Re: There's No Quarterback Controversy
 

his auburn stats:;:::Jason Campbell #17 QB

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YARDS TOUCHDOWNS
7,299 45



Birth Date December 31, 1981
Birth Place Laurel, MS
Height 6-5
Weight 228 lbs.
Age 23
Class Senior

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Stats Overview Passing
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2001 0 142 1117 0.0 7.87 72 4 4 15 69.74
2002 94 149 1215 63.1 8.15 54 11 5 14 149.23
2003 181 293 2267 61.8 7.74 68 10 8 25 132.57
2004 188 270 2700 69.6 10.00 87 20 7 13 172.89




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Re: There's No Quarterback Controversy
 

[quote=prinzeofmoval;509500]He doesn't and isn't capable of doing this. Next![/quote]Wait, I thought we were talking about Jason Campbell. But this sounds like were talking about some people on this site, and the way they understand football.

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[quote=Twilbert07;509312]Maybe you're right. I think in this win-now league, 1.5 years does say something, though. Last year when JC went out, the Skins were 5-7. Living in Atlanta, I see a rookie kicking ass, and last night I saw someone from Blue Hen U outplay our guy. I'm frustrated and not happy about averaging 8 or 9 points/game against these playoff teams. Campbell might be good in the long run, but he seems to be taking steps backward right now.[/quote]Be careful if you are going to justify anything by saying it's a win now league. Because that doesn't actually mean anything. 31 teams are going to not win "now", and I wouldn't recommend to them all that they start rebuilding.

Matt Ryan has been the surprise of the year, especially because the guy I saw at BC didn't seem like a can't miss prospect. But I think Atlanta's offense is what you get when you combine an efficient running game with an already established receiving corps, and then allow the QB and the young OL to develop in a fertile environment. I don't think Ryan is Manning-type special, but he does understand the pro game, and as rare as it is for a No. 3 overall QB to come into a great offense from day one, credit the Falcons. That offense was something they started building under Rich McKay, and continued to do with Thomas Dimitroff with the signing of Michael Turner. Joey Harrington and Chris Redman BOTH had career years last year.

We have been trying to do the same thing, but chances are: if you think you need a quarterback, you probably don't have a very good offense.

I would question which game you were watching if you thought Flacco outplayed Campbell though.

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Campbell Out--collins In

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[quote=GTripp0012;509652]Wait, I thought we were talking about Jason Campbell. But this sounds like were talking about some people on this site, and the way they understand football.[/quote]

lol these threads really do go nowhere huh?

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[quote=skins6;509686]Campbell Out--collins In[/quote]

Did you even watch the end of last season?

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[quote=SkinDogg;509735]Did you even watch the end of last season?[/quote]

yes its called being healthy.

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how about just trying to throw past the first down markers! why is it if we need 8 yards we pass for 3 if we need 3 yards we pass for 2 and so on. The best passer in the league will have a losing season. Frustrating!

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Why do we keep making excuses for JC (4 different offenses, no offensive line, etc.). Face it!! He is a mediocre quarterback who has a long throwing motion, doesn't sense pressure, and doesn’t move well in the pocket like good quarterbacks....AKA Tony Romo & Big Ben for a few examples. Average quarterbacks (Mark Rypien) can look good with a running game, and good offensive line. The question is can Jason be a good QB with an average offensive line, and average running game? My answer would be NO.....

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[quote=redsk1;509479]I think the question should be is JC a playmaker or not? Or does JC need everything around him to be clicking in order to win games and play well?

I think he's shown that when the blocking and run game is working well he's a pretty decent qb.[/quote]


It just so happens that Scouts Inc agrees with you.

Originally from ESPN Insider:
[quote=Scouts Inc]Washington
• The Redskins used a variety of five- and three-step drops and play-action passes to offset the aggressive Ravens defense, but they were unable to consistently keep Campbell clean in the pocket. It seemed that when Campbell had time he was able to be effective, especially early on, but he didn't have enough support from the running game to keep the Baltimore defense off-balance.[/quote]

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I think it's funny that people will say that Jason "needs the entire offense to click to be any good." That's how 90% of the quarterbacks in the NFL work. Every one of them needs help, not necessarily from the run game, but it can also come from superior receivers.

Let's take a look at teams who don't run well:
-Arizona: Both of there starters are better than Santana Moss (head and shoulders maybe) and I'd go so far as to assert that Steve Breaston would be an upgrade over Randle El.
-Colts: No one has ever said Jason Campbell is Peyton Manning, but for the sake of argument, Wayne is better than Moss right now, Clark is more productive than Cooley, and Harrison/Gonzo are better than any 2/3 receivers the Skins have. AND, now that they're healthy they have one of the best pass protecting offensive lines in the league.
-Lions: Horrible football team.
-Bengals: Horrible football team.
-Rams: Horrible football team.

There are your bottom 5 rushing teams in the NFL. They have Qb's who I would be ecstatic if JC became, amazing receivers, great o lines, or they don't win football games. The last few games, the Skins have been a bad running team and they've seen similar results to the Lions, Bengals and Rams, a balanced offense helps win games unless you've built a passing football team. Unfortunately, the Skins never aspired to be a passing football team, so until one of the best receiving corps and a great o line walks through the door, it's a little bit tough to judge Jason Campbell.

Finally, if you think that Todd Collins would have more success in this system, with no running or pass blocking to go along with a spotty defense, you're out of your mind. No one on this team is playing well and that won't change by switching to a journeyman QB who played 4 or 5 good games.