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didnt see that on the replay last night on sportscenter...but obviously hall cant jam randy moss on the line

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[quote=jdlea;582668]I would add Delhomme to that list. He somehow got an extension on the strength of an amazing running game and one of the best receivers in the game.[/quote]


I'd say its a toss up between Campbell and Delhomme...although Delhomme had one of the worst playoff games in history last year

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I just think "far worse" can only be reserved for Tavaris Jackson...those other dudes (Collins, Delhomme, Flacco) are on Campbells level or better in my opinon

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[quote=Jay Schroeder;582673]I just think "far worse" can only be reserved for Tavaris Jackson...those other dudes (Collins, Delhomme, Flacco) are on Campbells level or better in my opinon[/quote]

I can see where you're coming from (I'd include Delhomme and maybe Collins in the far worse category, but that's not a huge deal), but the fact remains that not every QB in the playoffs was better than Jason, so it's not like he couldn't lead a team to the playoffs. People who think, "we'll never go anywhere with Jason," history completely disproves that idea. Other things really have to fall into place, and that may be a lot to ask with a one running back system (essentially) that's based on a 28 year old running back.

That said, I think Jason is going to take a big stride this season. Playing with essentially the same group of receivers, in the same system, I could see him putting up some gaudy numbers and leading this team to 10+ wins.

It's true, I might be drinking the Kool-Aid, but I think this team has the potential to be as good as any in the league this season.

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[quote=jdlea;582676]I can see where you're coming from (I'd include Delhomme and maybe Collins in the far worse category, but that's not a huge deal), but the fact remains that not every QB in the playoffs was better than Jason, so it's not like he couldn't lead a team to the playoffs. People who think, "we'll never go anywhere with Jason," history completely disproves that idea. Other things really have to fall into place, and that may be a lot to ask with a one running back system (essentially) that's based on a 28 year old running back.

That said, I think Jason is going to take a big stride this season. Playing with essentially the same group of receivers, in the same system, I could see him putting up some gaudy numbers and leading this team to 10+ wins.

It's true, I might be drinking the Kool-Aid, but I think this team has the potential to be as good as any in the league this season.[/quote]

I agree with most of this myself

I think it can be done (wildcard berth)...I shit on Campbell at times, but I tend to over exaggerate

As our o line goes so goes our teams fortunes this year in my opinion

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;582632]Off topic but what did you guys think of that block that ol Favre threw? Stuff like that wins over a locker room IMO.[/quote]

I thought it was a great block. He didn't mean any harm by it. Farve was solid last night. Minn is going to be a very very tough team in the NFC.

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[quote=jdlea;582478]I think he will be either a TE or a pass catching full back. I do, however, think that the return of the single wing (wild cat) may find him a spot on an NFL roster as a "Quarterback." He could end up being a lot like Pat White, drafted to play run the wild cat/emergency qb spot and find a way to prove himself.

My biggest problem with him isn't that he can't throw. He's not overly accurate, but that's not as much of a headache as his need to be a power runner. Guys are bigger in the NFL and that's a good way to get injured if you're not big enough to take the kind of beating that would be required of a power back. I'm afraid if someone selects Tebow to play Q, they'll spend much of their time wondering how his throwing shoulder gave out so early.[/quote]

Tebow has NO CHANCE at being an NFL QB. None. He'd be a good guy to have on your team though. He could be a utility player and help out on teams, h-back, TE and maybe some wildcat.

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[quote=skinsfan69;582683]Tebow has NO CHANCE at being an NFL QB. None. He'd be a good guy to have on your team though. He could be a utility player and help out on teams, h-back, TE and maybe some wildcat.[/quote]

That's kind of what I was getting at. I was just saying that his passing, IMO, isn't the greater concern. Tebow seems to take pride in being a power runner and that'll get him killed in the NFL.

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[quote=SmootSmack;582651]Good post. Except I don't think Garrard and the Jags made the playoffs[/quote]

Sleep deprivation. I used NFL.com stats for 2008 playoffs and when my brain saw "Byron Leftwich" (throwing a few balls for PIT) I guess I just wrote Garrard. Doh.

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Q: Why does everyone around the league, and certainly here in the D.C. area, crush Jason Campbell when it's blatantly obvious that his mediocrity is not for lack of talent or his ability to make plays, but rather the organization's inability to have confidence in him? It seems that for some reason Jim Zorn touts this guy's arm and decision-making, but he refuses to call plays that allow him to show off either. Even under Joe Gibbs, Campbell was unable to showcase his ability, and is seemingly asked to simply not lose games rather than win them. Will this change for JC, or is he as good as gone after the season?

From Cory in Hagerstown, Md.

A: Jason is in a tough spot, but he can come out of this big if he takes the Redskins to the playoffs. It's pretty clear ownership doesn't believe he is a franchise quarterback. He was drafted by Joe Gibbs because Gibbs believed he could be a franchise quarterback. Gibbs is gone. I believe Jim Zorn is doing the best he can to get the right plays for Campbell to run. Campbell's accurate as a thrower. He needs to be more consistent with his leadership. But he also must do better in the red zone. The Redskins' offense should average 20 or more points a game. If Campbell does well, he gets a new contract. If he doesn't, the Redskins move on to the next quarterback. In the third preseason game, though, Zorn tried more of a play-action attack, which might suit Campbell better.


From Clayton's mailbag...I agree on the play action passing. If our line holds up and Portis and Cooley can consistently get us in 2nd and 3-4 yds. I dont see why we cant air it out consistently to Santana and the youngns (Kelly, Thomas) and put some points on the board.

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[quote=Ruhskins;582231][B]So you want me to blindly hate our team's QB and wish for a change thinking that this is going to change the team overnight?[/B]
Yes, I do remember Heath Shuler, and I don't know why you even bringing him up. I'm not saying taht JC is going to throw for 400 yds every single game and take us undefeated all season. But I think he's a solid QB that has gotten some shitty fortunes for the past couple of seasons. He's the best option at QB, and if the offensive line protects him we will see him make plays like he did when we went 6-2 last season. Our team is still a run-first team with a very good defense. We don't need Campbell to put the team on his back every single time, we just need him to be a good QB and this is the last season he has to prove this. If he doesn't, he's gone and the team can start from scratch. Until them, you'll see me defending him from the [B]JC-hating lunatics[/B], and praising him when he does well (which I hope happens a lot this season).[/quote]

To begin with, I don't know where you got the notion that I WANT you to "blindly hate" the QB, wish for change, or anything ELSE, for that matter. I have no expectation that you will alter your likes or dislikes based on anything I have to say.

Like you and so many others on this forum, I [U]merely express my opinions[/U], which can be considered and agreed with, disagreed with, discounted, or ignored. UNLIKE you and so many others on this forum, I resort neither to name-calling (see your comment in [2nd] bold above) nor ridicule (see another member's reaction to my JC/Shuler comparison on this thread dated 8-31), in response to another forum member's posts, regardless of how deeply the content of that post conflicts with my view. It seems to me that such practices are best left to the class clowns and schoolyard bullies of this world. That's not to say, however, that I won't directly respond, in a manner I deem appropriate, to those comments I find to be particularly offensive.

With respect to your remark about not knowing why I brought up Shuler, you may have overlooked my response - appearing four posts behind your current post directed towards me - to another member's inquiry, in which I attempted to clarify my previous comparison of the two QBs. Perhaps if you (and others similarly incensed) were to go back and read it, you might just gain a better perspective of my position.

I agree with you on a number of points that you brought up, however, the bottom line is, while you optimistically refer to the 6-2 record last season, the pessimist in me points to the 2-6 record. And as QB, JC assumes the lion's share of responsibility - for BOTH records, regardless of mitigating factors.

AGAIN, my assessment (which I recognize, in the grand scheme of things, is not worth a plugged nickle) of his overall ability to lead the team is not limited to the last half of last season and the first two games of this pre-season. I sincerely wish to see a winning season culminating with playoff appearances(s). I just don't think JC has 16 games of solid performance in him to sustain that effort.

However, I'll certainly join in with you in heaping praise upon him as circumstances dictate. Hopefully, that will occur frequently.

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[B]With respect to your remark about not knowing why I brought up Shuler, you may have overlooked my response - appearing four posts behind your current post directed towards me - to another member's inquiry, in which I attempted to clarify my previous comparison of the two QBs. Perhaps if you (and others similarly incensed) were to go back and read it, you might just gain a better perspective of my position.
[/B]

WoW, I kinda got lost in all this. LOL. But essentially I agree with you. :)

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[quote=SBXVII;582716][B]With respect to your remark about not knowing why I brought up Shuler, you may have overlooked my response - appearing four posts behind your current post directed towards me - to another member's inquiry, in which I attempted to clarify my previous comparison of the two QBs. Perhaps if you (and others similarly incensed) were to go back and read it, you might just gain a better perspective of my position.
[/B]

WoW, I kinda got lost in all this. LOL. But essentially I agree with you. :)[/quote]


I DO have a tendency to ramble.....

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[quote=beemnsevenspop;582697]To begin with, I don't know where you got the notion that I WANT you to "blindly hate" the QB, wish for change, or anything ELSE, for that matter. I have no expectation that you will alter your likes or dislikes based on anything I have to say.

Like you and so many others on this forum, I [U]merely express my opinions[/U], which can be considered and agreed with, disagreed with, discounted, or ignored. UNLIKE you and so many others on this forum, I resort neither to name-calling (see your comment in [2nd] bold above) nor ridicule (see another member's reaction to my JC/Shuler comparison on this thread dated 8-31), in response to another forum member's posts, regardless of how deeply the content of that post conflicts with my view. It seems to me that such practices are best left to the class clowns and schoolyard bullies of this world. That's not to say, however, that I won't directly respond, in a manner I deem appropriate, to those comments I find to be particularly offensive.

With respect to your remark about not knowing why I brought up Shuler, you may have overlooked my response - appearing four posts behind your current post directed towards me - to another member's inquiry, in which I attempted to clarify my previous comparison of the two QBs. Perhaps if you (and others similarly incensed) were to go back and read it, you might just gain a better perspective of my position.

I agree with you on a number of points that you brought up, however, the bottom line is, while you optimistically refer to the 6-2 record last season, the pessimist in me points to the 2-6 record. And as QB, JC assumes the lion's share of responsibility - for BOTH records, regardless of mitigating factors.

AGAIN, my assessment (which I recognize, in the grand scheme of things, is not worth a plugged nickle) of his overall ability to lead the team is not limited to the last half of last season and the first two games of this pre-season. I sincerely wish to see a winning season culminating with playoff appearances(s). I just don't think JC has 16 games of solid performance in him to sustain that effort.

However, I'll certainly join in with you in heaping praise upon him as circumstances dictate. Hopefully, that will occur frequently.[/quote]

My apologies for the name calling, I wasn't referring specifically to you when I mentioned that (although it appears I did a poor job on that). And I do appreciate your response to clear things up, and in turn I am doing likewise.

[quote=beemnsevenspop;582728]I DO have a tendency to ramble.....[/quote]

A lot of us tend to do that here. LOL.

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I'm looking forward to seeing more of Chase and Marko just to make sure they can continue playing at a high level.

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[quote=Ruhskins;582733]My apologies for the name calling, I wasn't referring specifically to you when I mentioned that (although it appears I did a poor job on that). And I do appreciate your response to clear things up, and in turn I am doing likewise.



A lot of us tend to do that here. LOL.[/quote]

Without wanting to appear as though I'm calling a time out for a group hug :-), no apology is necessary, as I DID infer that you seemed to be lumping me into that category. If you say that was not your intent, I certainly accept your explanation.

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[quote=beemnsevenspop;582763]Without wanting to appear as though I'm calling a time out for a group hug :-), no apology is necessary, as I DID infer that you seemed to be lumping me into that category. If you say that was not your intent, I certainly accept your explanation.[/quote]

Whatever was said, just pretend that it came from me and it will be all good. I can take it!

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;582765]Whatever was said, just pretend that it came from me and it will be all good. I can take it![/quote]

Yeah, Tramps the biggest troublemaker on this whole board.

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[quote=53Fan;582849]Yeah, Tramps the biggest troublemaker on this whole board.[/quote]

What's popping 53? :Smoker:

I missed the last half of the game. I did like the way we moved the ball. It's nice to see them throw the long ball again. How long has it been?

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;582858]What's popping 53? :Smoker:

I missed the last half of the game. I did like the way we moved the ball.[B] It's nice to see them throw the long ball again. How long has it been[/B]?[/quote]

Too long buddy.....too long. But there's a new tide rising. So get your board and we'll ride this wave all the way to the Super Bowl!

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[quote=beemnsevenspop;582763]Without wanting to appear as though I'm calling a time out for a [B]group hug[/B] :-), no apology is necessary, as I DID infer that you seemed to be lumping me into that category. If you say that was not your intent, I certainly accept your explanation.[/quote]

This is usually the time the CRedskins pulls this out...

:grouphug:

LOL.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;582765]Whatever was said, just pretend that it came from me and it will be all good. I can take it![/quote]

Tramps, I see from your location that you hail from Varina, Virginia....I've lived in the commonwealth for 60 + years and while I'm familiar with Vienna, Virginia, I've never heard of that town! Noting the close proximity of two certain consonant keys on the QWERTY keyboard, that wouldn't be a typo, would it???? :-)

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[quote=beemnsevenspop;582888]Tramps, I see from your location that you hail from Varina, Virginia....I've lived in the commonwealth for 60 + years and while I'm familiar with Vienna, Virginia, I've never heard of that town! Noting the close proximity of two certain consonant keys on the QWERTY keyboard, that wouldn't be a typo, would it???? :-)[/quote]

East End of Richmond.

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I was impressed with how JC played more than anything else. I admit I have been calling for his head the last few weeks. But his performance was very impressive. I only hope he can keep it up.

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Well if JC plays as well in game #4 we are going to have fun this year. Just hope that Thomas and Kelly bring it on also though. They are a big part of the JC equation.

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[quote=jdlea;582649]That's not what I was saying. I was saying that Tim Tebow acts as if he has to be a power runner and that's not a good thing. Regardless of his build, I don't think Tim Tebow could continue to run the way he does in the NFL and stay healthy.

Tebow will take far too many clean hits in the NFL because he's not particularly shifty and I think that will prevent him from staying healthy.[/quote]


Florida QB's don't make good pro Qb's anyway.

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I'll give props to zorn and jc, the gameplan worked and executed a lot better than usual; jc was still a bit slow in his reads, but the receivers were getting open more and campbell was a bit better with his placement.

Ready for week one.

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Me too, you can tell how much they have improved since the Balt. game. I was impressed with hoe Jason managed the game. Are running game will be are bread and butter this year.

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[quote=skinsfan69;582683]Tebow has NO CHANCE at being an NFL QB. None. He'd be a good guy to have on your team though. He could be a utility player and help out on teams, h-back, TE and maybe some wildcat.[/quote]

He can be a white Randel El.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;582923]Florida QB's don't make good pro Qb's anyway.[/quote]

WOW! nice way to paint such a broad stroke there man. So in the next 100 yrs nomatter what happens a UF QB will fail just because the ones to this point have? ND gave us Joe Montana, doesnt mean that it churns out great QB's each 3-4 yrs. Emmitt Smith came from UF,doesnt mean every RB that comes out of Florida will be a HOFer. Im not sayin Tebow will be great,but to say a player at a position will be a NFL bust because of where he came from is wrong.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;583138]WOW! nice way to paint such a broad stroke there man. So in the next 100 yrs nomatter what happens a UF QB will fail just because the ones to this point have? ND gave us Joe Montana, doesnt mean that it churns out great QB's each 3-4 yrs. Emmitt Smith came from UF,doesnt mean every RB that comes out of Florida will be a HOFer. Im not sayin Tebow will be great,but to say a player at a position will be a NFL bust because of where he came from is wrong.[/quote]

Name one good nfl qb from UF

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;583138]WOW! nice way to paint such a broad stroke there man. So in the next 100 yrs nomatter what happens a UF QB will fail just because the ones to this point have? ND gave us Joe Montana, doesnt mean that it churns out great QB's each 3-4 yrs. Emmitt Smith came from UF,doesnt mean every RB that comes out of Florida will be a HOFer. Im not sayin Tebow will be great,but to say a player at a position will be a NFL bust because of where he came from is wrong.[/quote]

A lot of people have done that with Hawaii quarterbacks...just sayin

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I wasn't impressed at all with our offense. I hope the Redskins show more offensive power when the regular season starts. Right now sportswriters are predicting a lot of 17-13 or 14-10 games.

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[quote=JLee9718;585426]I wasn't impressed at all with our offense. I hope the Redskins show more offensive power when the regular season starts. Right now sportswriters are predicting a lot of 17-13 or 14-10 games.[/quote]

It would be nice to see a more dynamic offense. But I don't care if we win 3-0 or 7-3 as long as we win.

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Well spoken Lotus, agreed.

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The way the Giants played, the Redskins should have beaten them easily. Collins should be in at QB.

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[quote=JLee9718;588923]The way the Giants played, the Redskins should have beaten them easily. Collins should be in at QB.[/quote]

*SIGH* Really?

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[quote=Paintrain;588975]*SIGH* Really?[/quote]

yeah! Colt could have played better then JC on a bum leg!:yeahright:bs:

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I was not impressed poor tackles and bad judgment! Zorn has this team playing with no fire they do not look like at team but individuals outside Defense that seems to be putting it together ...Where was Portis? i see a 9 -7 or 8-8 team again!!! If Skins go 10-6 it will be a miracle!

Sep 20 STL @ WAS W

3 Sep 27 WAS @ DET W

4 Oct 04 TB @ WAS W


5 Oct 11 WAS @ CAR L

6 Oct 18 KC @ WAS W

7 Oct 26 PHI @ WAS W


9 Nov 08 WAS @ ATL L

10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS W

11 Nov 22 WAS @ DAL L

12 Nov 29 WAS @ PHI L

13 Dec 06 NO @ WAS L

14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK W

15 Dec 21 NYG @ WAS W

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[quote=JLee9718;588923]The way the Giants played, the Redskins should have beaten them easily. Collins should be in at QB.[/quote]

Skin's could have won!! Dumb mistakes! Landry has a vendetta against Jacobs for him running over him cost 15 yards!!!

Jason and Randel el do not know when to trow the ball out of bounds ....

They played the Steelers and Pats in Pre Season with more intensity and fire!!! Zorn is to laid back in his ways!!

Bring Gruden!!