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I have resisted posting anything on this issue until now. I am a VPI graduate from the class of '75.

My heart goes out to all who are suffering through this infamy in the Virginia Tech family. I am surprised that my feelings of 'family' for the Tech community are still this strong after entering the alumnus status so long ago. My prayers and support are with you. I am certain that my feelings are echoed just as strongly throughout our Tech family.

I am encouraged by the strength of spirit that I see broadcast over the media of our Tech students and their families, the acts of courage and heroism displayed by faculty and students facing chaos and peril, and the poise, discipline, and pride displayed under the most dire circumstances at all levels at this university.

I can't turn back time to change the events of Monday, I can't bring back our fallen, and I can't diminish the hurt. But I want you to know that I stand with you and will always keep alive the memory of those sacrificed in my heart.

UT PROSIM !!!

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[quote=Dogtag;298986]I have resisted posting anything on this issue until now. I am a VPI graduate from the class of '75.

My heart goes out to all who are suffering through this infamy in the Virginia Tech family. I am surprized that my feelings of 'family' for the Tech community are still this strong after entering the alumnus status so long ago. My prayers and support are with you. I am certain that I my feelings are echoed just as strongly throughout our Tech family.

I am encouraged by the strength of spirit that I see broadcast over the media of our Tech students and their families, the acts of courage and heroism displayed by faculty and students facing chaos and peril, and the poise, discipline, and pride displayed under the most dire circumstances at all levels at this university.

I can't turn back time and change the events of Monday, I can't bring back our fallen, I can't take away the hurt. But I want you to know that I stand with you and will always keep alive the memory of those sacrificed in my heart.

UT PROSIM !!![/quote]Nice post and we feel the same as you.

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[quote=Daseal;298974]Wow. The true epitome of hero!


First of all, let's put that whole constitutional right into perspective. This was written when you could be walking down the road and be attacked by a bear. When there were no police services, and most people needed a gun in order to eat. This is no longer the case. We don't need guns anymore. While I think the whole "gun in the home" thing is overblown. More kids die because of swimming pools than because of guns. However, there needs to be gun control.

When I was 17, a bunch of my friends and I got drunk. We decided hey, let's shoot those clay things you toss in the air (can't remember their names), so we drive to Wal-Mart, buy two guns, ammo, and a shooter for those clay things. I was 17, and within 45 minutes we had two firearms, a ton of ammunition, and we were drunk.

They need to lock down gun laws a bit, because most people don't need guns. Especially hand guns. They just aren't necessary. I can definitely see hunting rifles, etc. However, I'm not sneaking a hunting rifle anywhere.

There's nothing that can be done to stop people like the guy who shot up VT. It's just impossible, if they want to attack someone, guns are easy enough to find, and even easier to obtain with a little money. People like this, unfortunately, will always be very difficult to stop.[/quote]
Tell my buddy that he did not need a hand gun when he was attacked on the street with his wife and child. Luckly he had his gun (legaly) and with the sight of the gun the attackers took off because they only had a knife. Maybe they just wanted his wallet and maybe his wifes purse but maybe something worse could have happened. If you look up crimes commited by people who have carry permits it is very very low. When I was in high school back in the early 80's guys brought guns to school hanging in gun racks in their pick ups. I can even remember checking out shot gun my buddy got for his birth day with the principle of the school. It was no big deal back then and it was not even an issue. I myself do not own a gun and do belive that a better back ground checks might help but I still believe if a person wants to kill they will.

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I'm still undecided on this issue, but how come Britain has such a low crime rate with basically a law against all hand guns?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;298992]I'm still undecided on this issue, but how come Britain has such a low crime rate with basically a law against all hand guns?[/quote]
You know I was thinking yesterday as someone pointed out that Europe and other countries that ban guns have a lower gun murder rate. Well that would make sense but it seems we never see their murder rate as a whole only the selective gun stats. It could be lower all around but I'd like to see the numbers.

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I would too. If their stats are similar, I'd like to adopt a few of their changes, because it seems to work out well for them.

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[quote=firstdown;298991]Tell my buddy that he did not need a hand gun when he was attacked on the street with his wife and child. Luckly he had his gun (legaly) and with the sight of the gun the attackers took off because they only had a knife. Maybe they just wanted his wallet and maybe his wifes purse but maybe something worse could have happened. If you look up crimes commited by people who have carry permits it is very very low. When I was in high school back in the early 80's guys brought guns to school hanging in gun racks in their pick ups. I can even remember checking out shot gun my buddy got for his birth day with the principle of the school. It was no big deal back then and it was not even an issue. I myself do not own a gun and do belive that a better back ground checks might help but I still believe if a person wants to kill they will.[/quote]

I'm not for or against gun control but there are just as many instances where not having a gun would have saved a life. Domestic disputes, teenagers getting drunk and playing with daddy's gun (personal tragedy in my life, actually), road rage, etc.

Once again, I really don't care what the legislation is or will be regarding gun control but I don't see how one can argue the merits for or against by recounting personal events that affected that situation only. The argument works for both sides.

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Not sure if this was reported here but the NATS wore V Tech ball caps last night. I pulled mine out of the closet and have it on too.
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I have a rhetorical question, will owning a 9mm really prevent the government (which has just a few more and bigger weapons) from oppressing the peeps?

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[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;299004]Not sure if this was reported here but the NATS wore V Tech ball caps last night. I pulled mine out of the closet and have it on too.
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Awesome pic....didn't see it on the news.

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[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;299004]Not sure if this was reported here but the NATS wore V Tech ball caps last night. I pulled mine out of the closet and have it on too.
peace
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I read this morning that a fan actually wrote an email to Stan Katsen (the team president) suggesting the hat idea and they jumped on it ASAP.

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For all those who wish to debate the merits of gun control laws, please direct your comments [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-warpath-parking-lot/17878-gun-restrictions-and-your-rights.html"]here[/URL]. In light of the tragedy and the fact that some warpathers are members of the VT community, let's keep this forum devoted to well-wishes and similar thoughts.

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2841205]ESPN.com - MLB - Nats pay tribute to Va. Tech[/url]

Here's the article about the hats. I like the comments from Ryan Zimmerman, a UVA guy.

[QUOTE]Nationals third baseman Ryan Zimmerman is from Virginia Beach and went to college at Virginia Tech rival Virginia.

"It was special, especially for me, them kind of being the school we always wanted to beat, more than anybody else," Zimmerman said. "It kind of shows you how little sports mean. ... It makes you realize how lucky we have it and not to take any days for granted."
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And it didn't take the vulchers long to start trying to cash in. Check eBay. I won't dignify their sales by posting them but it's a shame.

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[quote=Sammy Baugh Fan;299024]And it didn't take the vulchers long to start trying to cash in. Check eBay. I won't dignify their sales by posting them but it's a shame.[/quote]

Not surprising. I remember shortly after 9/11 people were hawking 9/11 crap on ebay trying to cash in on the tragedy.

Some people have no shame and only see in $$ signs.

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This is unbelievable.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/]Gunman in massacre contacted NBC News - Massacre at Virginia Tech - MSNBC.com[/url]

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yep.crazy stuff

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Yeah, I saw that

I also saw that NASCAR will be sporting VT logos on their car.

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To quote Han Solo, the kid had obvious "delusions of grandeur." He compared himself to Jesus, said he did the act for "his children," referred to Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold as martyrs, etc. He sounded like a total idiot, "I gave you a billion million chances to stop this," "blood is on your hands that cannot be washed away," etc. The poses in front of the camera would have not been laughable had they not preceded a real world tragedy. Finally, that he planned this months in advance (with scripts to read before a camera) and sent the clips to NBC suggests that he thought he would achieve stardom.

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Yes the boy definately had a subscription.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;299348]Yeah, I saw that

I also saw that NASCAR will be sporting VT logos on their car.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I saw that too. Joe Gibbs driver Denny Hamlin [#11 FedEx Car] went to VMI but pays his respect to VT on his web site.

I wonder what it will look like? Small VT or bigger?

Go DENNY GO!!!

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;299349]To quote Han Solo, the kid had obvious "delusions of grandeur." He compared himself to Jesus, said he did the act for "his children," referred to Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold as martyrs, etc. He sounded like a total idiot, "I gave you a billion million chances to stop this," "blood is on your hands that cannot be washed away," etc. The poses in front of the camera would have not been laughable had they not preceded a real world tragedy. Finally, that he planned this months in advance (with scripts to read before a camera) and sent the clips to NBC suggests that he thought he would achieve stardom.[/quote]

Honestly, it pissed me off that they showed that shit to us. I wish it would have went down like this:

Brian Williams: "And we got a media packet from the killer, the cops checked it out, thought it was worthless, and threw it in the trash."

Much like the OJ book, why did THIS deserve to see the light of day? It's not exactly closure for the families.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;299429]Honestly, it pissed me off that they showed that shit to us. I wish it would have went down like this:

Brian Williams: "And we got a media packet from the killer, the cops checked it out, thought it was worthless, and threw it in the trash."

Much like the OJ book, why did THIS deserve to see the light of day? It's not exactly closure for the families.[/QUOTE]I agree, but at the same time I think morbid curiosity might get the best of me and I'll watch that garbage.

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I didn't know they had gotten anything from him when I was watching the news last night they started playing that garbage. Honestly, the only emotion I had was pure anger. You hear him spout off this bullshit like he was Kevin Spacey in "Seven". It was obviously a master plan for this selfish mother ****er to inflict as much pain as possible and he obviously thought he was a psycho genius.

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Yeah, I had already known about the video but I hadn't seen any clips or anything until I was watching Lost and a commercial for the news played a clip. I was instantly pissed and could barely watch the rest of the show.

He comes across as such a pathetic little bitch that I'm shocked he could go through with it. The sad thing is that other messed up kids might see that douche-bag and decide that they want to join him, just like he did when he saw crap about the Columbine killers.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;299441]Yeah, I had already known about the video but I hadn't seen any clips or anything until I was watching Lost and a commercial for the news played a clip. I was instantly pissed and could barely watch the rest of the show.

He comes across as such a pathetic little bitch that I'm shocked he could go through with it. The sad thing is that other messed up kids might see that douche-bag and decide that they want to join him, just like he did when he saw crap about the Columbine killers.[/quote]

Only if the Media would stop hyping stuff up and putting out too much information. That is one thing that aggravtes the crap out of me. Just like during 9/11 when the media was trying to find out where the President was so that they could tell everybody. All I could think was "You dumbasses, terrorists watch the news too, they don't need to know where in the hell the President is!"

CNN kills me too "Our troops are located somewhere in the vicinity of Baghdad right around Kilometer marker 10 on a highway next to the Tigris river." Dipshits, we don't want them to know we are here yet!