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If Blache stays he should get bumped up to Assoc. Head Coach-Defense, then sure give Jerry Gray the D Coordinator job.

Danny Smith could get some consideration for defensive coordinator as well. I know GW really likes him

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My hopes go with GW being named as the successor. While there are several qualified HCs out there without jobs, my concern would be someone outside the organization wanting to bring in their own team of coaches. I think it's extremely important to this team to maintain the philosophies of offense and defense that have been established over the last two years and build a sense of continuity and stability within the organization.

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I just read on extremeskins that GW did not have that clause in his contract promising 1 mil if he did not succeed Gibbs. Is that true? If so, how did this rumor start?

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It's rumored to be a rumor about the 1 MIll rumor. lol. Funny how when it first came out everone talked about it as if it was solid info. Also at the time when asked I don't remember GW saying it was not true. He was his typical self...laugh and change the topic. When something is not true he is pretty quick to shut it down. I wonder if there was a time limit on the 1 Mill and we are past that or were there stipulations that were not met in order for him to receive the 1 Mill.
Another thing I thought about all day was how it seemed just a couple of months ago that rumor was Snyder had met with Cowher and had an agreement already in place at the end of the season. However I was told that Snyder answered a reporter who asked that question saying He has not met with Cowher since six yrs ago when they played handball or racket ball together.

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the question now is, does Snyder remain the patient owner he's been when Gibbs was around, or revert to his old ways of trying to buy a championship?

personally, I feel Snyder has changed for the better since Gibbs has been here and will remain that way.

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The last thing this team needs to go through, especially after the loss of a teammate, is an overhaul of the coaching staff.

LaVar said it best in his 5th season with the redskins, "In five years, I've had five defensive coordinators, all preaching different schemes." If we bring in anyone else, other than someone who is already in the system, how do we expect to get back to the playoffs?

Here is my thought, Daniel Snyder brought Joe Gibbs back to help rebuild the Washington Redskins (not win a Super Bowl), and Joe did that. We went to 2 playoff appearances in four years under Coach Gibbs. We brought a higher level of playing back to Washington, great personnel has been brought into Redskins park. I think that Joe Gibb's job doesn't end here, but it continues with Daniel Snyder, throughout the search for the next head coach. Whether or not Joe Gibbs stays on in some capacity as an adviser or some other position, shouldn't be the concern of the team.

Took keep the solid outlook of our team, going outside of our current staff, would be unwise. This coaching staff does not need a change or a fresh face to come in and lead this team.

If for some reason the Redskins do get a head coach from the outside, let's all pray that the new head coach and Greg Williams can work something out so that Greg will stay. (similar to the Pittsburgh Steeler's head coach Mike Tomlin and Dick Lebeau)

Let's not kid ourselves, if Greg Williams is not promoted to Head Coach, he will leave, and the continued unprofessional-ism that our owner presents himself amongst the coaching elite (the NFL as a coaching whole) will only further drive this franchise into a deeper whole in years to come.

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I hope we keep it in house...
Head Coach Gregg Williams.

I'm afraid that Snyder will try to get some yahoo from elsewhere...

Please Joe tell him Gregg!!!

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[quote=dcweldon;404993]The last thing this team needs to go through, especially after the loss of a teammate, is an overhaul of the coaching staff.

LaVar said it best in his 5th season with the redskins, "In five years, I've had five defensive coordinators, all preaching different schemes." If we bring in anyone else, other than someone who is already in the system, how do we expect to get back to the playoffs?

Here is my thought, Daniel Snyder brought Joe Gibbs back to help rebuild the Washington Redskins (not win a Super Bowl), and Joe did that. We went to 2 playoff appearances in four years under Coach Gibbs. We brought a higher level of playing back to Washington, great personnel has been brought into Redskins park. I think that Joe Gibb's job doesn't end here, but it continues with Daniel Snyder, throughout the search for the next head coach. Whether or not Joe Gibbs stays on in some capacity as an adviser or some other position, shouldn't be the concern of the team.

Took keep the solid outlook of our team, going outside of our current staff, would be unwise. This coaching staff does not need a change or a fresh face to come in and lead this team.

If for some reason the Redskins do get a head coach from the outside, let's all pray that the new head coach and Greg Williams can work something out so that Greg will stay. (similar to the Pittsburgh Steeler's head coach Mike Tomlin and Dick Lebeau)

Let's not kid ourselves, if Greg Williams is not promoted to Head Coach, he will leave, and the continued unprofessional-ism that our owner presents himself amongst the coaching elite (the NFL as a coaching whole) will only further drive this franchise into a deeper whole in years to come.[/quote]
You really think a owner hired a guy for 5 years just to come in and rebuild a team and not to try and win a SB? If that is true then its a big insult to Gibbs.

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[quote=firstdown;405059]You really think a owner hired a guy for 5 years just to come in and rebuild a team and not to try and win a SB? If that is true then its a big insult to Gibbs.[/quote]

Yeah that just doesn't make much sense.

He came back for several reasons, all which are related. He came back to win... and the ultimate goal of winning is of course the Super Bowl, bring stability back to the franchise, and to leave them better off than when he got here.

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[QUOTE=Luxorreb;404995]I hope we keep it in house...
Head Coach Gregg Williams.

I'm afraid that Snyder will try to get some yahoo from elsewhere...

[b]Please Joe tell him Gregg!!![/b][/QUOTE]

I'm all for giving Greg a shot I guess, but he's a career 17-31 head coach, and never had a +.500 team. Just because he was a head coach for 3 years doesn't make him the best choice. (fyi- Saunders is a career 17-22 head coach)

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As far as I'm concerned, you throw previous records out the window. If you haven't noticed, there are Joe Gibbs and Wade Phillips all over in the NFL. Just because someone doesn't succeed as a head coach, doesn't mean they won't be a good one.

Basically, I'd just like to see Gregg get the job, Saunders to call the plays and Blache to be defensive coordinator. Aside from the intangibles that Gibbs had, this would be about the same team as last year and at least keep team morale high and rebuilding low.

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It's not likely, but anyone considering that the possibility that maybe Williams doesn't want it? That he's seen life as a head coach and would rather be the 2nd in command? That he's turned down interviews in the past not so much because he wanted to stay a Redskin, but because he prefers the relative nuts and bolts of being the COO of one unit, rather than the CEO of many.

Look, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it if he wants it. All I'm saying is maybe he's not as interested in it as we all would like to believe.

Just saying, some people are better suited to be Scottie Pippen than Michael Jordan.

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That's fine with me, I just want him to address that to the players.

I'm VERY concerned with team morale if we don't give Williams a fair shake in this process.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;405130]As far as I'm concerned, you throw previous records out the window. If you haven't noticed, there are Joe Gibbs and Wade Phillips all over in the NFL. Just because someone doesn't succeed as a head coach, doesn't mean they won't be a good one.

Basically, I'd just like to see Gregg get the job, Saunders to call the plays and Blache to be defensive coordinator. Aside from the intangibles that Gibbs had, this would be about the same team as last year and at least keep team morale high and rebuilding low.[/QUOTE]

Well, I want to keep it internal too, for consistancy, but we are all assuming that Gregg can turn us into a super bowl bound team, and that's far from a fact. So far, GW has shown us he is a good DC only, not a good head coach. You can throw out the numbers if you want, but he was not successful as a HC. The comparison of Phillips and GW is not a good one cause Phillips was actually successful in his previous tenures. Including going 29-19 with those same Bills in 3 seasons (98-00). He also had a winning record with the Broncos back in 93, and in 5 full seasons (not including this year), he had only 1 sub .500 season (7-9 in 94). Phillips proved himself to be a success as a HC at the NFL level.

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You also have to look at the personnel surrounding each coach. We have a good team in place and as far as I'm concerned, let Williams be the figure-head (much like it seems Phillips is in Dallas) and let Saunders do his thing and Williams and Blache do their thing on defense.

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There's no harm in giving Gregg Williams a one year free trial. It really would be a free trial because if his team performs unsatisfactorily, you could cut ties with him and his staff after one season, and end up right back where we are right now. No big continuity issues necessary.

If however, they go out of house to hire, they better as hell hit on it, as there's no looking back after that.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;405199]There's no harm in giving Gregg Williams a one year free trial. It really would be a free trial because if his team performs unsatisfactorily, you could cut ties with him and his staff after one season, and end up right back where we are right now. No big continuity issues necessary.

If however, they go out of house to hire, they better as hell hit on it, as there's no looking back after that.[/QUOTE]

Great post. No harm no foul.

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[quote=SmootSmack;405135]It's not likely, but anyone considering that the possibility that maybe Williams doesn't want it? That he's seen life as a head coach and would rather be the 2nd in command? That he's turned down interviews in the past not so much because he wanted to stay a Redskin, but because he prefers the relative nuts and bolts of being the COO of one unit, rather than the CEO of many.

Look, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it if he wants it. All I'm saying is maybe he's not as interested in it as we all would like to believe.

Just saying, some people are better suited to be Scottie Pippen than Michael Jordan.[/quote]Yeah, but Williams is always trying to involve himself in matters that are beyond his job title anyway. He pretty much became Gibbs' clock management guy in the second half of the season.

From a strategic X's and O's point of view, there is really no better candidate out there than Williams. Problem is that X's and O's are such a miniscule fraction of wins and losses that you almost have to choose your coach entirely on more humanly factors.

The single most important quality for a head coach is that the players respect him and enjoy playing for him. All records aside, if your players like you, you have a good chance of achieving coaching success.

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Can we compile of list of the "other" votes? :)

Who's on it, Cam Cameron? Tom Cruise? Lavar Arrington? Patrick "Starfish" Ramsey?

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;405135]It's not likely, but anyone considering that the possibility that maybe Williams doesn't want it? That he's seen life as a head coach and would rather be the 2nd in command? That he's turned down interviews in the past not so much because he wanted to stay a Redskin, but because he prefers the relative nuts and bolts of being the COO of one unit, rather than the CEO of many.

Look, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it if he wants it. All I'm saying is maybe he's not as interested in it as we all would like to believe.

Just saying, some people are better suited to be Scottie Pippen than Michael Jordan.[/QUOTE]

I wondered this exact same thing! He has always seemed to shy away from the media since he's been here...but I'm sure if it was offered to him, he'd take take it, seeing the relationships he's built with these players here. What matters most though is how he and Dan get along...and I haven't heard too many heart-felt stories there.

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[quote=GTripp0012;405199]There's no harm in giving Gregg Williams a one year free trial. It really would be a free trial because if his team performs unsatisfactorily, you could cut ties with him and his staff after one season, and end up right back where we are right now. No big continuity issues necessary.

If however, they go out of house to hire, they better as hell hit on it, as there's no looking back after that.[/quote]

Right, and if he bombs Bill Cowher will be available next year. If Snyder wants to go that way of course.

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[quote=SmootSmack;405135]It's not likely, but anyone considering that the possibility that maybe Williams doesn't want it? That he's seen life as a head coach and would rather be the 2nd in command? That he's turned down interviews in the past not so much because he wanted to stay a Redskin, but because he prefers the relative nuts and bolts of being the COO of one unit, rather than the CEO of many.

Look, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it if he wants it. All I'm saying is maybe he's not as interested in it as we all would like to believe.

Just saying, some people are better suited to be Scottie Pippen than Michael Jordan.[/quote]

From someone who knows what ego is all about ;) I'd say it's pretty doubtful that he would turn it down. GW is a pretty driven guy, I think he would be eager to prove that his stint in Buffalo was a fluke.

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It will be a mistake if Williams is not the coach.

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I'll tell you who it should be...

Coach Janky Spanky!

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i really dont understand the hype around GW some people are just made to be coordinators, hes one of them

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Keep Greg I'd hate to see him go somewhere else and shine, remeber Belichek had head coaching stints then was an assistant then the head coach of New England I see Greg as that type of coach...

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[quote=Redskins247;405215]I wondered this exact same thing! He has always seemed to shy away from the media since he's been here...but I'm sure if it was offered to him, he'd take take it, seeing the relationships he's built with these players here. What matters most though is how he and Dan get along...and I haven't heard too many heart-felt stories there.[/quote]

I don't agree that he's shyed from the media, actually he seems to do plenty of interviews.

But your last point is a good one. Gibbs alluded to that too the other day, he said the owner has to be "comfortable" with the coach. That's one of the main reasons I wonder if he'll even really consider Grilliams.

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The lack of statements from Snyder about how he and GW are "on the same page", "understand each other", etc. In fact, the almost complete non-discussion of GW's qualifications is the only thing that causes me pause in asserting that GW will be the next coach.

With that said, I think GW is the next coach.

But I ain't betting the house on it - Maybe dinner at McD's.

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[quote=charlielyons;405453]i really dont understand the hype around GW some people are just made to be coordinators, hes one of them[/quote]

Based on what? His Drew Bledsoe-led Bills team? :D

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Snyder and Williams aren't exactly bunk buddies, but they've apparently grown to a mutual respect of each other. But that was precipitated primarily by Gibbs. Without Gibbs as a daily buffer (sigh...I miss him already), it will be interesting to see how the relationship plays out.

Still, all indications are he's in the lead. But...there could be a surprise in the works. Someone you'd never expect.

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hopefully it will be gw or al , and who ever it is hopefully will stay away from the other and let them do there job.syder should look at the two of them and figure out which one would be better with time mangament and thouse tuff decsions.but if syder does want some fresh blood in here im acutly partial to jiiim mora jr who was a good coach for the falcons ,and did a good job with seatles secondary this year. how ever i would like to reienterate that id prefer that we keep as much the same as possable.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;405534]Snyder and Williams aren't exactly bunk buddies, but they've apparently grown to a mutual respect of each other. But that was precipitated primarily by Gibbs. Without Gibbs as a daily buffer (sigh...I miss him already), it will be interesting to see how the relationship plays out.

Still, all indications are he's in the lead. But...there could be a surprise in the works. Someone you'd never expect.[/QUOTE]

Adam Shefter (NFL network) reported that Russ Grimm might be in the mix, but GW is at the top. No Cowher (thank god) he wants another year off. Adam is usually 99% right.

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[QUOTE=halodoc;405537]hopefully it will be gw or al , and who ever it is hopefully will stay away from the other and let them do there job.syder should look at the two of them and figure out which one would be better with time mangament and thouse tuff decsions.but if syder does want some fresh blood in here im acutly partial to jiiim mora jr who was a good coach for the falcons ,and did a good job with seatles secondary this year. how ever i would like to reienterate that id prefer that we keep as much the same as possable.[/QUOTE]

Rumors are pretty heavy that Holmgren is going to step down at the end of this season, and Jim Mora Jr. is expected to be named head coach of the Seahawks.

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[quote=charlielyons;405453]i really dont understand the hype around GW some people are just made to be coordinators, hes one of them[/quote]

I don't understand how you can say that GW was made to be a coordinator for sure.

Just listen to any interview and tell me if you think that GW is a leader. Tell me if you think GW is organized. Also, by the way the players, both offensively and defensively have issued their support in having him our next HC. This shows he has respect.

So we have a born leader, organized, massive will to succeed, and respect from his players. Sounds like a good candidate to me.

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I think it will probably be Gregg Williams and he's going to bring in Jim Schwartz to be his Assistant Head Coach-Defense

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[quote=redsk1;405547]I don't understand how you can say that GW was made to be a coordinator for sure.

Just listen to any interview and tell me if you think that GW is a leader. Tell me if you think GW is organized. Also, by the way the players, both offensively and defensively have issued their support in having him our next HC. This shows he has respect.

So we have a born leader, organized, massive will to succeed, and respect from his players. Sounds like a good candidate to me.[/quote]

Just to add, I don't think a 3 year stint in Buffalo is enough to judge whether GW is cut out for HC or not.

He's done enough to deserve a second chance, if he blows the second chance fine, he's just a coordinator.

Unless your name is Norv Turner I guess. ;)

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By the way, interesting article from Wilbon. He doesn't think the Redskins will shy away from the high profile coaching pick.

[url=http://washingtonpost.com]washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines[/url]

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;405534]Snyder and Williams aren't exactly bunk buddies, but they've apparently grown to a mutual respect of each other. But that was precipitated primarily by Gibbs. Without Gibbs as a daily buffer (sigh...I miss him already), it will be interesting to see how the relationship plays out.

Still, all indications are he's in the lead. But...there could be a surprise in the works. Someone you'd never expect.[/QUOTE]

Earnest Byner! You heard it hear first!

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[quote=SmootSmack;405554]I think it will probably be Gregg Williams and he's going to bring in Jim Schwartz to be his Assistant Head Coach-Defense[/quote]

Now that's a unique prediction that sounds good!

From what P. King posted about candidates (I respect King's work, btw, though he has earned a bad rep here) this week, Schwartz sounds like the kind of guy we need; background in economics & understands the value aspect of players w/the cap.

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[quote=Redskins_P;405569]Earnest Byner! You heard it hear first![/quote]

I love Byner. that would be a huge surprise obviously if he got the job. Props for puttin it out there.