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Monkeydad 09-05-2007 02:30 PM

Re: Redskins vs. Dolphins predictions
 
[quote=Burger;347210]Dolphins 24 Skins 6

Campbell will be confused by the speedy Dolphins Defence. The leagues worst defence will be back in Dc again and Ronnie Brown will run for at least 130 yards.[/quote]




You think the Dolphins offense can score 24 against ANYONE, let alone a D as good as ours.


Thanks for the laugh.

MTPhan 09-05-2007 02:46 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;347440]I think that's oversimplifying the art of run-defense.

The line certainly plays a huge role in stymying offensive linemen and holding firm at the line of scrimmage, but the LBs play just as big a role. Mainly, the middle LB on both teams, Zach Thomas and London Fletcher, will play a big role in aligning the defensive line before the snap. And then the quickness of the LB corps and their abilities to avoid blockers as they run to the ball plays into it.

I'd modify your stance to say it's RB vs front 7. Stalemate for both teams. But the Redskin offensive line is much more talented - it's just a matter of whether they can come together for this game. If Kendall and Samuels get on the same page, it's advantage Redskins.

But in addition, you have to factor the secondary vs the WRs in the run defense equation. The Dolphins have no scary WRs, unless Ginn becomes the next Randy Moss. You're going to see LaRon Landry in the box a whole lot on Sunday - because I don't think Trent Green is scaring anybody. If Miami tries to load the box against Jason Campbell, I PROMISE you he will make you pay.

Luckily for Miami, they have Jason Taylor, and can probably rush Campbell pretty well with just the front 4.

I see a close game, but the advantage goes to the Skins.[/QUOTE]

Oversimplified yes but if for instance your center can not handle Traylor by himself then the guard has to help. (I know Traylor is a hundred years old) This means you are pulling your other guard and that brings opens up a line backer. So you bring your safeties up for run support opening up a play action pass and isolating your CBs. The skins CBs are good so I would bring the play-action. I know there is a lot more to the situation but again run defense BEGINS at the line and if were asked the question are the Dolphins D-line good enough to stop the run. I would say absolutely. I don’t know how good your D-line is. Is it good enough to hold Brown below 4 YPC?
Prediction
Dolphins 12
Redskins 9

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 03:04 PM

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[quote=MTPhan;347490]Is it good enough to hold Brown below 4 YPC?
Prediction
Dolphins 12
Redskins 9[/quote]

If they're not, our LBs are. If anything the Skins have added this year it's a LOT of speed in the backfield. All our DTs have to do is slow him up.

Smooter 09-05-2007 06:49 PM

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Man I hope were not flooded by trolls like this every week. :argue:

12thMan 09-05-2007 06:50 PM

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[quote=Smooter;347609]Man I hope were not flooded by trolls like this every week. :argue:[/quote]

It'll happen some during Dallas week for sure. This is fun, dontcha think?

Smooter 09-05-2007 07:06 PM

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[QUOTE=12thMan;347612]It'll happen some during Dallas week for sure. This is fun, dontcha think?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, No kidding. Its humorous to a point but I could never myself go on another teams forum and ramble on. I don't care if they're being civil or not, this isn't the place for fins fans.

SmootSmack 09-05-2007 07:13 PM

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[QUOTE=Smooter;347622]Yeah, No kidding. Its humorous to a point but I could never myself go on another teams forum and ramble on. I don't care if they're being civil or not, this isn't the place for fins fans.[/QUOTE]

I think when fans from other teams come on with intelligent thoughts then it really adds to the site.

Smooter 09-05-2007 07:15 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;347628]I think when fans from other teams come on with intelligent thoughts then it really adds to the site.[/QUOTE]

True, but for every realistic fan perspective theres at least 5 ignorant ones.

SmootSmack 09-05-2007 07:17 PM

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[QUOTE=Smooter;347629]True, but for every realistic fan perspective theres at least 5 ignorant ones.[/QUOTE]

Well the reality is that you can say the same for the "regulars" on this site. We have a lot of great perspectives, but at the same time we have our fair share of ignorance.

Smooter 09-05-2007 07:23 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;347631]Well the reality is that you can say the same for the "regulars" on this site. We have a lot of great perspectives, but at the same time we have our fair share of ignorance.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, why would we want to add to it?

NicknacK89 09-05-2007 07:39 PM

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number 1) Ronnie Brown is garbage i dont know why i bothered capitalizing his name
number 2) Does anyone know what side Jason Taylor (definatly capitalizing his name) is gonna be rushing from? either against jansen or samuels

holcknowsbest 09-05-2007 07:43 PM

Re: Redskins vs. Dolphins predictions
 
[quote=MTPhan;347490]Oversimplified yes but if for instance your center can not handle Traylor by himself then the guard has to help. (I know Traylor is a hundred years old) This means you are pulling your other guard and that brings opens up a line backer. So you bring your safeties up for run support opening up a play action pass and isolating your CBs. The skins CBs are good so I would bring the play-action. I know there is a lot more to the situation but again run defense BEGINS at the line and if were asked the question are the Dolphins D-line good enough to stop the run. I would say absolutely. I don’t know how good your D-line is. Is it good enough to hold Brown below 4 YPC?
Prediction
Dolphins 12
Redskins 9[/quote]

wait a minute, our dline may not be the dolphins dline but your oline is not on the same planet as our oline.....so yes we can hold ronnie brown to 4 yards because we can out play your oline. besides taylor our dlines are very comparable. you better hope joey porter is worth every penny he signed for. your secondary is extremely suspect, you dont even go one deep at corner so expect us to spread it out to run and pass...plus i mean we posted numbers on the jags last year whose dline is better than yours. we had no problem with them and santana moss will have a huge day. i love me some will allen

robbyweiss 09-05-2007 08:01 PM

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20 Skins
10 Doll-faces

WillH 09-05-2007 08:05 PM

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Skins WIN 27-13

The Skins will have good field position almost all game due to excellent play from special teams. The Offense will come out strong and JC will end the first drive with a TD Pass.

Our D will shut the fins down pretty much completely for the first quarter, and by the 2nd quarter we'll be up 14-3, after CP runs one in on a 20+ yd TD run.

Then in the second and 3rd we'll sputter a bit, but due to the aforementioned good field position Suisham will get into range for a couple 40+ yd field goals. During this time the fins will pick it up on offense a bit scoring a TD and another field goal, and we'll go into the 4th up 20-13.

Late in the game the D will create a crucial TO, leading to a long game ending TD drive by Campbell, with the D holding on for the win with the Final score 27-13.

skinsfan_nn 09-05-2007 08:26 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;347628]I think when fans from other teams come on with intelligent thoughts then it really adds to the site.[/quote]

Hum......Yea that would be nice but when does an oppossing team EVER have intelligent thoughts....? NEVER! Bunch of DUMMIES!

They almost always THINK they are gonna win......LOL

NOT THIS YEAR BABY! :)


SKINS= 17
GAYFINS=13 GAMEOVER!

hooskins 09-05-2007 08:38 PM

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[quote=Smooter;347634]Exactly, why would we want to add to it?[/quote]

You would. You just agreed to the fact that regardless of what kinda of fan you are, there are always a good amount of dumb homer fans. So logically the only thing that we would gain on this site from other fans would be another perspective, which is welcomed in my opinion.

Smooter 09-05-2007 09:08 PM

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[QUOTE=hooskins;347660]You would. You just agreed to the fact that regardless of what kinda of fan you are, there are always a good amount of dumb homer fans. So logically the only thing that we would gain on this site from other fans would be another perspective, which is welcomed in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Ok, sorry i thought I was on a Redskins forum.

skinsfan_nn 09-05-2007 09:46 PM

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[quote=Smooter;347664]Ok, sorry i thought I was on a Redskins forum.[/quote]

You are SMOOTER! F*ck the outsiders! Only REDSKINS view points matter anyway! LOL

FinNasty 09-05-2007 10:33 PM

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[QUOTE=NicknacK89;347643]number 1) Ronnie Brown is garbage i dont know why i bothered capitalizing his name[/quote]

Um... WHAT?!? Ronnie Brown isnt to that elite level yet... but he is on his way. Behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league, he has averaged 4.3 ypc. He has barely even been used in the 2 years he has been in the league... but produces every time he touches the ball. Not to mention, he is one of the best blocking RBs in the league, and has fantastic hands... better than a lot of WRs. He definatly has the best hands on our team...

[QUOTE=NicknacK89;347643]number 2) Does anyone know what side Jason Taylor (definatly capitalizing his name) is gonna be rushing from? either against jansen or samuels[/QUOTE]

He comes from all over. Technically, he is the ROLB/RDE that will come from your weak side (offense's left blind side). However, we move him all over the place. Bring him off the right edge with his hand on the ground, off the left edge while standing, blitz right up the middle, drop him into coverage... he does it all. He plays the "Jack" position... which is called that because it is basically the position of a jack of all trades.

railcon56 09-06-2007 02:44 AM

Re: Redskins vs. Dolphins predictions
 
Redskins 31 Phins 9

MTPhan 09-06-2007 09:12 AM

Re: Redskins vs. Dolphins predictions
 
[QUOTE=holcknowsbest;347644]wait a minute, our dline may not be the dolphins dline but your oline is not on the same planet as our oline.....so yes we can hold ronnie brown to 4 yards because we can out play your oline. besides taylor our dlines are very comparable. you better hope joey porter is worth every penny he signed for. your secondary is extremely suspect, you dont even go one deep at corner so expect us to spread it out to run and pass...plus i mean we posted numbers on the jags last year whose dline is better than yours. we had no problem with them and santana moss will have a huge day. i love me some will allen[/QUOTE]

We shall see this weekend. Good luck with your season (except this week) and especially against the other AFC East teams.

gibbsisgod 09-06-2007 09:27 AM

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[quote=FinNasty;347687]Um... WHAT?!? Ronnie Brown isnt to that elite level yet... but he is on his way. Behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league, he has averaged 4.3 ypc. He has barely even been used in the 2 years he has been in the league... but produces every time he touches the ball. Not to mention, he is one of the best blocking RBs in the league, and has fantastic hands... better than a lot of WRs. [B]He definatly has the best hands on our team[/B]....[/quote]What is that saying about your WR corp? If you cant be balanced its not gonna matter how many YPC RB averaged last year.

Cowell 09-06-2007 09:30 AM

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Not to mention the Dolphins didn't do anything to help that core this year. Didn't they lose Randy McMicheal and Wes Welker. I know Wes Welker isn't even that good, but the Phins need all they can get there.

gibbsisgod 09-06-2007 09:31 AM

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[quote=Cowell;347758]Not to mention the Dolphins didn't do anything to help that core this year. Didn't they lose Randy McMicheal and Wes Welker. I know Wes Welker isn't even that good, but the Phins need all they can get there.[/quote]Oh, didn't you hear? They got Ginn JR. He is the second coming of christ! lol

Cowell 09-06-2007 09:38 AM

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That guy is going to get murdered. He shouldn't have been a first round pick. The would have been better off going with someone like Dwayne Jarret or Dwayne Bowe. Yet they pick a guy who has only speed in his arsenal. I know I might get a Santana Moss comparison, but this guy is too small and is what you would call a "route running god". Wasted pick, this guy could wait until the 4th round IMO.

dmek25 09-06-2007 10:41 AM

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[quote=gibbsisgod;347760]Oh, didn't you hear? They got Ginn JR. He is the second coming of christ! lol[/quote]
i think they are looking at him, and hoping they have the second coming of Santana Moss. and good morning giggity

gibbsisgod 09-06-2007 10:55 AM

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And GM to you D! Hows it going?

davy 09-06-2007 11:22 AM

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Skins 14-13 Fish

GTripp0012 09-06-2007 12:09 PM

Re: Redskins vs. Dolphins predictions
 
The reason picking games is so hard is that even if you make the smart logical selection (i.e. the best team), you still have a good chance of being wrong.

Over the course of the season, if I say the Skins are going to go 9-7, I may miss some games here and there (they might beat GB and lose to the Cards for all I know), but at least things have a chance to even out for me, and allow my prediction to be accurate anyway. In a single game, if one team fumbles one too many times, or drops one too many interceptions, they could lose a very winnable game. Now, later that season, a team could pick up a win in similar style, a dropped INT by the opponent, or by recoving a ball the QB was stripped of.

But thats why it's pointless to debate the matchups, IMO. Theres been some great points on both sides of things that could determine the outcome of this game, but even the most fundamental of knowledges comes down to a wild guess.

I'll hold on to my Skins pick in this one, but I'd never get on anyone for taking the Dolphins. Remember, you can always defend your pick by saying "I think they will get lucky!" Then no one can argue with you ;)

MonkFan4Life 09-06-2007 01:31 PM

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41-9 Washington, maybe 12 but the Dolphins will not score one touchdown. All field goals, all day. The media and press will say that it was a fluke and that Washington took advantage of a Dolphins team that isn't that good, they have a new coach blah blah blah.

BleedBurgundy 09-06-2007 03:17 PM

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Did anyone hear anything recently regarding Portis' knee? I've got a buddy asking whether or not to start him in fantasy this week...

TheMalcolmConnection 09-06-2007 03:17 PM

Re: Redskins vs. Dolphins predictions
 
Honestly, unless he's in JUST for the red zone, I wouldn't start him. His workload is going to be cut waaaaay down.

DirteePosse 09-06-2007 03:24 PM

Re: Redskins vs. Dolphins predictions
 
A Mont in the backfield all night. QB's and RB's watch out!!

Monkeydad 09-06-2007 03:35 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;347951]Did anyone hear anything recently regarding Portis' knee? I've got a buddy asking whether or not to start him in fantasy this week...[/quote]

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/19587-ladell-betts.html#post347783[/URL]

Big Dave 09-06-2007 06:36 PM

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There sure is a lot of overconfidence here on the upcoming Dolphins game. The Bears overlooked us last year and we embarrassed them ... with Harrington as our quarterback.

[IMG]http://phinfever.com/e107_images/newspost_images/2007_csonka_01.jpg[/IMG][URL="http://phinfever.com/e107_images/newspost_images/2007_csonka_01.jpg"][/URL]

Smooter 09-06-2007 07:58 PM

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[QUOTE=Big Dave;348017]There sure is a lot of overconfidence here on the upcoming Dolphins game. The Bears overlooked us last year and we embarrassed them ... with Harrington as our quarterback.

[IMG]http://phinfever.com/e107_images/newspost_images/2007_csonka_01.jpg[/IMG][URL="http://phinfever.com/e107_images/newspost_images/2007_csonka_01.jpg"][/URL][/QUOTE]

I guess if you dont like it you can kick rocks, cuz its gonna be a bloodbath. Redskins 27 Dolphins 13

[IMG]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h97/z28camaro400/dolphin.jpg[/IMG]

BleedBurgundy 09-06-2007 08:15 PM

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[QUOTE=Smooter;348040]I guess if you dont like it you can kick rocks, cuz its gonna be a bloodbath. Redskins 27 Dolphins 13

[IMG]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h97/z28camaro400/dolphin.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Can't wait to see what kind of pics you have lined up for our games against the Eagles and Cowboys. :tongue Too bad no teams use baby seals for their mascots.

Smooter 09-06-2007 08:17 PM

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[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy;348044]Can't wait to see what kind of pics you have lined up for our games against the Eagles and Cowboys. :tongue Too bad no teams use baby seals for their mascots.[/QUOTE]
lmao, I'll see what I can come up with when the time comes.

44Dive 09-06-2007 10:42 PM

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I would really like to state my opinion, but there are just so many experts on here...there just isn't enough room for people with contrary opinions. Am I too sensitive or am I actually not in a blog where every Redskin Fan can express his opinion without ridicule or scorn. You know you guys like Smoot are soo good...you should make a living at it. I'll try to find a blog where maybe my opinion won't be so distorted or twisted then closed before I have a chance to defend myself. Sorry I wasn't a memeber of the Gibbs coaching staff like I am sure you are for being so in the know.
Redskins 13 Dolphins 6

44Dive 09-06-2007 10:44 PM

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I should have known this wasn't a gentleman's blog when you are labeled camp scrub by someone who doesn't know you or football as a matter of fact.


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