and Chip Kelly's offense is very good and well respected.

Found this: In Week 9 of 2013 Nick Foles became the second NFL quarterback to post a perfect passer rating (158.3) while passing for more than 400 yards, and the first NFL quarterback to post a perfect passer rating and throw seven touchdowns in a single game. Foles holds the best TD-INT ratio in the NFL with 27 touchdown passes and only 2 interceptions which he accomplished during the 2013 season,
This has to factor into it a little bit.
While I am disappointed our defense did not play better, we were playing a very good offense and QB.

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without Hatcher

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[quote=Hog1;1085650]without Hatcher[/quote]

and Coefield

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[quote=NC_Skins;1085596]Nothing fickle about it. Philly was missing quite a bit from the OL. There was no excuse as to why we couldn't get the same type of result from the Philly game. At least 1 or 2 sacks with a banged up line. Nobody said the coaches/players were clueless, but the job didn't get done. So it's either one or the other. Is it the players? .........Is it the coaches? It's about consistency. It's about adjusting. Philly adjusted we did not. For fucks sake man, they scored 37 points on us. That's not the mark of a good defense.[/quote]
In the 2nd half, coming out of the half Philly had:

7 play 60 yd, ending in FG
9 play 48 yd ending in FG
5 play 17 yd ending in Punt
5 play 26 yd ending in Punt
8 play 76 yd ending in TD
4 play 2 yd(critical stop after INT) ending in FG
3 play -10 yd ending in Punt

The first half they had drives of 48, 80, and 64 that resulted in a Fumble and 2 TDs.

I would say that they adjusted pretty good. Sure, Rather not give up early Touchdowns but you can't say they didn't adjust, just because sack numbers didn't go up. Even on the TD drive in the 4th, it was stopped on 3rd and 5 but the interference penalty gave them the first, and then an exceptional catch by Maclin on the next 3rd and 8.

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[quote=Defensewins;1085639]The Eagles are currently the #2 ranked offense in the NFL in scoring and #3 overall.
Redskins are coming off a 3-13 season and our defense was terrible in 2013.
QB Nick Foles and Chip Kelly's offense is very good and well respected.
[/quote]

They are a solid offense but rankings don't mean anything this early.
They've played 3 shitty defense. If they light up SF for 37pts then i will be impressed.

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Going back to last year I think Kelly and the Eagles are well established as an offensive powerhouse.

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[quote=jamf;1085656]They are a solid offense but rankings don't mean anything this early.
They've played 3 shitty defense. If they light up SF for 37pts then i will be impressed.[/quote]

Did you miss the part of my post of the stats from last season?

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What was so disappointing about giving up 30 points was we contained both McCoy and Sproles. Riley got exposed, Macklin and the rookie just abused us. Not sure putting Merriweather in there was a good idea as he'd been out for a few weeks, but there was no other option. Thomas and Rambo have turned out to be bad draft picks as neither have contributed anything at all.

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[quote=Defensewins;1085639]The Eagles are currently the #2 ranked offense in the NFL in scoring and #3 overall.
Redskins are coming off a 3-13 season and our defense was terrible in 2013.
QB Nick Foles and Chip Kelly's offense is very good and well respected.

Found this: In Week 9 of 2013 Nick Foles became the second NFL quarterback to post a perfect passer rating (158.3) while passing for more than 400 yards, and the first NFL quarterback to post a perfect passer rating and throw seven touchdowns in a single game. Foles holds the best TD-INT ratio in the NFL with 27 touchdown passes and only 2 interceptions which he accomplished during the 2013 season,
This has to factor into it a little bit.
While I am disappointed our defense did not play better, we were playing a very good offense and QB.[/quote]

Time to start giving Foles the respect he deserves. He's a pretty damn good QB.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1085668]Time to start giving Foles the respect he deserves. He's a pretty damn good QB.[/quote]

Yeah I have been reluctant to do so, but the man is good, and tough as well. In the second half he was getting hit left and right, gotta see if his body can keep up that kind of toughness getting smacked every week with that O Line in shambles.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1085668]Time to start giving Foles the respect he deserves. He's a pretty damn good QB.[/quote]

They have nothing but love for him in Philly and that is a rare thing.

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[quote=Defensewins;1085663]Did you miss the part of my post of the stats from last season?[/quote]

No, but that was last year.
I said they are a good offense but I wouldn't go as far as matty did and call them a power house(this year).

They are missing their best deep threat and there is a year of game film on them.
Spoles helps but I want to see them play a team with a defense that isn't historically bad like the skins and jags.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1085672]Yeah I have been reluctant to do so, but the man is good, and tough as well. In the second half he was getting hit left and right, gotta see if his body can keep up that kind of toughness getting smacked every week with that O Line in shambles.[/quote]

Foles is the real deal. Sunday's game confirmed that in my mind. Our D was disappointing. Period. It wasn't like we turned the ball over and put them in a bad position, or had crappy punts that put them in a bad position. (In fact, Way has been stout -- best punter we've had (so far) in a while.) 30 points on sustained drives; that doesn't happen to good defenses, and we're not there yet. The injuries are rough, and exposing the lack of depth. Cofield, Hatcher (hopefully it is mild), Nield -- if Baker gets hurt, we're screwed in the middle. Ihenacho, Hall, Thomas -- all tough injuries in the secondary; two guys out for the year, another sufficiently dinged up that we stashed him on the practice squad.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1085666]Thomas and Rambo have turned out to be bad draft picks as neither have contributed anything at all.[/quote]

Thomas may still turn out to be alright.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1085672]Yeah I have been reluctant to do so, but the man is good, and tough as well. In the second half he was getting hit left and right, gotta see if his body can keep up that kind of toughness getting smacked every week with that O Line in shambles.[/quote]

There was a time not too long ago when we had an OC here who dreamed of Peyton Manning as the QB with Foles learning under him for 2-3 years. But that was then, and this is now