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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1350139]No team is going to give up a good starting LT for a DE.[/quote]

This.


No way, no how. It would have to be a stud DE to make that happen.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1350112]Since DE’s don’t grow on trees, I would sign both, trade Payne next year for a high 1st, draft OL, MLB and another DT.[/quote]

ROFL. This ain't fucking Madden.

You wouldn't even net a 2nd rounder for Payne, especially with that contract he has. LOL@ remotely thinking of a first. Some of you guys live in fantasy land. Payne was never worth that contract to begin with, as I mentioned before.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1350186]ROFL. This ain't fucking Madden.

You wouldn't even net a 2nd rounder for Payne, especially with that contract he has. LOL@ remotely thinking of a first. Some of you guys live in fantasy land. Payne was never worth that contract to begin with, as I mentioned before.[/quote]

Let me guess you probably think Javon Hargrave is a better player than Payne. Hargrave was the most coveted FA this offseason and got a similar
Contract to Payne’s (6 mil less). Their stats are pretty similar and Payne is younger than Hargrave. I agree, no one is worth that much, it takes one idiot owner to set the market. And yes Indy gave a 1st rounder for Buckner and Payne is on par or better.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1350193]Let me guess you probably think Javon Hargrave is a better player than Payne. Hargrave was the most coveted FA this offseason and got a similar
Contract to Payne’s (6 mil less). Their stats are pretty similar and Payne is younger than Hargrave. I agree, no one is worth that much, it takes one idiot owner to set the market. And yes Indy gave a 1st rounder for Buckner and Payne is on par or better.[/quote]

I guess it's always possible that some moron would give up a 1st for Payne. I mean look what the Broncos gave up for Russ or what Browns gave up for Watson. Sure, you might get some dumbasses out there that would do it, but for the most part it's not going to happen. I agree with you that all it takes is one idiot owner to set the market.

That said, no, there isn't a comparison between Buckner and Payne. Payne has totaled 26 sacks in his first 5 years in the league. Buckner had a total of 38. Yeah, the two aren't close IMO. Payne had ONE fantastic year and the rest were pretty meh if that. Sure he's been a good run stopper but didn't generate enough pressure up the middle IMO. Buckner was also 1st team all-pro in 2020.

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Sell. Sell. Sell. Lets build draft capital. Gibson, Samuel and Fuller on their last years. Trade em all. Trade Sweat or Young. Certainly not for a third like the Falcons offered for Sweat. Trade em but do not get fleeced.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1350410]Sell. Sell. Sell. Lets build draft capital. Gibson, Samuel and Fuller on their last years. Trade em all. Trade Sweat or Young. Certainly not for a third like the Falcons offered for Sweat. Trade em but do not get fleeced.[/QUOTE]


If put everyone on the block. Why not?

This year is over and the more we lose the better


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1350418]If put everyone on the block. Why not?

This year is over and the more we lose the better


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Agree

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1350418]If put everyone on the block. Why not?

This year is over and the more we lose the better


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I would too, but Im not trading anyone for less than they are worth. That is a bad formula.

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[quote=punch it in;1350422]I would too, but Im not trading anyone for less than they are worth. That is a bad formula.[/quote]

+1000

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there has to be a buyer - who's giving us anything of value for gibson? I'd be surprised if we see much movement. Anyone we get rid of has to be replaced with (ideally) equivalent talent (and there's a cost to that). DL is a bit overbooked, so if there's someone they don't plan to sign long-term, maybe there's a trade there. outside of that, I don't really see it.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;1350430]there has to be a buyer - who's giving us anything of value for gibson? I'd be surprised if we see much movement. Anyone we get rid of has to be replaced with (ideally) equivalent talent (and there's a cost to that). DL is a bit overbooked, so if there's someone they don't plan to sign long-term, maybe there's a trade there. outside of that, I don't really see it.[/QUOTE]


Plenty of teams who could use depth at rb and he can return kicks. Id take a fourth for AG.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1350418]If put everyone on the block. Why not?

This year is over and the more we lose the better


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I would. The only people I would keep would be Dotson/Terry/Howell/Allen......the rest would be expendable.


If the next GM were smart, he'd do what the Cowboys did a decade ago. Draft OL in the first round three years in a row. It went on to solidify that line for over a decade, and make bums like Dak look good. The game is won on the front. Until a GM gets that, we'll never be worth a shit. If you're drafting RBs in the first round, you've already lost.

Trade deadline approaching...
 

Edit:

Wrong thread

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Chase most certainly should be on the trading block.
Not giving him a new deal or franchising him. He reminds me of Orakpo. Plays well against bums but against the best guys he is a no show.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1350437]I would. The only people I would keep would be Dotson/Terry/Howell/Allen......the rest would be expendable.


If the next GM were smart, he'd do what the Cowboys did a decade ago. Draft OL in the first round three years in a row. It went on to solidify that line for over a decade, and make bums like Dak look good. The game is won on the front. Until a GM gets that, we'll never be worth a shit. If you're drafting RBs in the first round, you've already lost.[/QUOTE]


I’d put Terry , Allen and Dotson in there too.

All 3 are good but not franchise type players. None of those 3 are All pro. Allen maybe on his best season.

KC needs a WR BAD too… I’d definitely call and offer one for a 2nd


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