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I'm most impressed with Mason again. This kid may force the team to trade one of our backs. Portis knows how to block, Ladell runs down hill, Rock is a lock on special teams.

I'm not a big Portis fan but he does protect the quaterback and unfortunately I don't think this is a strength of Ladell's. I think Mason is our best pure runner but there are the other intangibles that make him a liability at this point.

I would like to see Mason run with the first team offense against a first string defense and then let's see how he looks.

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[QUOTE=ChillWill;465011] I think Mason is our best pure runner but there are the other intangibles that make him a liability at this point.

I would like to see Mason run with the first team offense against a first string defense and then let's see how he looks.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree, this guy is a pure runner. I would love to see what he can do with the #1 offense.

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If we keep 6 receivers, make that receiver Usain Bolt!!!!

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[QUOTE=Warren85Ellard;465015]If we keep 6 receivers, make that receiver Usain Bolt!!!![/QUOTE]

Word. Never seen a 100 meter won like that.

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[QUOTE=Warren85Ellard;465015]If we keep 6 receivers, make that receiver Usain Bolt!!!![/QUOTE]

Darrell Green would whoop his ass! :) Actually Bolt looks like he's not even trying, he's scary.

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OK- I am now officially a Colt Brennan fan.

He's a productive college player with something to prove. Colt looked both calm an excited in the 2min offense.

The question is: at that moment last night, given all the players on both teams remain the same ("scrubs") - which of the 4 skins qb's do you think would have marched down the field and scored the winning TD? I say no to JC, TC and Devine. I was excited with Colt entering the game - I would have been scared if it had been anyone else (yes JC included).

I want to see Colt have a series or two with the starters.

If someone in AA ball was hitting .425 with 15 homers - people would be screaming to call the kid up, just to see what he could do. I don't see the problem in wanting our 3rd stringer to line-up with the starters once or twice to see what happens. He's doing everything right. Give him a shot and let him fail to shut people like me up - or let him succeed and start grooming him as your next franchise QB.

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Hmmm... Identity Theft hits home...

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Sorry - Great name, just the first thing that came to mind. I'll make sure my avatar is always different and I never become a VIP member...

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[quote=KokoMike;464995]I am going to take a hard line position, not because I think Colt Brennan should start. He need some time.

Jason Campbell's delivery is soooooo slow. Sure he can hit wide open receivers. Last year, he telegraphed everything. He is doing it again. I am not a Campbell hater, but I have to be honest. If he can't get better with that delivery thing, we should trade him before his contract is way off the charts.[/quote]

Put down the crack pipe.

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[quote=KokoMike;464999]Sure Campbell can hit wide open receivers. I'll say it again.

Besides this slow delivery thing, there is something else. He does not seem to have a feel for when he is about to get sacked. I saw it repeatedly last year. He was injured because of that lack of feel.

I want him to lead us to the Super Bowl. He has got to get his act together.[/quote]

:doh:

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[quote=skinsfan69;465047]Put down the crack pipe.[/quote]

There's something about preseason football that sucks the brains out of people's heads I swear.

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[quote=Mattyk72;465073]There's something about preseason football that sucks the brains out of people's heads I swear.[/quote]

Having Colt be our QB is a joke, I agree. But you have to admit that JC was awful last night. Same crap, different game...

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[quote=Mattyk72;465072]:doh:[/quote]

Pleaes tell me what you saw out there last night that makes you think what this guy is saying about JC is so wrong?

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[quote=hesscl34;465075]Pleaes tell me what you saw out there last night that makes you think what this guy is saying about JC is so wrong?[/quote]

Did you miss the other 2 games so far?

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[quote=Mattyk72;465076]Did you miss the other 2 games so far?[/quote]

Nope, I saw them, and I also saw the last two seasons... He's inconsistent, as usual.

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Young QBs tend to be inconsistent. It's part of the learning curve. Overall he's been more good than bad this preseason, including how he's looked in camp.

For a guy learning another new offense I think he's actually ahead of schedule. In comparison look at how a veteran QB in Todd Collins has looked in trying to learn this offense.

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I think that JC has been much improved this season so far. He has been better outside the pocket and his footwork and mechanics have vastly improved leading to a quicker release. However my biggest concern from last year until now is his deep ball. He needs to put a little more air under his deep balls because they always seem to be just a tad to deep.

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JC really scares me.Our whole season depends on him.We all know he works very hard trying to learn in the off season .I will give him that .But im tired of these so so teams .I hope Joe could get us back to being that dominate team again.But we fell short once again.I've seen improvement on JC so far but he needs to be more consistant ,work on the deep throws and hold onto the ball.I can't tell ya how many times he dropped the ball last year.Hail to the skins

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Wait a minute, the guy has one so so game out of three and he's inconsistent? Are you guys being for real here? What, he's supposed to light it up and be perfect in preseason?

By the way, have we looked around the league at the other QBs in Campbell's class? Get back to me when you look at their stats from this preseason.

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Calm down, i was talking about deep routes, thats it!!

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Bottom line, anyone who has watched the Skins over the past season, this preseason included, and their saying we need to trade Campbell needs their head checked.

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JC is going to be a very good quarterback for us, but i just would like us to complete one deep route to a wideout.

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[quote=WaldSkins;465093]Calm down, i was talking about deep routes, thats it!![/quote]

Don't forget the TD he sailed over Cooley's head too. :spank:

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[quote=hesscl34;465077]Nope, I saw them, and I also saw the last two seasons... He's inconsistent, as usual.[/quote]He threw 10 passes. It's hard to look like anything in the preseason, because as a starter, you just don't get to play enough.

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[quote=KokoMike;464995]I am going to take a hard line position, not because I think Colt Brennan should start. He need some time.

Jason Campbell's delivery is soooooo slow. Sure he can hit wide open receivers. Last year, he telegraphed everything. He is doing it again. I am not a Campbell hater, but I have to be honest. If he can't get better with that delivery thing, we should trade him before his contract is way off the charts.[/quote]

When your going to just repeat what the announcer says you should make sure you post it correctly. He said that JC's biggest problem is that he WAIT'S to long to make the pass.

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The only time during the preseason that you can really take anything of value away from in regards to our starting QB is the third preseason game (our 4th because of the HOF game). That's when the 1's get to play at least a half of football, not one series here or there.

I'm happy that Brennan has looked good as opposed to bad this preseason, but all of the jock riding, man love is getting a little ridiculous.

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Brennan is insurance if JC does not pan out in the next 2 seasons. 2 more seasons and JC should be up to snuff, if not he can probably be chalked up as a failed experiment. I doubt that will happen, but who knows. By week 7 we will know if he h as truly improved over last season.

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FYI: Comcast Sportsnet is replaying the game right now.

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Lets not get ahead of ourselves. None of our Qbs looked that great. Colt Brennan looked the best tonight. But at times he held on to the ball too long also. He had some impressive passes I will say that. But I credit taht TD catch to Goode more than to Brennan because it almsot got picked put Goode snatched up and ran. But I wills ay this. Colt is not going to be our starting QB but hemight end being our second string QB befoe the season up.

As for those trying to start on the JC bashing band wagon again. Everyone has bad games. If you look at Eli & Romo..they have had bad games too and more than good ones. JC on had one out of 3. I will take that and its beter for him to learn now from his mistakes than during the season. He needs to make quicker reads and get the ball out and our WRs need more seperation. Saying that he needs to zip the ball in there and not get to excited with his throws..I did see two high balls. But this will be worked on and even Zorn said JC is a good learnier. He will learn from his mitakes. Other than that he has looked good so far in the preseason. He is not going to be perfect..Bu the is catching on and I will take this team to the playoffs if he stays healthy.

The same people were praising Collins are mute now and last week peopel were bashing Colt. So let's just keep this tone. JC is our starting QB and Colt will end up being our 2nd QB. Collins was a product of saunders system. JC will come along more once he gets more comfortable with this offense which he should be by the end of preseason and if Devine gets cut so everyone can get more reps. Lets jsut support all of our QBs. Colt is not goign to be number 1..So give him props on his good games and be glad that we MAY have a good 2nd QB in Colt and realize he is playing against third string secondaries. But he still has talent and the same can be said for Mason. I think we are in a good position and at the end of the day. We are 3 and O in preseason..It may not count but is better than being 0-3.

HTTR!!

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[quote=hesscl34;465074]Having Colt be our QB is a joke, I agree. But you have to admit that JC was awful last night. Same crap, different game...[/quote]

Awful?? Please..... you're going a little too far.

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[quote=hesscl34;465077]Nope, I saw them, and I also saw the last two seasons... He's inconsistent, as usual.[/quote]

Considering the guy has to learn a new offense every year, and on top of that has average to below average NFL wr's, I think he's been pretty solid so far. I think Zorn will take his game to the next level. But you have to realize that it might not happen this year.

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I think this game was a nice little reality check. We played flat for the most part and not finishing those drives is a concern. I'm hoping to see a bit more inspired play against the Panthers.

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;465077]Nope, I saw them, and I also saw the last two seasons... He's inconsistent, as usual.[/QUOTE]

The whole team is inconsistent, as usual over the last two seasons.

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[quote=redskinsgirl;465157]The whole team is inconsistent, as usual over the last two seasons.[/quote]


....actually if you look at the second half the 2007 season through this preseason, the Redskins are one of the hottest teams in football.

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I really hate to beat this horse to death, but let's look at Jason Campbell's class.

1 Smith, Alex
2 Rodgers, Aaron
3 [B]Campbell, Jason[/B]
4 Frye, Charlie
5 Walter, Andrew
6 Orton, Kyle
7 Greene, David
8 McPherson, Adrian
9 Orlovsky, Dan
10 Fitzpatrick, Ryan
11 Anderson, Derek

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[QUOTE=12thMan;465159]I really hate to beat this horse to death, but let's look at Jason Campbell's class.

1 Smith, Alex
2 Rodgers, Aaron
3 [B]Campbell, Jason[/B]
4 Frye, Charlie
5 Walter, Andrew
6 Orton, Kyle
7 Greene, David
8 McPherson, Adrian
9 Orlovsky, Dan
10 Fitzpatrick, Ryan
11 Anderson, Derek[/QUOTE]

JC & Derek Anderson are definitely the top 2 in this class.

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;465165]JC & Derek Anderson are definitely the top 2 in this class.[/quote]

That's kind of my point. A few of those guys aren't even playing football any longer.

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[quote=12thMan;465095]Bottom line, anyone who has watched the Skins over the past season, this preseason included, and their saying we need to trade Campbell needs their head checked.[/quote]

I don't think anyone has said we should trade Campbell. I just think a lot of us see this year as his do or die year. It's time to prove his worth.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;465125]Brennan is insurance if JC does not pan out in the next 2 seasons. 2 more seasons and JC should be up to snuff, if not he can probably be chalked up as a failed experiment. I doubt that will happen, but who knows. By week 7 we will know if he h as truly improved over last season.[/quote]

I don't think that was the intention when they drafted him, though I guess w/any backup you can call them "insurance" as they might win the starting job. I think the hope was that Colt would be a reliable young backup in a couple years, which the team has needed for a long time. We've had some decent backups but none that are young & developing like he is.

The fact that he was taken in the 6th round shows that they're not investing a lot in the position & don't want to create camp competition for JC.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;465158]....actually if you look at the second half the 2007 season through this preseason, the Redskins are one of the hottest teams in football.[/QUOTE]

It still doesn't change the fact that the Skins have been inconsistent. JC hasn't been the only player over the last two seasons that hasn't been consistent. I felt last year the Skins (not GB) should have been competing with the Boyz for the top spot in the NFC. The reason the Skins lost seven games wasn't solely due to JC, but the Skins being inconsistent. The Skins should have won 5 out of the 7 games they lost last year. The GB, Philly, and NY games, JC was on his JOB and they still lost. The Philly game JC had three TDs(zero int) without a starting receiver.(Yes he threw an int in GB game, but Favre threw 2 and had 0 TDs.) I will even say for most the the Dallas game JC was on his JOB. I don't understand why some of you are ready to throw JC under the bus. If we going to the JC under the bus, then we need to start throwing some of his teammates with him.