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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=WaldSkins;609924]Im a Tony Pike fan[/quote]
Pike had better get in the weight room and put a bed in there. He needs to get some meat on his bones. But he looks like a nice prospect. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
Pike, Ya, being 6ft 5 in and only weighing 227 lbs., thats a problem. He has the height, the mechanics, just needs to add about 15 more pounds of muscle, and he'll be prime for a chance. Guy can throw.......Plus, if he's tough, thats actually one of the most important aspects of a QB that alot of ppl overlook, toughness and intelligence.
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
Campbell and VY both suck. I would rather have Jeff Garcia.
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;611494]Campbell and VY both suck. I would rather have Jeff Garcia.[/quote]
Amen to that. Garcia may have a year left in him. That's one year more than Campbell or Young ever had. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
Than why isnt Jeff Garcia here then because Philly cut him?
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=skins89moss;611514]Than why isnt Jeff Garcia here then because Philly cut him?[/quote]
For the same reason we haven't drafted a OT in two years. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=skins89moss;611514]Than why isnt Jeff Garcia here then because Philly cut him?[/quote]
Because all three of the Brain trust are effing morons... |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=doughtydoubter;609947]im gonna say brady quinn, just because hes a pretty boy.[/quote]
You mean the guy that was benched for 2/17 Derek Anderson? |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=GusFrerotte;611531]You mean the guy that was benched for 2/17 Derek Anderson?[/quote]
Uh, its CLEVELAND. nuff said. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
I think Campbell for Young would be interesting
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
I would have to go with JC. Given their talents and abilities to command games, JC is the leader. I think that JC is better suited for a play action style offense that is not so RUN heavy (a la the Patriots).
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
Vince Young wouldn’t fit this offense. Of course I don’t know of any QB that does.
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
Watching MNF, and Vince is looking really good. Figured I'd give this thread a bump.
Right now I just don't know who I'd take. I wouldn't say Tennessee's WR's are any better or worse than ours. Our TE's are much better. But they have a nice O-line and Chris Johnson. At this point I'd say Young has a lot more upside, but I'd probably rather have Jason starting right now. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
Matt Leinert over Vince Young? I'm glad none of you are GM's;) Every other QB on that list are proven losers. Vince Young is now 22-11 as a starter. And tonight he proved he can make plays to put his team in a position to win games. Something none of those QB's most of you chose can't do.
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
what a great game mnf has not dissapointed all year, vince lead a pretty good job to end the game, he could pan out, i hope he does i really like the guy and think he has what it takes
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
Leinart can still be successful in this league in my opinion. Happy to see Young (with tremendous help from Chris Johnson) bounce back from all his issues and contribute.
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=Kalisto2010;629948]Matt Leinert over Vince Young? I'm glad none of you are GM's;) Every other QB on that list are proven losers. Vince Young is now 22-11 as a starter. And tonight he proved he can make plays to put his team in a position to win games. Something none of those QB's most of you chose can't do.[/quote]
Good post. 22-11 is pretty good. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=GMScud;629915]Watching MNF, and Vince is looking really good. Figured I'd give this thread a bump.
Right now I just don't know who I'd take. I wouldn't say Tennessee's WR's are any better or worse than ours. Our TE's are much better. But they have a nice O-line and Chris Johnson. At this point I'd say Young has a lot more upside, but I'd probably rather have Jason starting right now.[/quote] Man Young looked really good. I think getting to sit and learn the offense they for a couple of years must have really helped him out. Oh and how about the option being run a handful of times? |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=SmootSmack;629969]Leinart can still be successful in this league in my opinion. Happy to see Young (with tremendous help from Chris Johnson) bounce back from all his issues and contribute.[/quote]
Agreed. I felt bad for him with all he went through last year. He's doing a great job and looks like an impressive offensive weapon. In his young career, that's his 8th game winning drive in the 4th quarter or OT. Throw that up there with his 22-11 record... I'd say Tennessee has themselves a starting QB for a while. Good for VY. I loved watching him play at Texas. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=tryfuhl;629971]Man Young looked really good. I think getting to sit and learn the offense they for a couple of years must have really helped him out.
[B] Oh and how about the option being run a handful of times?[/B][/quote] Very few teams have the personnel to do it, but man, the Titans do it well. Their option is different from the 'Phins option. Tennessee does run action in one direction from the O-line, and then swings VY and Chris Johnson out in the opposite direction. It works nicely. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
Vince Young has won his last 8 starts. Does he look pretty playing QB? No, but he's fun to watch and he wins ball games.
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=tryfuhl;629971]Man Young looked really good. I think getting to sit and learn the offense they for a couple of years must have really helped him out.
Oh and how about the option being run a handful of times?[/quote] They were bustin 10 yards a run with the option tonight. Young had 73 yards rushing on only 11 carries. Chris Johnson is amazing. Chris Johnson's has benefited from the threat of Young running as well. In the four games since Young is back to starting Chris Johnson has rushed for 228yds, 135yds, 132yds and 151yds. I keep hearing that his Titans teamates feel VY has matured a lot sitting on the bench. Also that dealing with the death of his mentor McNair has changed him. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
Ive never been a VY fan but he looked pretty dang good tonight, Its good to see the coaches putting in plays that let him use his strengths. The option play was kickin A.
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
VY was awesome with a great Texas team in college . VY wins bottom line , if the Titans find another weapon at the skill positions , they could be tough in 2010 .
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
its all about winning in this league. that's why Young is miles ahead of Campbell. is Tenn. personnel better then Washington's? maybe? but Young knows how to make plays. Campbell does not. in this league its all about making something out of nothing
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=dmek25;629997]its all about winning in this league. that's why Young is miles ahead of Campbell. is Tenn. personnel better then Washington's? maybe? but Young knows how to make plays. Campbell does not. in this league its all about making something out of nothing[/quote]
I agree to an extent VY is a scrambling QB i can't name one scrambling QB that didn't make plays with their feet and his best weapon the RB will most likely be the next RB to rush for 2,000 yards yes before AP!!! All in all one attribute & one player JC doesn't have. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=JLee9718;614163]Vince Young wouldn’t fit this offense. Of course I don’t know of any QB that does.[/quote]
That's why it was ridiculous for fans to be calling for Fisher's head after the 0-6 start. He brought in Vince and changed their entire Offense to suit his abilities. We have an S for brains coach who insists on doing the same thing over and over again even though it clearly doesn't work. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=SmootSmack;629969]Leinart can still be successful in this league in my opinion. Happy to see Young (with tremendous help from Chris Johnson) bounce back from all his issues and contribute.[/quote]
CJ's stats have exploded since Young became the starter. It works both ways. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=44Deezel;630215]That's why it was ridiculous for fans to be calling for Fisher's head after the 0-6 start. [B]He brought in Vince[/B] and changed their entire Offense to suit his abilities. We have an S for brains coach who insists on doing the same thing over and over again even though it clearly doesn't work.[/quote]
well bud adams also publicly called for VY to start over collins so i dont agree with your assesment that fisher gets credit for bringing VY in but he does get credit for game planning and putting VY in the best scheme to be successful. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=budw38;629990]VY was awesome with a great Texas team in college . VY wins bottom line , [B]if the Titans find another weapon at the skill positions [/B], they could be tough in 2010 .[/quote]
as others have pointed out they do have chris johnson who is imo the best running back in the nfl right now. i'm pretty sure he is averaging over 6 yds a carry this year and that is a sick f-ing stat, and he should have over 2000 yds by the end of the season, the dude is a beast |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
So far it's been pretty smooth sailing for Young since he regained the starting spot. But I want to see how he bounces back from adversity on the field. What happens when he throws 2 INTs in the first half of a critical game at home and the fans start booing? How will he respond?
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
are you kidding? JC of course, both are comparable in terms of pure talent (VY might be a better rushing qb). However, when it comes to class and poise and just over all professionalism, Young doesn't hold a candle to Campbell
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=over the mountain;630230]well bud adams also publicly called for VY to start over collins so i dont agree with your assesment that fisher gets credit for bringing VY in but he does get credit for game planning and putting VY in the best scheme to be successful.[/quote]
Putting in VY when you're 0-6 was just as much about the business of football as it was winning on the field. The Titans spent a high 1st round pick on VY, and next year he's due for a HUGE pay bump. At 0-6, the season is basically lost. Here you have a backup QB who's a high first round pick and former rookie of the year/pro-bowler. Might as well see what he's got at this point after what he's been through. After watching him start 10 games, you can make a much more educated decision about what to do with him going into 2010. |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=Redskin Warrior;630138]I agree to an extent VY is a scrambling QB i can't name one scrambling QB that didn't make plays with their feet and his best weapon the RB will most likely be the next RB to rush for 2,000 yards yes before AP!!! All in all one attribute & one player JC doesn't have.[/quote]
It just kills me to think that a team that started 0-6 is probably in a better position than we after 10 games :frusty: but I wouldn't count AP out just yet he's one hell of a back too. If I remember right he was on track to pass the 2,000 yard mark in his ROOKIE season if it wasn't for his injuries. but AP has a QB who can put up his own share of yards this year, I wish we atleast had a QB or RB that could do put up good numbers consistently but I guess with our O-line that probably won't happen anytime soon :( |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
Punter Brett Kern has been the key. Plays with Broncos and they go 6-0. Now he's on the Titans and since they signed him Broncos are 0-4 and Titans are 4-0
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=SmootSmack;630430]Punter Brett Kern has been the key. Plays with Broncos and they go 6-0. Now he's on the Titans and since they signed him Broncos are 0-4 and Titans are 4-0[/quote]
No No No, there can't be any other punters mentioned ever, other than Hunter the Punter, he IS the end all be all of punting/ST excellence! :) |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=SmootSmack;630430]Punter Brett Kern has been the key. Plays with Broncos and they go 6-0. Now he's on the Titans and since they signed him Broncos are 0-4 and Titans are 4-0[/quote]
And they say that numbers never lie... :) |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=SmootSmack;630430]Punter Brett Kern has been the key. Plays with Broncos and they go 6-0. Now he's on the Titans and since they signed him Broncos are 0-4 and Titans are 4-0[/quote]
ahahaha the unknown secret weapon |
Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
I wouldnt take any of them. They all stink. Better to just draft someone fresh and start anew.
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Re: Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
[quote=Mattyk72;606832]If VY is even an option we're seriously F'd[/quote]
Well at least Vince Young can win games. He doesn't have the best stats but he gets the job done. |
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