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[quote=44ever;527266]First off who says we need a "speed back" yea I seen Sproles too and yea it would be nice to have "him" but Betts is no Ward and never will be.

A Portis/Ward combo would knock the crap out of any defense.

Wards stats [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6994"]Derrick Ward - New York Giants - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]
Betts stats [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5942"]Ladell Betts - Washington Redskins - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]

Ward put up over 1000 yards and he had to share the stage with Jacobs who only put up 60 more yards than Ward. Jacobs put up 1089 yards. Together they put up 2100 yards.

If you put Portis and Ward together in 2008 with there respected yardage we would have had 2500 rushing yards. Ill take that any day.

Ward also avg 5.6 YPC vs Betts 3.4 YPC
No contest here my friend.

FYI Ward is not my FA pick. I was just responding to 53fan post on Jacobs. But I wouldnt say no to Ward thats for sure[/quote]

So the Giants o-line comes as a package deal with Derrick Ward?

Ladell Betts statistics 2006: [url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5942/gamelog;_ylt=AqTNktF5vS7noaRTvcQiYUP.uLYF?year=2006]Ladell Betts - Washington Redskins - Game Log - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Ward is a fine player, and someone should sign him to be their lead back for a couple of years (he is nearing the age when running backs tend to wear out, though he does not have a lot of carries on his body). The Redskins already have plenty of money committed to the running back position, though, so whatever you think of the current players it is not in the cards to add anyone of consequence there. Everyone knows that the O-Line is where they need to concentrate resources. It is obvious, it has been said over and over, but it is the simple truth.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;527472]So the Giants o-line comes as a package deal with Derrick Ward?[/quote]

I guess I'll answer this. It was a joke intended for 53fan. See Post #183

But for the record. Portis did'nt need the Giants O Line and neither would Ward. How about giving the Skins O Line some credit for Portis' success.

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[quote=44ever;527474]I guess I'll answer this. It was a joke intended for 53fan. See Post #183

But for the record. Portis did'nt need the Giants O Line and neither would Ward. How about giving the Skins O Line some credit for Portis' success.[/quote]

I give them no credit considering they were a big reason for us missing the playoffs this year...if they were a solid oline they would be able to stay healthy the whole year and let portis stay at the pace he was running at in yards..and protect campbell for more than 2 secs

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[quote=Nflnick11;527482][B]I give them no credit [/B]considering they were a big reason for us missing the playoffs this year...if they were a solid oline they would be able to stay healthy the whole year and let portis stay at the pace he was running at in yards..and protect campbell for more than 2 secs[/quote]

Wow, [B]No[/B] credit to our O Line. Portis ran 1400+ yards all by himself. OK!

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DENVER DUMPS DRE’
Posted by Mike Florio on February 17, 2009, 8:13 p.m.

After cutting six players on Monday, the Denver Broncos dumped a seventh guy on Tuesday.

Gone is cornerback Dre’ Bly, according to the team’s official web site.

Bly arrived via trade two years ago. He was due to earn a base salary of $3.25 million in 2009.

The move makes him an unrestricted free agent.

He spent his first four years with the Rams, then four with the Lions.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;527565]DENVER DUMPS DRE’
Posted by Mike Florio on February 17, 2009, 8:13 p.m.

After cutting six players on Monday, the Denver Broncos dumped a seventh guy on Tuesday.

Gone is cornerback Dre’ Bly, according to the team’s official web site.

Bly arrived via trade two years ago. He was due to earn a base salary of $3.25 million in 2009.

The move makes him an unrestricted free agent.

He spent his first four years with the Rams, then four with the Lions.[/quote]

Wow. I'm a bit surprised at that one. When he and Champ are healthy they are pretty elite tandem, although both are on the wrong side of 30.

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[quote=44ever;527557]Wow, [B]No[/B] credit to our O Line. Portis ran 1400+ yards all by himself. OK![/quote]Not [I]all[/I] by himself, he had a lot of guts to help him out!

;)

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;527565]DENVER DUMPS DRE’
Posted by Mike Florio on February 17, 2009, 8:13 p.m.

After cutting six players on Monday, the Denver Broncos dumped a seventh guy on Tuesday.

Gone is cornerback Dre’ Bly, according to the team’s official web site.

Bly arrived via trade two years ago. He was due to earn a base salary of $3.25 million in 2009.

The move makes him an unrestricted free agent.

He spent his first four years with the Rams, then four with the Lions.[/quote]

Damn, Denver is really cleaning house there.

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Would you look into signing Bly? I might sign him if I knew for sure we were going to release Springs. Remember Cerrato was jumping at the gun to trade for him last year. If we signed him to a reasonable deal would still have a heck of a trio (Hall, Rogers, Bly). What do you guys think?

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[quote=vallin21;527573]Would you look into signing Bly? I might sign him if I knew for sure we were going to release Springs. Remember Cerrato was jumping at the gun to trade for him last year. If we signed him to a reasonable deal would still have a heck of a trio (Hall, Rogers, Bly). What do you guys think?[/quote]Bly is Leigh Bodden plus 5 years of age. If he's cheap, I'd go for it. But not at Springs' expense, necessarily.

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[quote=vallin21;527573]Would you look into signing Bly? I might sign him if I knew for sure we were going to release Springs.[B] Remember Cerrato was jumping at the gun to trade for him last year[/B]. If we signed him to a reasonable deal would still have a heck of a trio (Hall, Rogers, Bly). What do you guys think?[/quote]

Yes they did want to reel Dre in to DC. No tellin, if Springs gets the axe as he should, anything is possible.

If the dollars are sensible and we also land Hall...ya never know. And Rodgers is still here, which for the record I not only think he will be, but it would be foolish to let him go.

That would be a solid tandem at CB.

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Does anyone know what the deal with Dwayne Robertson is. Former 4th pick in the 2003 draft, only 27. Also, the Patriots released Billy Gates OG, started several games last year, he is 27 also. Does any know anything about him?

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Are we ever going to see any players released? Such as Jansen, Springs, Washington, and Griffin.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;527592]Are we ever going to see any players released? Such as Jansen, Springs, Washington, and Griffin.[/quote]

Slow down grasshopper! Wishful thinking on JJ going anywhere. Grif might just be around to, I hope we keep Grif.

I would think SS is a goner but who knows. I would take any bet MW's time has expired in DC.

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Dre busy showing off new Sports Complex in Va. Beach and getting fired at the same time.....now thats a bummer.

[url=http://hamptonroads.com/2009/02/top-athletes-help-unveil-beach-sports-complex-plan]Top athletes help unveil Beach sports complex plan | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com[/url]

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Negative cap space to dump Dre..?

BRONCOS LOST CAP SPACE TO CUT BLY
Posted by Mike Florio on February 17, 2009, 10:49 p.m.

Though the decision to release cornerback Dre’ Bly allows the Broncos to avoid $3.25 million in 2009 base salary, Bill Williamson of ESPN.com reports that the move actually resulted in a negative cap hit for the team.

Per Williamson, the release of Bly triggers $9 million in dead money. When subtracting the money (salary and bonuses) that Bly won’t receive this year, the net cap savings is a negative $2.6 million.

Regardless, the Broncos have more than $25 million in 2009 cap space.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;527592]Are we ever going to see any players released? Such as Jansen, Springs, Washington, and Griffin.[/quote]

As said Jansen is back for sure cuz the release fee is too big this year. Griff will be back too based on a solid '08 performance. Cutting Springs, Washington, Taylor and/or Daniels this early tips our hand and is pretty unnecessary... but like you i'm getting pretty impatient :)

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The Cardinals have slapped the franchise tag on Dansby for the 2nd straight year. [url=http://gridironfans.com/forums/latest-nfl-headlines/88880-cardinals-slap-franchise-tag-lb-karlos-dansby.html][Cardinals] Cardinals Slap Franchise Tag On LB Karlos Dansby - GridironFans.com[/url]

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[quote=53Fan;527623]The Cardinals have slapped the franchise tag on Dansby for the 2nd straight year. [url=http://gridironfans.com/forums/latest-nfl-headlines/88880-cardinals-slap-franchise-tag-lb-karlos-dansby.html][Cardinals] Cardinals Slap Franchise Tag On LB Karlos Dansby - GridironFans.com[/url][/quote]

53 you're doin a helluva job keepin us abreast of the action... not surprised by this but also don't envy the Cards. They're set to pay him about $10 mil on the year now because the salary has to increase 20% over last year - Dansby is good but I think that's more than he's worth in the big picture of things. Cards didn't have a lot of options though...

well what do you think is it on to Michael Boley or Leroy Hill or Jon Vilma?

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[quote=The Goat;527627]53 you're doin a helluva job keepin us abreast of the action... not surprised by this but also don't envy the Cards. They're set to pay him about $10 mil on the year now because the salary has to increase 20% over last year - Dansby is good but I think that's more than he's worth in the big picture of things. Cards didn't have a lot of options though...

[B]well what do you think is it on to Michael Boley or Leroy Hill or Jon Vilma[/B]?[/quote]

I don't know much about Hill right now but I think Detroit is looking hard at Vilma. I would like to know more about Boley. Before last year the Falcons were looking to sign him to a long term contract. I know he had some personal problems and some coaching changes. He has some talent and he's young. I think we should at least take a look at him.

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Seems Hill was recently arrested for possession of pot and missed the last 4 games of the season with a pinched nerve in his neck. I think Seattle is still trying to sign him to a contract but may Tag him if an agreement isn't reached. At least that was their plan before the drug charge.

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[quote=53Fan;527623]The Cardinals have slapped the franchise tag on Dansby for the 2nd straight year. [URL="http://gridironfans.com/forums/latest-nfl-headlines/88880-cardinals-slap-franchise-tag-lb-karlos-dansby.html"][Cardinals] Cardinals Slap Franchise Tag On LB Karlos Dansby - GridironFans.com[/URL][/quote]

Well at least now he won't have to send his kids to a state school.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;527634]Well at least now he won't have to send his kids to a state school.[/quote]

:laughing- Yeah, I guess now I can stop worrying about the poor bastard.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;527590]Does anyone know what the deal with Dwayne Robertson is. Former 4th pick in the 2003 draft, only 27. Also, the Patriots released Billy Gates OG, started several games last year, he is 27 also. Does any know anything about him?[/quote]

I think his name is Bill Yates...though Bill Gates could do wonders for our salary cap concerns :)

Solid backup I think

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May want to add Landon Johnson to the list of possible linebackers

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According to John Clayton, the Panthers are making progress toward signing Gross which would allow them to tag Peppers and not lose their top 2 FA"s....[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/]NFL Football Teams, Scores, Stats, News, Standings, Rumors - National Football League - ESPN[/url] ...scroll down to John Clayton.

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HAYNESWORTH TO HIT THE MARKET
Posted by Mike Florio on February 18, 2009, 11:57 a.m.

If the Tennessee Titans manage to re-sign defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, it won’t happen until after Haynesworth has seen what other teams are willing to pay.

According to Adam Schefter of NFL Network, Haynesworth won’t do a deal with the Titans until after he tests the market.

Schefter says that a “host” of teams are expected to make a play for Haynesworth, one of the top free agents of the 2009 class, and that Haynesworth’s deal could average roughly $12 million per year with guaranteed money in excess of $30 million.

We still believe that the principle of caveat emptor applies here, especially in the wake of last week’s revelation that, four days after being placed on probation, Haynesworth allegedly caused an automobile accident by driving his Ferrari at a high rate of speed.

For more on the concerns teams should have about making a guy who didn’t become a force until he was playing to get paid the highest-paid defensive player in the NFL, here’s a recent thing we did for SportingNews.com.

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I found this article to be pretty interesting. It's from National Football Post (although it was linked on CBS Sports), and it goes over the evaluation process for FA O-lineman, and gives a list/synopsis of the players out there.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11389628]Free-agent tackles: Best of the rest after Gross, Carey - NFL - CBSSports.com Football[/url]

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Sproles , Suggs ....tagged. Lechler signs 4 yeaer deal with Raiders and also heard Peppers wants to be a Cowboy.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;527881]Sproles , Suggs ....tagged. Lechler signs 4 yeaer deal with Raiders and also heard [B]Peppers wants to be a Cowboy[/B].[/quote]

I just heard the same thing. Kinda reminds me of when I was a little boy and wanted to join the circus.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;527881]Sproles , Suggs ....tagged. Lechler signs 4 yeaer deal with Raiders and also heard Peppers wants to be a Cowboy.[/quote]

Do you have a source for Lechler signing?

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Never mind Lechler signed for 12 mill

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[quote=44ever;527897]Never mind Lechler signed for 12 mill[/quote]

Yeah, I just read it on NFL.com. That sucks.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;527899]Yeah, I just read it on NFL.com. That sucks.[/quote]

Well it just goes to show the importance they put on a great kicker. Very smart. Too bad I really wanted him here. Let's go get Hunter

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Apparently Peppers has told the Panthers he would only accept a trade to one of four teams. Three are in the NFC, one of which is the Cowcircus, and the other is an unnamed AFC team. Interesting. I wonder who the other NFC teams are....

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11394827]Pressure on, Panthers limited to four teams on Peppers' trade list - NFL - CBSSports.com Football[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;527902]Apparently Peppers has told the Panthers he would only accept a trade to one of four teams. Three are in the NFC, one of which is the Cowcircus, and the other is an unnamed AFC team. Interesting. I wonder who the other NFC teams are....

[URL="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11394827"]Pressure on, Panthers limited to four teams on Peppers' trade list - NFL - CBSSports.com Football[/URL][/quote]

Can't be too hard to figure out, who else plays a base 3-4?

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[quote=Mattyk72;527903]Can't be too hard to figure out, who else plays a base 3-4?[/quote]

Oh yeah. Duh. Green Bay? I'm drawing a blank. Who else in the NFC runs a base 3-4? Seems like it's much more of an AFC thing for some reason.

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[quote=GMScud;527906]Oh yeah. Duh. Green Bay? I'm drawing a blank. Who else in the NFC runs a base 3-4? Seems like it's much more of an AFC thing for some reason.[/quote]

I'm guessing his teams other than Dallas are Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and New England. San Diego plays 3-4 too right?

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49ers too I think

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I would guess he would like to be part of that Pittsburgh D. Id hate to see him wearing a Star