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[quote=SBXVII;556585]Could you see a line up of

Samuals
Dockery
Jansen
Bridges
Williams

This would be one heavy O-line to push around. Keep the rest for when one needs a breather or gets hurt.[/quote]

I think it is a little early to write off Randy Thomas. Bridges probably has a better chance beating out Dockery.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;557641]I think it is a little early to write off Randy Thomas. Bridges probably has a better chance beating out Dockery.[/quote]

Thomas is historically way better than Dock....the only question is injury recovery...that is the main problem with all these old guys...some do well...some dont.
Perhaps Bridges could try center along with Jansen.
Heck, we could use an upgrade there as well as RT.
I'm not as concerned about the G spot anymore with Dock back and Bridges available.

I just dont know what happened to Rabach last year....he wasn't injured...he just underperformed...perhaps he wasn't doing that great the year before...perhaps the Guard play was just that much better. Thomas kicked but prior to last year...arguably the best lineman (along with Samuals)

Dream line up... and I may be missing a backup...and I know Williams is 400lbs..but my dream says hes 375 by preseason

Samuals, Dock, Jansen, Thomas, Williams
Heyer Bridges, Rabach, Rhinehart, Heyer/burley-UMD

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[quote=NicknacK89;557638]is there a weight update on mike william's?[/quote]

Yes! 385 Lbs. as of 5-27-09.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Williams_Plays__Weight__ing_Game_37086.jsp]Williams Plays 'Weight'-ing Game[/url]

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[quote=backrow;559828]Yes! 385 Lbs. as of 5-27-09.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Williams_Plays__Weight__ing_Game_37086.jsp]Williams Plays 'Weight'-ing Game[/url][/quote]

Awesome! Thanks for the update!!

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[quote=backrow;559828]Yes! 385 Lbs. as of 5-27-09.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Williams_Plays__Weight__ing_Game_37086.jsp]Williams Plays 'Weight'-ing Game[/url][/quote]

Good article and video clip. I know it is Skins hype, and we have to see how it translates on the field, but it would be excellent if Williams were able to be on the field.

[quote=Mike Williams]“I know I’m built for this game, no matter what. I can go out and do something else, but I’m made to hit people. So that’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to hit them hard and hit them often.”[/quote]

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^ Love the quote. :woot:

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Good to hear his weight is down but that's just half the battle. The more important part is shaking off the rust and getting his playing skills up to par.

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It was be a great story if he can step in and start at RT for us, contribute as a positive force, and finally live up to his potential. Im pulling for him and we need a good story along an O-line that is growing old and injury prone....

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[quote=Mattyk72;559868]Good to hear his weight is down but that's just half the battle. The more important part is shaking off the rust and getting his playing skills up to par.[/quote]

Hater!

...you're right though

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I cant wait to hear more news about this guy after the June 1 OTAs

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I am not looking for this guy to be an all-pro or even hoping for it. If he can pull a Mandarich and give us 2-3 good quality seasons as a starter or even back-up, that would be a HUGE gain for us.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;559905]I am not looking for this guy to be an all-pro or even hoping for it. If he can pull a Mandarich and give us 2-3 good quality seasons as a starter or even back-up, that would be a HUGE gain for us.[/quote]

I agree with that staement about looking for an All Pro. I do however think he is better than Jansen or Heyer.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;559905]I am not looking for this guy to be an all-pro or even hoping for it. If he can pull a Mandarich and give us 2-3 good quality seasons as a starter or even back-up, that would be a HUGE gain for us.[/quote]

I think what would be huge is if he was able to be a quality backup for Samuels. I think the rest of the line quality is relatively interchangeable, but when/if Samuels goes down that is when our line play drastically drops. If he can work through and be ready to go by mid season I think it will be a coup for us. I am still sorta hoping Levi Jones is at least being talked to.

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Good news to hear, we will see how the OTA's go. Id like to see him play back to the form that made him a 1st rounder and help our oline become a force again.But he does have a ways to go.

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I am so hoping this guy can put it together and stay healthy for us. I really think if he plays to his natural capabilities he is a MAJOR upgrade at RT. I am really setting myself up for disappointment though. The weight and injury issues don't just disappear and the fact that he is only eating salads is a red alert to me. he can't keep that kind of eating up long term. He needs to be working on keeping weight down without a special and unsustainable diet.

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yeah he is eating salads now to do a dramatic drop in weight in a short period. When he gets back to his target weight it wont be hard to keep it providing he continues to work out.

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[quote=backrow;559828]Yes! 385 Lbs. as of 5-27-09.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Williams_Plays__Weight__ing_Game_37086.jsp]Williams Plays 'Weight'-ing Game[/url][/quote]

I know it is a small detail...but the video has him quoting 392 lbs.

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If Buges can help Williams get is technique down then I see the team keeping him. No matter what size he is. They have already said they are supprised at how well he can move his feet. Which means speed is not an issue at this point. I think their issue is can he play a whole game and not get too tired and have to sit out or have a heart attack.

If he can get his endurance up then I bet he's the RT. Although I'll agree I'm setting myself up for perhaps a big disappointment. I think the left side of the line is stablized now that Dockery is back. My concerns are Rahbach being perhaps too small weight wise and squating too low for JC. Hopefully Thomas comes back healthy which means the right guard position is in good shape. Then RT.

I could see 1. Samuals, Dockery, Jansen, Thomas, Williams. or 2. Samuels, Dockery, Jansen, Bridges, Williams. In the second cenario the O-line would be hard to push around with the weight of the O-line simply by adding Bridges who is over 300 lbs also.

I put Jansen at Center cause his lateral movement has been declining, and cause of what the team said about his ass being higher for JC to be able to stand taller behind center. Plus I think he's probably heavier then Rahbach. I could be wrong though.

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[quote=freddyg12;551927]It seems to me to be an evolution of the fan base & a growing resentment towards the way the team operates. I know there are some mods on this site that have a better idea, or could crunch some comparisons of past April/post draft threads, but it seems to me that most post draft threads in the past were positive until maybe last year.

I remember so much hope on this site for guys like [B]Molinaro, McCune & Broughton[/B]. I don't see that as much now for Glenn, Henson, Mitchell et al.[/quote]
Well those guys suck. Guys Like Golston, Montgomery, Horton, and Moore, have been great picks and Vinny got a lot of shit for picking them. Don't forget Doughty and Blades. Biggest problem with our draft is we give to many picks away, not the way Vinny picks.

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"I know I’m built for this game, no matter what. I can go out and do something else, but I’m made to hit people. So that’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to hit them hard and hit them often.”

I'm going to remember this quote.

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looks like the RT spot just got a lil thinner. jansen has been cut saving 900k . . .i really like jansen, stuck up for ramsey played with 2 broken hands . . . man was a hog but time and injuries take their toll . .

go skins!!

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I'm rooting for M.Williams to work out. I love following his weight loss and his work-ethic. Seems like a nice guy. But I was just reading up about him to see why a #4 pick went jobless. It's probably posted before, but here is a good article from April to remind us about his ankle and chronic back problems which sidelined him, missing 3-5 games each season. I'd hate to get our hopes up too much, and pin our season on his back.. Let's hope Heyer and possibly Bridges can both bring starter-caliber talent to the table.

[quote]"[Mike William's] second year was marred by an ankle injury that hobbled him for most of the season, forcing him to miss three games. He skipped voluntary mini-camps in 2004 for "personal reasons" and was fined for an unexcused absence in training camp. He started only five of the nine games he played before he was sidelined by a back injury during his final season, losing his job to a converted tight end."
...

"I don't know if he can be considered the biggest bust in Bills history, but he's close," John Murphy, the Bills radio analyst during Williams' tenure, said the other day over the telephone.

Williams signed to play with the Jacksonville Jaguars but spent the 2006 season on injured reserve with a bad back. The Oakland Raiders showed interest in signing him for 2007 but the back ached too much. He could no longer bend over. There was surgery for a herniated disk. His NFL career appeared over.
[/quote]

Reference (sorry i can't post links yet):
"dallasnews-dot-com" /sharedcontent /dws /spt /stories /042309dnspowilliams. 3738cd0. h-t-m-l

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Good article on his diet here

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/01/AR2009060103217.html]washingtonpost.com[/url]

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[quote=backrow;559828]Yes! 385 Lbs. as of 5-27-09.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Williams_Plays__Weight__ing_Game_37086.jsp]Williams Plays 'Weight'-ing Game[/url][/quote]

ok theres being a fan and then theres being a creepy obssesed pshycho. do you really follow the players weight?

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[quote=sevier2;561626]ok theres being a fan and then theres being a creepy obssesed pshycho. do you really follow the players weight?[/quote]

What's wrong with a rooting for a big overweight player from your team who's trying to get into shape? With so many people being overweight in this country, it's good to see an example of someone who's busting his ass to get into shape.

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[quote=sevier2;561626]ok theres being a fan and then theres being a creepy obssesed pshycho. do you really follow the players weight?[/quote]

Haha, that doesn't mean he is into him or anything. Have you been under a rock? We signed M.Williams and we need him to lose a ton of weight to play on our O-line. Yes the same o-line which sucked donkey d*** all of last season.

Williams was once a 1st round pick and now gets injuries because of his weight, therefore as any fan who is following a player's development would follow Williams weight, as that is the primary factor determines Williams ability to contribute to our line.

William contributes->we have a better chance to protect JC->JC throws TDs->we make the playoffs.


I could spell it out for you....

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[quote=SmootSmack;561117]Good article on his diet here

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/01/AR2009060103217.html"]washingtonpost.com[/URL][/quote]

Like it or not this is going to be our starting RT. Personally I love his story. Would be interesting to see how much weight Redskin fans loose compared to other teams this season. Either way wouldn't be surprised to see a fan get motivated by Big Mikes progress.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;561629]Like it or not this is going to be our starting RT. Personally I love his story. Would be interesting to see how much weight Redskin fans loose compared to other teams this season. Either way wouldn't be surprised to see a fan get motivated by Big Mikes progress.[/quote]

You never know with injuries(I hope not) or lack of production. I just want him to ball, and he might come in useful.

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[quote=hooskins;561628]Haha, that doesn't mean he is into him or anything. Have you been under a rock? We signed M.Williams and we need him to lose a ton of weight to play on our O-line. Yes the same o-line which sucked donkey d*** all of last season.

Williams was once a 1st round pick and now gets injuries because of his weight, therefore as any fan who is following a player's development would follow Williams weight, as that is the primary factor determines Williams ability to contribute to our line.

William contributes->we have a better chance to protect JC->JC throws TDs->we make the playoffs.


[B]I could spell it out for you....[/B][/quote]

Zing! :laughing2

[quote=Dirtbag359;561629]Like it or not this is going to be our starting RT. Personally I love his story. Would be interesting to see how much weight Redskin fans loose compared to other teams this season. Either way wouldn't be surprised to see a fan get motivated by Big Mikes progress.[/quote]

Although not necessarily motivated by Mike Williams, I've lost 33 lbs. But I'm definitely rooting for him.

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Williams was often injured in Jacksonville, does anyone know if u was a RT or LT there ??

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[quote=sevier2;561626]ok theres being a fan and then theres being a creepy obssesed pshycho. do you really follow the players weight?[/quote]

As far as M. Williams is concerned there's nothing more important right now than getting his weigh down. We should be following it

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[quote=hooskins;561628]Haha, that doesn't mean he is into him or anything. Have you been under a rock? We signed M.Williams and we need him to lose a ton of weight to play on our O-line. Yes the same o-line which sucked donkey d*** all of last season.

Williams was once a 1st round pick and now gets injuries because of his weight, therefore as any fan who is following a player's development would follow Williams weight, as that is the primary factor determines Williams ability to contribute to our line.

William contributes->we have a better chance to protect JC->JC throws TDs->we make the playoffs.


I could spell it out for you....[/quote]


yeah your right.
did you hear santana moss is working on his burst off the line speed? we should start a thread on it. i heard hes chopped off .2 seconds!!!!

Moss gets a better burst->he beats the DB's->he's wide open down the field->he catches more touchdowns->we make the playoffs

I could spell it out for you...

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... You've obviously missed the point ...

If Williams doesnt lose the weight he likely doesnt start let alone play. Therefore his weight is pretty much the only thing to follow at this point. We've already been told his footwork is excellent for his size, so why wouldnt we be rooting for him to lose the weight that would allow him to play at the highest level possible.

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[quote=sevier2;561781]yeah your right.
did you hear santana moss is working on his burst off the line speed? we should start a thread on it. i heard hes chopped off .2 seconds!!!!

Moss gets a better burst->he beats the DB's->he's wide open down the field->he catches more touchdowns->we make the playoffs

I could spell it out for you...[/quote]

You're putting your last name to shame here

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[quote=sevier2;561781]yeah your right.
did you hear santana moss is working on his burst off the line speed? we should start a thread on it. i heard hes chopped off .2 seconds!!!!

Moss gets a better burst->he beats the DB's->he's wide open down the field->he catches more touchdowns->we make the playoffs

[B]I could spell it out for you...[/B][/quote]

Apparently you couldn't do this in your first post.

[quote=sevier2;561626]ok theres being a fan and then theres being a creepy [B][SIZE="4"]obssesed pshycho[/SIZE][/B]. do you really follow the players weight?[/quote]

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:lol: That's pretty good Ruhskins. :silly:

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Looking pretty good for 385

[IMG]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/williamssteinberg2.jpg[/IMG]

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^ If he doesn't start at RT, use him as a fullback on the goal line. :)

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according to the dc bog, looks like he still is working on playing with all of that weight. sounds minor, but all the same...

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/06/redskins_rookie_misses_plane.html]D.C. Sports Bog - Redskins Rookie's Plane is Canceled[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;561839]Apparently you couldn't do this in your first post.[/quote]

haha owned...