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[quote=jsarno;617977]Peyton knows when to get rid of it, and he knows where all his wr's are at that very time. He's not afraid to let the ball fly after holding it for 1 second. I know it's a pipe dream, and I certainly have a man crush on peyton...but come on, you wouldn't give up all the picks next year for him? Especially knowing we will likely be uncapped?[/quote]

Nope for the simple fact that he is going to take punishment and he is 34 years old. I would like us to get a potential young Peyton Manning so we can enjoy a nice stretch of good football.

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[quote=jsarno;618234]What other "inside info" might you like to share?[/quote]


Shoot might as well throw Ramsey and Frerotte in the mix as well!!!!!!:)

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[quote=SmootSmack;618230]Isn't that what I said?[/quote]

My bad, I read it as "he is the back up to Gretzkys' son right?"

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[quote=saden1;618288]My bad, I read it as "he is the back up to Gretzkys' son right?"[/quote]

No worries

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[quote=saden1;618228]No...it's the other way around. Nick is the starter and Trevor Gretzky is the backup. Will Smith's son is also on that team though he hardly payed when I watched the game.[/quote]



Well, theres some serious star power on that team.........

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[quote=saden1;618223]No way!!!!! He can't pass for shit! They're hyping him like he's going to be Montana special. Of course UDub has Nick Montana (son on Joe Montana) [URL="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2009320682_uwfb10.html"]coming in next year[/URL]. I watched him play 6 weeks or so ago against here against [URL="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/football/poll/2009-super25.htm"]Skyline[/URL] and he looked [URL="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/varsitytimesinsider/2009/09/oaks-christian-skyline-bill-reddell-nick-montana-jake-heaps.html"]amazing[/URL] (21 of 32 passes for 258 yards and three TDs).[/quote]

Locker's numbers don't jump out at you this season and his two picks last week didn't help (but Oregon is on fire right now). Remember, this UW squad probably has the worst talent in the Pac-10 (aside from Wazzou) and they were coming off a 15 game losing streak before this year. I've seen a shorter delivery and improved field vision this season, with his work with Steve Clarkson (one of the best QB coaches out there).

Pete Carroll says he's the best QB he's ever faced at SC... that includes Aaron Rodgers, Dennis Dixon and Vince Young. Unlike Tebow, I think he's more than a glorified full-back... and he'll have a better pro career, imo.

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Use your draft picks for the offense line, forget drafting the QB for right now.
Pick up a vetran who has not yet started,

Eric Anige of the Jets, would be a possible fit for WC offense.

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Please visit "Save our Redskins (Fire Vinny)" on Facebook and become a fan! Join the movement to change the way OUR team is run!

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I vote Ryan Mallett

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[quote=Save our Redskins;618350]Please visit "Save our Redskins (Fire Vinny)" on Facebook and become a fan! Join the movement to change the way OUR team is run![/quote]

You only had to tell us once. Don't go spamming our board

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[quote=rydynsydwayz;618221]Well we don't have a 3rd rounder due to the Jarmon pick in the Supplemental draft. I'd like Bradford, McCoy, Locker, or even Clausen. Not sold on Pike's intangibles and the fact that he once became disinterested in football. That factor there would have him lose a tiebreaker to the aforementioned.

We desperately need to address the O-Line. Hopefully there is a new regime in place to make the decision on which direction to go at QB.

If O-Line is addressed in the early rounds, Personally, I'd try to decide on the best young vet to give a second chance to while rebuilding. Those that come to mind are: (R. Grossman, K. Clemens, K. Boller, T. Jackson, D. Carr, J. Harrington). All are 2010 free agents and I'd bet that one of these current busts turns out to have a decent career. The task will be for the GM to identify which one. Lets pray that Vinny is not making this decision.

If we draft a QB in round 1, we should attempt to sign an older vet, perhaps Charlie Batch or Jeff Garcia, depending which one fits the new coach's scheme.

Also, all of the Colt Brennan apologists on this thread need to relax. Once we get a real coach in here Brennan will be released or beat out in camp. I have inside information that informed me that ONE of the FEW reasons Brennen was kept was the fact that his Jersey sales were much more favorable to Chase Daniel's.

And yes that same person also told me that the sales had something to do with how female skins fans feel about Brennan's looks. This is a FOOTBALL TEAM not a FASHION MAGAZINE!

[B][I]Can't wait till the offseason! I truly believe that the owner will wise up and get some real people to run this team[/I][/B].[/quote]

I hope your right but what if there's no cap next year? I would have to think Snyder would try to buy a S.B one last time before he gives into the reality that he needs to hire a real G.M.

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[quote=Riggo44;618364]I hope your right but what if there's no cap next year? I would have to think Snyder would try to buy a S.B one last time before he gives into the reality that he needs to hire a real G.M.[/quote]

If the year is capless, there likely will actually be fewer free agents. Some people see it as a potential free-for-all but likely it will be the opposite.

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[quote=Lotus;618393]If the year is capless, there likely will actually be fewer free agents. Some people see it as a potential free-for-all but likely it will be the opposite.[/quote]

Well then, that opens the trade market.

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For 2010, I would go with Todd Collins or Jeff Garcia, have Colt Brennan as #2, and then sign another vet QB, maybe Kerry Collins if he's released by the Titans, perhaps even trade Jason Campbell for Kerry C. But definitely not Mark Brunell. Gibbs gave a #3 draft choice for Brunell when he was going to be released anyway. Other teams said they knew Brunell was washed up, but we had to get him.

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[quote=JLee9718;618421]For 2010, I would go with Todd Collins or Jeff Garcia, have Colt Brennan as #2, and then sign another vet QB, maybe Kerry Collins if he's released by the Titans, perhaps even trade Jason Campbell for Kerry C. But definitely not Mark Brunell. Gibbs gave a #3 draft choice for Brunell when he was going to be released anyway. Other teams said they knew Brunell was washed up, but we had to get him.[/quote]

Collins is old and slow and no better than JC, the other Collins is horrible (have you not watched the Titans? and they have an OL) Garcia and Brunnell are way past their prime.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;618424]Collins is old and slow and no better than JC, the other Collins is horrible (have you not watched the Titans? and they have an OL) Garcia and Brunnell are way past their prime.[/quote]

LOL what is that guy watching? Is he just an IDIOT!!! How and the f could someone say TC should be our starter next yr????? We would be just as bad, I guess some ppl just are cluless about ft ball.

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[quote=JLee9718;618421]For 2010, I would go with Todd Collins or Jeff Garcia, have Colt Brennan as #2, and then sign another vet QB, maybe Kerry Collins if he's released by the Titans, perhaps even trade Jason Campbell for Kerry C. But definitely not Mark Brunell. Gibbs gave a #3 draft choice for Brunell when he was going to be released anyway. Other teams said they knew Brunell was washed up, but we had to get him.[/quote]

Do you have a time machine to turn the clock back to 1998? Todd Collins? Jeff Garcia? Kerry Collins? Seriously?

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I predict that Marc Bulger is wearing the B&G next year. The Rams are looking for a scapegoat and there's a good chance that they will let him go in a youth movement. There also is a very good chance that we will be qb shopping. Put two and two together, and...

If we had Bulger, and a younger guy to groom behind him, that may not be too terrible.

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To tell you the truth, I don't really have too much concern over who the QB is next year as long as they make strides to fix the O-line. Remeber, even Slippin' Ripien had a good year for the Skins behind a solid line. We can address the QB situation another year. We need to build the foundation before decorating the walls.

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[quote=JLee9718;618421]For 2010, I would go with Todd Collins or Jeff Garcia, have Colt Brennan as #2, and then sign another vet QB, maybe Kerry Collins if he's released by the Titans, perhaps even trade Jason Campbell for Kerry C. But definitely not Mark Brunell. Gibbs gave a #3 draft choice for Brunell when he was going to be released anyway. Other teams said they knew Brunell was washed up, but we had to get him.[/quote]

So you're already giving up on NEXT season too?

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[quote=Buster;618550]So you're already giving up on NEXT season too?[/quote]

Yeah, I feel him though honestly I don't really feel we will be a super bowl contender anytime soon. It just might take 2-3 year just to fix and gel the o-line together not to mention FO problems. It's not that ppl are giving up it's until we make some changes my expections are lower 5-11, 6-10 seasons.

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[quote=Lotus;618522]I predict that Marc Bulger is wearing the B&G next year. The Rams are looking for a scapegoat and there's a good chance that they will let him go in a youth movement. There also is a very good chance that we will be qb shopping. Put two and two together, and...

If we had Bulger, and a younger guy to groom behind him, that may not be too terrible.[/quote]

Bulger would be a great pick up. I would consider us very lucky to get him. It should not take too much to get him. Mid round QB pick sounds like a plan as well.

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I would want to see Colt get a chance to battle who ever they bring in this off-season for the starting job.

Garcia would be a GREAT #2 QB....

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Ranking the current draft class at QB right now (preliminary work, includes underclassmen):

1. McCoy, Texas
2. Bradford, Oklahoma
3. Pike, Cincinnati
4. Clausen, ND
5. Lefevour, CMU
6. Tebow, Florida
7. Skelton, Fordham
8. Robinson, OSU
9. Locker, Washington
10. Hiller, West Mich.
11. Ja. Brown, West Virginia
12. Max Hall, BYU
13. Snead, Ole Miss

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This thread really depresses me when you consider that we traded a 1st, 3rd, and a 6th to get Jason. After busting out out Shuler, Ramsey, and Campbell, I don't want to see another 1st round pick wasted on a QB. Use any and all early picks to address the O-line. Regardless of who we bring in at QB, their chances will be much, much better if we upgrade the line to protect the QB.

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[quote=GTripp0012;618724]Ranking the current draft class at QB right now (preliminary work, includes underclassmen):

1. McCoy, Texas
2. Bradford, Oklahoma
3. Pike, Cincinnati
4. Clausen, ND
5. Lefevour, CMU
6. Tebow, Florida
7. Skelton, Fordham
8. Robinson, OSU
9. Locker, Washington
10. Hiller, West Mich.
11. Ja. Brown, West Virginia
12. Max Hall, BYU
13. Snead, Ole Miss[/quote]

Skelton cracked your top 10. Finally!! Someone else sees the light.

I like Robinson. Will be fun to watch Robinson vs. McCoy tomorrow

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[quote=SmootSmack;618772]Skelton cracked your top 10. Finally!! Someone else sees the light.

I like Robinson. Will be fun to watch Robinson vs. McCoy tomorrow[/quote]Robinson has good deep ball accuracy, but I don't see the complete package there.

It will be very telling to get him on the same field as McCoy.

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Whomever it is, we should be looking in the late rounds....The 1st and 2nd round picks need to go OT & or OG Snead might last until Round 4

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[quote=GTripp0012;618774]Robinson has good deep ball accuracy, but I don't see the complete package there.

It will be very telling to get him on the same field as McCoy.[/quote]

I think losing Bryant has made Robinson a better QB, or allowed him to show his skills. He's really spreading the ball around. McCoy is totally locked in on Shipley, and I mean why wouldn't he be

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I still say pike has the best chance, robinson is good, jared brown i'm unsure on i'm a big WVU fan, and he'll have one great game then a mediocre game. one thing is for sure snead is gonna be a bust he has fallen like crazy this year can't handle the pressure. I feel bad for bradford he had good intentions coulda been playing in detroit this year but wanted to win a national championship, hopefully he recoverys from surgery with no complications

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[quote=SmootSmack;618782]I think losing Bryant has made Robinson a better QB, or allowed him to show his skills. He's really spreading the ball around. McCoy is totally locked in on Shipley, and I mean why wouldn't he be[/quote]McCoy hasn't needed to go elsewhere too often, but he's also so good at advanced pre-snap reads that he won't waste snaps. I think the guy is the total package, every bit as good as Matt Ryan coming out.

It seems like the NFL draft guys only want to evaluate players off of "pro-style" offenses, but in all honesty, by the time these guys are in their primes, the median professional offense is going to look more like a current college offense than what it currently does.

I just don't like that people (scouts) shrink the college quarterback universe to just include players from about ten offenses. I understand that there might be a translation factor from spread offenses, but I don't think there should be position scarcity at QB in the NFL, especially since every team only needs one.

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I love McCoy's toughness but is it me or does Jordan Shipley make him look good.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;618972]I love McCoy's toughness but is it me or does Jordan Shipley make him look good.[/quote]

Shipley makes him look very good.

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Colt McCoy

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[quote=GTripp0012;618724]Ranking the current draft class at QB right now (preliminary work, includes underclassmen):

1. McCoy, Texas
2. Bradford, Oklahoma
3. Pike, Cincinnati
4. Clausen, ND
5. Lefevour, CMU
6. Tebow, Florida
7. Skelton, Fordham
8. Robinson, OSU
9. Locker, Washington
10. Hiller, West Mich.
11. Ja. Brown, West Virginia
12. Max Hall, BYU
13. Snead, Ole Miss[/quote]

Sorry, I just had to say.........If you think that Snead is the 13th best NFL QB prospect out of that group, you gotta set the fuckin pipe down m8. Now slowly back away from the crack cocaine............

Hiller, better than Snead......really? Seriously, really???????

McCoy, better translation to the NFL than, shit, the next 4 guys you have listed????? Really guy?????? No, really????

hehehehehe

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(preliminary work, includes underclassmen):

I must have missed that. This list must be VERY preliminary, like, fucking Pop Warner preliminary........

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Well, you know, at least Ryan Leaf had a decent college season.

In all honesty, Snead probably shouldn't be on a pro prospects list. He probably won't make my next one.

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6. Tebow, Florida

The current line is in shambles and it is unlikely that FO will fix it as it has been ingnored for years. And DS will not spend a #1 on an OFFLineman.
Not enough payback in marketing sales. (That's just an opinion)

But if the CAP is removed for 2010, JC might still be around.

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[quote=warpaint;617264]Bradford if his stock falls far enough. would should try CB5[/quote]

Couldn't agree with you anymore.

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Robinson didn't look too sharp tonight. Not all his fault though

Clausen on the other hand...