Re: Seems like Cutler might be available.
 

I heard John Clayton tonight say that he has heard nothing about the Redskins being interested, but he wouldn't rule them out simply because of Snyder liking the big prize, but again he hasn't heard anything so far.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;537744]Its even worse than you think. The DC Examiner, a legitimate newspaper is now reporting this as news as well.

[URL="http://www.dcexaminer.com/sports/Do-Skins-want-Cutler-41399007.html"]www.dcexaminer.com >> Sports[/URL]



Apparently, thebleacherreport is a legitimate source now and no one - the DC Examiner writer, or his editor, noticed that the article was labeled humor. The idiots at extremeskins are having a field day with this.[/quote]

Newspapers are hurting these days. Nothing like making up "sources" to stir the pot and generate website hits for the vaunted DC Examiner. :doh:

My guess is either this is a total fabrication, or the dude who wrote this realized the bleacherreport article was "humor" after posting his article.

Re: Seems like Cutler might be available.
 

What the hell is going on here? Is this serious or not?

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[quote=The Goat;537760]What the hell is going on here? Is this serious or not?[/quote]

There's no way we unload Cooley or Landry, let alone both of them. The cap hit alone would kill us.

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according to pft, cerrato gave danny elfin of the times a denial... sortof

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I guess that's what JC meant by shocking changes would be coming out of Redskins park. lol.

Funny. Think about it. The Browns have a top notch QB right now and they would trade him away for JC who isn't bad but the whole deal must be for them to get Cooley. Then you have the Skins getting a not so bad QB in Cutler and a no name TE. Two teams get two people and what does Denver get. One player. I guess Denver would have to be pretty despirate to get Quinn to make a trade like that. Our whole trade would be based around getting a QB who has the same stats as the one we already have so it must be the no name TE we want and need. The Browns would almost make out like bandits but they have other holes to fill also.

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to trade cooley would be crazy. please say its not true

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[quote=47FAN;537767]to trade cooley would be crazy. please say its not true[/quote]

It's not true

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I think Campbell get's this year to prove himself. If he does decent we sign him long term. If not I think that Zorn will push Brennan hard in the offseason to see if he has what it takes to take the reigns.

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i hope not. wouldnt mind cutler but to get rid of cooley

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The problem isn't Campbell. The problem surrounds Campbell. He has an aging and increasingly ineffective offensive line blocking for him and he doesn't have a sure-fire No.1 WR. Do you guys really think Cutler is going to come in here and pick up where he left off with the Broncos last year. We don't have a player like Brandon Marshall who can pull down 18 catches in one game. Eddie Royal and Moss are similar but we lack the Andre Johnson/Marshall/Fitzgerald type of WR that Cutler relied so heavily on.
I think Campbell has done well for us under the circumstances. This is the first year he'll play in the same system for a second straight year since HS or damn close to it. He does and says all the right things. He's exactly the kind of player a team should want to build a team around. You don't hear Campbell pissing and moaning about not getting a contract extension or being mentioned in trade talks. He's a professional and he conducts himself like a man. Cutler is acting like a F'n baby! Knuckle up and play ball.

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yes please give us another year with a couple more pieces and see the results

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Wow. This is getting funnier by the minute. First he whines about Shanahan, then he asks to be traded quietly, then he's publicly outraged when the team complies with his original request, so he then re-requests to be traded more publicly. What the hell is going on here?

This is a circus I want no part of. Cutler is coming off as a crybaby primadonna and Bus Cook seems to be mishandling him. WTF??

[B][URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/17/report-cook-was-begging-for-cutler-trade/"]REPORT: COOK WAS “BEGGING” FOR CUTLER TRADE[/URL][/B]

Posted by Mike Florio on March 17, 2009, 9:32 p.m.


A couple of weeks ago, Peter King of SI.com reported, almost in passing, that Broncos quarterback [URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/02/report-cutler-had-already-asked-for-a-trade/"]Jay Cutler asked to be traded[/URL] after quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates left for USC. If true, this would make Cutler’s outrage over nearly being traded a tad, shall we say, phony.
Now, John Czarnecki of FOXSports.com adds some meat to the bone, reporting that agent [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9345936/Cutler%27s-agent-Cooks-up-another-drama"]Bus Cook was “begging” the Broncos[/URL] to trade Cutler before the failed attempt to send him to a new team.
“Denver told him no from the beginning,” Czarnecki writes. “But somehow Cook has been able — how hilarious is this? — to paint Cutler as some victim in the cruel world of [URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#"]NFL[IMG]http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif[/IMG][/URL] trade talk.”
It’s the perfect setup for one of our new PFTV segments, in which we pin a nice chunk of the blame on the agent whose name rhymes with Pus Book.

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Bus did the same thing last year with another client of his, Brett Favre. More than anything he's trying to get Cutler a new contract. So wherever he plays next year he wants it to be with a new, substantially more lucrative contract.

I'm pretty sure the Browns and the Jets are the teams involved in this rumored 3 team deal.

But the truth about the Redskins interest lies somewhere between serious talks and Jason is our QB

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[quote=SmootSmack;537799]Bus did the same thing last year with another client of his, Brett Favre. More than anything he's trying to get Cutler a new contract. So wherever he plays next year he wants it to be with a new, substantially more lucrative contract.

I'm pretty sure the Browns and the Jets are the teams involved in this rumored 3 team deal.

But the truth about the Redskins interest lies somewhere between serious talks and Jason is our QB[/quote]

I don't understand how any of this gets Cutler closer to a bigger contract. Cutler is making an ass of himself, he's bickering with his coach, using the media as a mouthpiece, and demanding a new team.

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[quote=GMScud;537806]I don't understand how any of this gets Cutler closer to a bigger contract. Cutler is making an ass of himself, he's bickering with his coach, using the media as a mouthpiece, and demanding a new team.[/quote]

But all it takes is one team to say we'll put up with that because he can play

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reliable sources on extremeskins.com are saying the skins are interested. Cutler was the 12th pick when he was drafted. If Denver would take our 13th overall pick plus maybe Brennan, it would be a good deal for us. We could then trade Campbell for a second rounder to help recoup the pick.

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[quote=SmootSmack;537812]But all it takes is one team to say we'll put up with that because he can play[/quote]

It's called the T.O. effect.

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[quote=GMScud;537806]I don't understand how any of this gets Cutler closer to a bigger contract. Cutler is making an ass of himself, he's bickering with his coach, using the media as a mouthpiece, and demanding a new team.[/quote]
They tried to trade him!!!!!!!!! Why would you blame Cutler. His whole life would be turned upside down if they traded him.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;537813]reliable sources on extremeskins.com are saying the skins are interested. Cutler was the 12th pick when he was drafted. If Denver would take our 13th overall pick [B]plus maybe Brennan[/B], it would be a good deal for us. We could then trade Campbell for a second rounder to help recoup the pick.[/quote]

Oh man, if this place were a town some people would set it on fire. LOL.

On a serious note, aren't there other teams with more ammunition to trade for Cutler? Kinda like how Peppers wants to play for the Cowboys, but they have nothing to trade for him.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;537818]They tried to trade him!!!!!!!!! Why would you blame Cutler. His whole life would be turned upside down if they traded him.[/quote]

Huh? First off, allegedly he and his agent both REQUESTED a trade before the Broncos actually tried to trade him. Then the Broncos supposedly tried to comply with his request and he started whining about it to the media.

Your post makes no sense, and it doesn't answer my question, which you quoted, about how this gets him closer to a new contract.

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[quote=SmootSmack;537812]But all it takes is one team to say we'll put up with that because he can play[/quote]

But he's currently 2 years into a 6yr $48M contract. Not exactly chump change. He doesn't deserve Peyton/Brady/Big Ben money yet.

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SS, I'll tiptoe around PFT's latest post regarding Favre/Cook/ESPN...

Interesting accusation. That's as far as I'll go with it.

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I don't know but I'm starting to feel a similarity between Cutler and Jeff George.

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George had a better offensive line

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[url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iiB4vdBT_j6VsTB1pWbP3EBkuudgD9701VG00]The Associated Press: Denver Broncos, Jay Cutler in holding pattern[/url]
Apparently McDaniels is simply emulating Belichick. No pandering to superstars.

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[quote=GMScud;537840]SS, I'll tiptoe around PFT's latest post regarding Favre/Cook/ESPN...

Interesting accusation. That's as far as I'll go with it.[/quote]

They're making some general assumptions and omitting a lot...and being naive as well

But whatever

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Wow those 3-way scenarios are wild.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;537889][URL="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iiB4vdBT_j6VsTB1pWbP3EBkuudgD9701VG00"]The Associated Press: Denver Broncos, Jay Cutler in holding pattern[/URL]
Apparently McDaniels is simply emulating Belichick. No pandering to superstars.[/quote]

This clears things up, because someone "emulating Belichick" is emulating a jackass.

[quote][url=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3608]Jay Cutler[/url]

[B]Redskins GM Vinny Cerrato says Washington hasn't "talked to anyone" about acquiring Jay Cutler from Denver.[/B]
"Jason (Campbell) is going to be our QB this season," Cerrato added. While the Skins didn't deny interest in Cutler, they have next to zero cap room. They've already made their big money purchase and Cutler isn't going anywhere without a new contract.

[B]Source:[/B] [URL="http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/Mar/17/jason-our-quarterback/"]Washington Times[/URL]
[/quote]

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[quote][B]Profootballtalk.com is "hearing" that the Redskins have interest in Jay Cutler.
[/B]An internet rumor circulated Tuesday that a three-team deal sending Brady Quinn to Denver, Chris Cooley and Jason Campbell to Cleveland, and Cutler and Tony Scheffler to D.C. would be announced at 5PM, but it never was. PFT indicates that the Skins do have interest in Cutler, though. Perhaps Dan Snyder and Pat Bowlen will talk at the March 22-25 Owners' Meetings.

[B]Source: Profootballtalk.com [/B]

[/quote]Profootballtrash strikes again! Geesh.

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[quote=tryfuhl;537951]Wow those 3-way scenarios are wild.[/quote]

That deal would wreck our team.

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anyone notice in that AP article they mention the cowpokes as a secondary possibility? Can you imagine the drama that would ensue thereafter? (to clarify, they just seemed to be listing teams that had cap space)

Our JC is definitely a team guy, at least publicly. That's one of the reasons Gibbs drafted him, he wanted a qb that doesn't need all the spotlight but can still make plays.

Cutler was upset that they fired Shanahan, so looking back to that it's not too surprising that he's acting this way. Still, it makes him look like L. Coles. Maybe Pat Bowlen will end up sending him a flatscreen!

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Not to offer up a defense of JLC or anything, but that dude (who actually does work for a legitimate news outlet and presumably does actually have at least a few legitimate sources) cites a "source" and the guy is a pariah and a hack and we get LM's wonderful "source meter." But bleacherreport.com "the place for [b]fan-journalists[/b] to create and critique high-quality sports analysis" cites an "inside source" and throws out a completely absurd trade and it receives half-a-second of credence? And I know almost everyone here called BS, but wow. The internet has apparently corrupted our collective societal ability to critique source material. Every man his own reporter, whether he have the training or ability (or basic literacy) to perform the task.

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[B]John Denny[/B], you said: This is the first year he'll play in the same system for a second straight year since HS or damn close to it.

I thought JC played under AS for two yrs.

[quote]BHA, reliable sources on extremeskins.com are saying the skins are interested. Cutler was the 12th pick when he was drafted. If Denver would take our 13th overall pick plus maybe Brennan, it would be a good deal for us. We could then trade Campbell for a second rounder to help recoup the pick. [/quote]

I would think our 13 for Cutler would be good enough since he was a #12 pick of the 1st round. Why would we give them Brennan aslo? Then give up JC for a 2nd round pick? Then all we would have is Cutler and Collins? No back up after Collins. I could see us throwing in Brennan and keeping JC or give them JC and keep Brennan.

but no matter how you slice it what are we gaining? Cutler had the same or similar stats. Someone said Cutler is on the up swing. I would say so is JC. The first half of the yr he played lights out. obviously showing he can learn and has solved his interception problem or can solve it. but to bring in someone with the same stats is crazy.

What does Cutler have that JC does not? as a reason to why we should get rid of JC who will be in the same system for a 2nd yr and will know it better.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;537967]Not to offer up a defense of JLC or anything, but that dude (who actually does work for a legitimate news outlet and presumably does actually have at least a few legitimate sources) cites a "source" and the guy is a pariah and a hack and we get LM's wonderful "source meter." But bleacherreport.com "the place for [B]fan-journalists[/B] to create and critique high-quality sports analysis" cites an "inside source" and throws out a completely absurd trade and it receives half-a-second of credence? And I know almost everyone here called BS, but wow. The internet has apparently corrupted our collective societal ability to critique source material. Every man his own reporter, whether he have the training or ability (or basic literacy) to perform the task.[/quote]

Well to be honest with you...I get most of my info from the internet and only believe it when it's reported by a reputable source. As a matter of fact the internet has had more info in regards to Skins interests and signings way before JLC, the WP, or WT. I've pretty much stopped reading the paper for info cause it's always old news.

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Although Cerrato said JC is our QB how do we not know that team officials did not call Denver to see what the asking price would be? Think about it...we could get rid of Collins and have two young QB's and bring in a late round QB for developement. I just don't see us trading away our future like some other town beat writers would have us doing.

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[quote=Buster;537958]That deal would wreck our team.[/quote]

I could'nt agree more. I would imagine a lot of scenarios are talked about by owners just to see what options are available.

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[quote=dmek25;536357]dare i say it. Jay Cutler = Jeff George?[/quote]

[url=http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_11945847?source=rss]Trade Cutler? George deal in 1994 provides warning - The Denver Post[/url]

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[quote=SBXVII;537994][B]John Denny[/B], you said: This is the first year he'll play in the same system for a second straight year since HS or damn close to it.

I thought JC played under AS for two yrs.



I would think our 13 for Cutler would be good enough since he was a #12 pick of the 1st round. Why would we give them Brennan aslo? Then give up JC for a 2nd round pick? Then all we would have is Cutler and Collins? No back up after Collins. I could see us throwing in Brennan and keeping JC or give them JC and keep Brennan.

but no matter how you slice it what are we gaining? Cutler had the same or similar stats. Someone said Cutler is on the up swing. I would say so is JC. The first half of the yr he played lights out. obviously showing he can learn and has solved his interception problem or can solve it. but to bring in someone with the same stats is crazy.

[B]What does Cutler have that JC does not?[/B] as a reason to why we should get rid of JC who will be in the same system for a 2nd yr and will know it better.[/quote]

I would say that Cutler gets rid of the ball quicker, has a quicker release, and is coming off a 4,500 yard season. The year before he had a 3,500 yard season. So those are a few things. Right now JC is just a game manager and has only shown small flashes of being able to take over games. Both have great physical skills but right now Cutler is the better QB hands down.

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No, we can't afford him with our other pressing positional needs. Plus we are cap restrained with our high payroll.