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[quote=maroonandblack30;626647]Once again...have you watched a single Redskins game this year?[/quote]

I'll answer that for RacistLegend, since he won't...

Other than the Giants game and the Philly game, the Skins and Saints have played pretty much at the same times this year. So if RacistLegend has been watching his beloved Saints, he has not seen the Redskins.

Therefore all of his arguments about Portis are a matter of talking out of his ass because he hasn't seen the games that we have.

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626670]Still haven't answer the question....I question whether or not you have even seen him play this year.

But yes, I have watched every game/carry/yard of CP's career in DC

I am far from a pessimist....I see the good that Betts could do for the team if the organization stops cow towing to CP because he has a bloated contract.

he is 28 by the way, with a ton of injuries piling up, thats far from "in his prime" by NFL running back standards.[/quote]

lol in 8 years betts has had more than his fair share of chances

betts has averaged 4.1 yards per carry over his career of 8 years....but nearly every average goes down over a longer sample size....thats just how things work.......so why is portis still averaging 4.5 yards per carry after carrying the ball nearly 1400 more times?

because he is better

betts is at the age in which people start to think running backs go downhill......portis is at his prime and is capable of carrying your team.....but he cant do that when hes only getting 15 carries per game

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[quote=CantonLegend;626680]lol in 8 years betts has had more than his fair share of chances

betts has averaged 4.1 yards per carry over his career of 8 years....but nearly every average goes down over a longer sample size....thats just how things work.......so why is portis still averaging 4.5 yards per carry after carrying the ball nearly 1400 more times?

because he is better

betts is at the age in which people start to think running backs go downhill......portis is at his prime and is capable of carrying your team.....but he cant do that when hes only getting 15 carries per game[/quote]

Serious question. Are you related to Portis?

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626670]Still haven't answer the question....I question whether or not you have even seen him play this year.
[/quote]

for some reason i have to answer this question? of course......why would i be on a redskins forum, talking redskins football without at least adequate information to back up my statements?

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[quote=over the mountain;626675]canton legend - running backs endure alot of wear and tear. of course portis was a great top 5 back for awhile in this league and was by far our best offensive player for years. we know that.

but portis has over 2,000 carries now, injuries are stacking up, bone spurs dont just go away to my kowledge, and he rarely practices for years now.

when turner hits 2,000 carries i doubt he will be just as explosive as he is now. at 300 plus carries a year, turner will need more than 4 straight seasons of 300 plus carries before he is near portis' current wear and tear of 2,100 somethin carries.

lol, in 4 - 6 years do you think turner will still be a top 5 or 10 runningback in this league? add in turner will probably not even finish at least one of those years b/c of season ending injury.[/quote]

im not sure what you are trying to get at......you are saying that michael turner wont be as good as portis or you are saying that he isnt as good now as portis was then?

im not sure what you're trying to say

i know one thing....there arent many backs in the league that are asked to carry their teams anymore......portis is one of the very few and hes one of the very few that is actually capable of doing it on a consistant basis

as for the other post....i wasnt trying to call anyone out....just trying to point out how stupid asking someone if they've seen a game actually is

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[quote=12thMan;626682]Serious question. Are you related to Portis?[/quote]

nope......seen my fair share of unreasonable hating on players

ive done my fair share of bashing players without a good reason.....ive been in the trenches begging teams to get rid of players because they are washed up.....usually its a symptom of a losing season.....and im big enough to admit that

the saints are very good at losing and the fans are very good at callin out players.....but they are also very good at supporting the team

most saints fans are big enough to stand up and admit that losing brings out the worst in people......unfortunately you guys arent......and i completely understand....the redskins have a rich, proud history and losing is fairly new....but get over it.....you guys will rebound and portis will carry you guys once again

thank god the coach doesnt listen to the fans.......oh wait

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[quote=CantonLegend;626680]lol in 8 years betts has had more than his fair share of chances

betts has averaged 4.1 yards per carry over his career of 8 years....but nearly every average goes down over a longer sample size....thats just how things work.......so why is portis still averaging 4.5 yards per carry after carrying the ball nearly 1400 more times?

because he is better

betts is at the age in which people start to think running backs go downhill......portis is at his prime and is capable of carrying your team.....but he cant do that when hes only getting 15 carries per game[/quote]

The only time Betts had a legit opportunity to be the feature back he ripped off 5 straight 100 yard games.

But this thread isn't about Betts, its about Portis...

I just don't see how you are drawing the conclusion that Portis can "carry the team" what has he shown this year to prove that? On the best run of his career he couldn't even score with one man to beat and a blocker in front. Name on other top 5 back that does that?

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626689]The only time Betts had a legit opportunity to be the feature back he ripped off 5 straight 100 yard games.

But this thread isn't about Betts, its about Portis...

I just don't see how you are drawing the conclusion that Portis can "carry the team" what has he shown this year to prove that? On the best run of his career he couldn't even score with one man to beat and a blocker in front. Name on other top 5 back that does that?[/quote]

how about rather than blaming that on portis, giving the credit to the defender.....thats where you are a pessimist......its portis' fault because he didnt score on a GREAT RUN......be happy he put your team in a position to score.....dont hate him because the blocker couldnt block or the defender made a fantastic play

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626689]The only time Betts had a legit opportunity to be the feature back he ripped off 5 straight 100 yard games.

But this thread isn't about Betts, its about Portis...

[B]I just don't see how you are drawing the conclusion that Portis can "carry the team" what has he shown this year to prove that?[/B] On the best run of his career he couldn't even score with one man to beat and a blocker in front. Name on other top 5 back that does that?[/quote]

He's arguing that based on past stats. He hasn't seen the games this year.

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[quote=Lotus;626693]He's arguing that based on past stats. He hasn't seen the games this year.[/quote]

I strongly believe that he hasn't seen a single Redskins game...not going to call him a liar, but im just saying.

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[quote=CantonLegend;626685]im not sure what you are trying to get at......you are saying that michael turner wont be as good as portis or you are saying that he isnt as good now as portis was then?

im not sure what you're trying to say

[/quote]

my point was pretty clear. runningbacks decline alot quicker than other positions. portis has over 2100 carries. just imagine what turner is going to look like in 2014 when he might be close to 2000 carries.

the 2006 portis was a top 5 top 10 runningback. the 2009 and 2010 portis is not.

the 2009 turner is a top 5 top 10 runningback. the 2013 and 2014 turner will not.

it seems your stuck on thinking the portis now is the same one who put up 1500 yd seasons. hes not.

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[quote=CantonLegend;626692]how about rather than blaming that on portis, giving the credit to the defender.....thats where you are a pessimist......its portis' fault because he didnt score on a GREAT RUN......be happy he put your team in a position to score.....dont hate him because the blocker couldnt block or the defender made a fantastic play[/quote]

I do wonder if you have watched Portis this year and last. CP can pile up numbers, but he can't hit a home run ball. I don't have stats/numbers/links, but I feel confident in saying CP has often been caught from behind, or steps out rather than bull through at the end of a long run. And this year he really had a lot of difficulty running up the back of his blocker when a hole was open that he missed.

I like Zorn's approach, telling CP he is the starter, if and when he practices a full week. Hopefully Betts sees it as his chance to get more playing time, and if and when CP is practicing full tilt, then he is the better back.

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[quote=CantonLegend;626692]how about rather than blaming that on portis, giving the credit to the defender.....thats where you are a pessimist......its portis' fault because he didnt score on a GREAT RUN......be happy he put your team in a position to score.....dont hate him because the blocker couldnt block or the defender made a fantastic play[/quote]

Dude, come on....seriously? Sellers busted his ass getting down the field and actually made 2 blocks before that....In MY OPINION a top 5 running back cuts behind Sellers block and scores easily. And dude seriously, I don't "hate" anyone...geese.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWBnl6ZyiY]YouTube - Clinton Portis 78 Yard Rush against Kansas City Chiefs HD[/ame]

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[quote=CantonLegend;626692]how about rather than blaming that on portis, giving the credit to the defender.....thats where you are a pessimist......its portis' fault because he didnt score on a GREAT RUN......be happy he put your team in a position to score.....dont hate him because the blocker couldnt block or the defender made a fantastic play[/quote]

On that run ninety percent of the running backs in this league cut it back the other way and score a touchdown. Portis wasn't scrutinzed as much because, well, it was a 78 yard run.

But it's clear you either have a bone to pick about Portis or you just flat out don't what you're talking about. It's one or the other. Don't give me this crap about coming to another fan site defending Clinton Portis' honor. Your argument is based 100% on what Portis has done in the past, not what he's done this year.

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626699]Dude, come on....seriously? Sellers busted his ass getting down the field and actually made 2 blocks before that....In MY OPINION a top 5 running back cuts behind Sellers block and scores easily. And dude seriously, I don't "hate" anyone...geese.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWBnl6ZyiY]YouTube - Clinton Portis 78 Yard Rush against Kansas City Chiefs HD[/url][/quote]

i gotta go to work so i'll address everyone else later but its clear the the fullback couldnt maintain the block downfield

he lost his footing and the defender made a great play in the open field with more defenders in persuit

portis could have cut back, if he wanted to trip over his blocker or get caught from behind waiting for his blocker to get further downfield.....but he didnt.....he didnt have the opportunity to cut back because he had caught up with his blocker so fast and there were defenders behind him

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[quote=CantonLegend;626704]i gotta go to work so i'll address everyone else later but its clear the the fullback couldnt maintain the block downfield

he lost his footing and the defender made a great play in the open field with more defenders in persuit

portis could have cut back, if he wanted to trip over his blocker or get caught from behind waiting for his blocker to get further downfield.....but he didnt.....he didnt have the opportunity to cut back because he had caught up with his blocker so fast and there were defenders behind him[/quote]

LOL!! Dude, whoever you are, you're funny as hell. I swear guys, this is Clinton Portis in disguise! Remember I called it Warpath!

See ya later CP! LOL!

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[quote=12thMan;626706]LOL!! Dude, whoever you are, you're funny as hell. I swear guys, this is Clinton Portis in disguise! Remember I called it Warpath!

See ya later CP! LOL![/quote]

Canton is going to work, so it can't possibly be Portis.

Bah-zing!

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I love it how CantonLegend says he'll be back to "address" everyone! Wha a riot. LOL What are you getting paid to "address" us now! LOL..Mods please don't close this thread. If nothing else, I can run up post count talking to this cat. hahaha

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[quote=CantonLegend;626704]i gotta go to work so i'll address everyone else later but its clear the the fullback couldnt maintain the block downfield

he lost his footing and the defender made a great play in the open field with more defenders in persuit

portis could have cut back, if he wanted to trip over his blocker or get caught from behind waiting for his blocker to get further downfield.....but he didnt.....he didnt have the opportunity to cut back because he had caught up with his blocker so fast and there were defenders behind him[/quote]

Thats your opinion...thats fine. A lot of others would disagree.

Hey man, it was a 78 yard run, its a good run no matter what, Im just saying a top 5 RB scores on that 99% of the time.

Sellers made the block that sprung CP at the point of attack and hustled his ass down field, can't knock 45.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;626707]Canton is going to work, so it can't possibly be Portis.

Bah-zing![/quote]

True, true..maybe it's Vinny.

thank you and good night.

LOL

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do me a favor and dont "address" me later. your absolutism and insistence that your view is right makes for a boring self-centered conversation.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;626707]Canton is going to work, so it can't possibly be Portis.

Bah-zing![/quote]

hahaha...thats a good one.

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Guys, we're wasting our time. It's great entertainment though. No way in HELL will a fan of another team visit another fan site, invited or not, and is SO adament about a running back who's clearly on the slide.

Think about it, how many of us go to the Giants site and stick up for Brandon Jacobs or Miami's site and stick up for Ricky Williams? I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm getting a kick out of CL.

Hey, CL what time are you off work man? LOL

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[quote=12thMan;626716]Guys, we're wasting our time. It's great entertainment though. No way in HELL will a fan of a another team visit another fan site, invited or not, and is SO adament about a running back who's clearly on the slide.

Think about it, how many of us go to the Giants site and stick up for Brandon Jacobs or Miami's site and stick up for Ricky Williams? I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm getting a kick out of CL.

Hey, CL what time are you off work man? LOL[/quote]

The only reason he is so adamant is because he can't admit when he is wrong. No point in talking to the dude because he's really just talking to himself. He's the king of conversational masturbation.

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[quote=Lotus;626721]The only reason he is so adamant is because he can't admit when he is wrong. No point in talking to the dude because he's really just talking to himself. He's the king of conversational masturbation.[/quote]

Exactly...he is just invested in his arguement. But I do question why he is such a strong CP supporter even though he is a Saints fan.

:rolleyes:

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626729]Exactly...he is just invested in his arguement. But I do question why he is such a strong CP supporter even though he is a Saints fan.

:rolleyes:[/quote]

We should all go to the Saints forum and ask why isn't Reggie Bush getting more carries.

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This would be so funny if that is actually Clinton Portis. Wanna know something seriously funny? THe "official clinton portis" facebook page tried to add me as a friend...

I don't think that CantonLegend is a racist as somebody accused, but his statements were controversial, like blacks are genetically faster, etc...thats too funny

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626661]Im not hating...I don't think he is good, thats my observation from watching every game of his Redskins career. Just my opinion, but I think its shared by others with way more knowledge of the game.

Im not going to argue that he has put up good numbers in his career, I just think he is done being productive.

I don't get the whole "he is hurt" arguement....he has been hurt for the last 3 years....if he can't or won't prepare his body for an NFL season thats even more of an indication he should hang it up. Bottom line he just comes across as an entitled cry baby with a sub par work ethic....bad for the team.[/quote]


Hurt all the time! is Felix jones. He has burst, he has explosiveness but he stays hurt. Portis is not in that category. Glad Dallas got that glass man Felix. Anyway Portis is not what he used to be because he is more. He is a work horse and he is a good blocker. He will do what it takes for the team to win. We can get a new shiny toy RB in the drasft to go along with the work horse. Until a new explosive back proves he is a work horse, keep that old work horse chugging then plug in the new toy for excitement. I give Portis so much credit for becoming a Joe Gibbs runningback. You can take your WCO offense back to Seattle Zorn.

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I dont really think Portis is a Joe Gibbs running back. The Joe Gibbs runningback was a big bruiser, ala John Riggins.

I will give credit to CP for being a great blocker, but i think it's unfair to him to compare him to a Joe Gibbs runningback. Portis is a pudgy 220 pounds. he has looked really out of shape the last couple of weeks. Riggins i guess was a drinker and a smoker, a little out of shape but he still made the big runs....

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[quote=SolidSnake84;626731]This would be so funny if that is actually Clinton Portis. Wanna know something seriously funny? THe "official clinton portis" facebook page tried to add me as a friend...

I don't think that CantonLegend is a racist as somebody accused, but his statements were controversial, [B]like blacks are genetically faster[/B], etc...thats too funny[/quote]

A few years ago, didn't a college track and field teacher say something to that effect and got slammed for it? I hate those arguments. I don't remember if it was this message board or somewhere else where there was an argument going on about white players not getting a fair chance in the NBA. :doh:

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[quote=SolidSnake84;626731]This would be so funny if that is actually Clinton Portis. Wanna know something seriously funny? THe "official clinton portis" facebook page tried to add me as a friend...

I don't think that CantonLegend is a racist as somebody accused, but his statements were controversial, like blacks are genetically faster, etc...thats too funny[/quote]

The more I listen to this guy/gal, the more it seems like this isn't some random Saints fan that just wondered onto the Warpath. I mean, why? Okay, I get a Dallas fan or a Giants fan coming over stirring up shit or going to bat for one of our guys. I would still find it odd, but I get it. But a Saints fan? It's so random and out of the blue. Besides, how many Saints fans catch Redskins game to know one way or the other?

And what's up with the name CantonLegend? Is there one Saint in the Hall of Fame? Legend, when you're done practicing today can you tell us what inspired your screen name? LOL

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626699]Dude, come on....seriously? Sellers busted his ass getting down the field and actually made 2 blocks before that....In MY OPINION a top 5 running back cuts behind Sellers block and scores easily. And dude seriously, I don't "hate" anyone...geese.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWBnl6ZyiY]YouTube - Clinton Portis 78 Yard Rush against Kansas City Chiefs HD[/url][/quote]


[B]You gonna criticize a man after a 70 plus yard run?!!!!!!![/B] You just don't like Portis. You don't like him dressing up and getting attention and being happy and having a good relationship with the owner. That's not football related. I am loyal to Portis the man has been our work horse. I don't think being a free spirit warrants criticism of a 70 plus yeard run from scrimmage. [B]WOW!![/B]

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[quote=SolidSnake84;626731]This would be so funny if that is actually Clinton Portis. Wanna know something seriously funny? THe "official clinton portis" facebook page tried to add me as a friend...

I don't think that CantonLegend is a racist as somebody accused, but his statements were controversial, like blacks are genetically faster, etc...thats too funny[/quote]

The funny thing is that if CP actually had a username, I can totally see him chosing CANTONLEGEND. hahaha.

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Okay the feeling i'm getting from this thread is that people are pointing out the problems that Portis is now having, and how nobody wants to realize it. It isn't so much a "hating" on Portis. I think this all wouldnt be so bad if his attitude wasnt so bad. He's going downhill fast, but you can't feel bad for him because he is being an a-hole to people all the time.

These things we know as fact:
1)Portis has reached the point in his career where is breaking down (2,000 carries)
2)Portis doesnt have the breakaway moves or speed like he did.
3)He often trips, falls down, etc. behind the line of scrimmage.
4)Refusing to practice, there is NO WAY he develops any kind of rythym with the team.
5)His performance at this point does not justify keeping him and his insane salary.

Like i've said before. We can still get productivity out of him if we get somebody to share carries. I think that should be Betts, but i doubt Portis lets them do that.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;626736]A few years ago, didn't a college track and field teacher say something to that effect and got slammed for it? I hate those arguments. I don't remember if it was this message board or somewhere else where there was an argument going on about white players not getting a fair chance in the NBA. :doh:[/quote]

Jimmy the Greek famously got fired for saying such racially insensitive things.

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626670]Still haven't answer the question....I question whether or not you have even seen him play this year.

But yes, I have watched every game/carry/yard of CP's career in DC

I am far from a pessimist....I see the good that Betts could do for the team if the organization stops cow towing to CP because he has a bloated contract.

he is 28 by the way, with a ton of injuries piling up, thats far from "in his prime" by NFL running back standards.[/quote]

We tried Betts before, I give him credit, he has had a couple good games. But we have saw this movie before. It ends with Tampa Bay winning the game because Betts fumbled on his only carry. A carry with no other purpose than to run out the clock. No one's cow towing to Portis by letting him start. He has earned his starting position. You not making sense. You seem to think Betts has not been the starter because of pre[B][/B]ferential treatment for Portis? [B]Betts fumbled his behind to the bench, and you know it.[/B]

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[quote=SolidSnake84;626745]Okay the feeling i'm getting from this thread is that people are pointing out the problems that Portis is now having, and how nobody wants to realize it. It isn't so much a "hating" on Portis. I think this all wouldnt be so bad if his attitude wasnt so bad. He's going downhill fast, but you can't feel bad for him because he is being an a-hole to people all the time.

These things we know as fact:
1)Portis has reached the point in his career where is breaking down (2,000 carries)
2)Portis doesnt have the breakaway moves or speed like he did.
3)He often trips, falls down, etc. behind the line of scrimmage.
4)Refusing to practice, there is NO WAY he develops any kind of rythym with the team.
5)His performance at this point does not justify keeping him and his insane salary.

Like i've said before. We can still get productivity out of him if we get somebody to share carries. I think that should be Betts, but i doubt Portis lets them do that.[/quote]

I would add that Portis has missed many holes this year. His slowing down could be attributed to temporary injuries. But missing holes can't be.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;626740][B]You gonna criticize a man after a 70 plus yard run?!!!!!!![/B] You just don't like Portis. You don't like him dressing up and getting attention and being happy and having a good relationship with the owner. That's not football related. I am loyal to Portis the man has been our work horse. I don't think being a free spirit warrants criticism of a 70 plus yeard run from scrimmage. [B]WOW!![/B][/quote]

I said it was good run...ill give him credit for that.

DUDE, where do you come with this stuff? I don't like him dressing up and BEING HAPPY? WTF does that even mean? Are you high? seriously?

I will say that I don't thinks its good for the team/organization for any player to be best buds with the owner...its just a slippery slope. If Portis' personal friendship with Snyder is influencing how much playing time he gets, thats just a disaster. Portis just seems to get away with WAY more than most players.....so it makes me wonder.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;626747]We tried Betts before, I give him credit, he has had a couple good games. But we have saw this movie before. It ends with Tampa Bay winning the game because Betts fumbled on his only carry. A carry with no other purpose than to run out the clock. No one's cow towing to Portis by letting him start. He has earned his starting position. You not making sense. You seem to think Betts has not been the starter because of pre[B][/B]ferential treatment for Portis? [B]Betts fumbled his behind to the bench, and you know it.[/B][/quote]

I think all the guys on offense earned their jobs, but one thing i feel from this team, is that once somebody gets a spot, it is theres for the duration. For example, Campbell has always been the unchallenged QB, no matter what. No matter how bad he plays. Even Joe Gibbs knew to stick with Collins because he was the hot hand, even though Campbell had recovered from his injury for the playoffs.

Now Portis won't lose his job to injury, but really, Betts has outplayed him at this point. He deserves to finish the year. A 3-6 team that is going nowhere should at least get to play everyone so that they can see what they have roster wise.

We won't do that. It really is a sad state when injuries are the only way you get to see depth at a position. For Example; Campbell would have cost us the season in 2007 had it not be for his injury and then Todd Collins coming in.

in 2006 Portis got injured and Betts rattled off five 100+ yard games. This year is the same way.

I just hope after this year that everyone has to battle for a job...not just become an anointed starter.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;626747]We tried Betts before, I give him credit, he has had a couple good games. But we have saw this movie before. It ends with Tampa Bay winning the game because Betts fumbled on his only carry. A carry with no other purpose than to run out the clock. No one's cow towing to Portis by letting him start. He has earned his starting position. You not making sense. You seem to think Betts has not been the starter because of pre[B][/B]ferential treatment for Portis? [B]Betts fumbled his behind to the bench, and you know it.[/B][/quote]

Are you saying Portis doesn't get preferential treatment? What other player on the team could never practice and still start every game he is healthy? What other player could refuse to play in the preseason and still start? Marko Mitchell couldnt, Marcus Mason couldnt... He has a huge contract so of course he gets preferential treatment...most stars (or alleged stars) do to some extent.

Earned his starting position? I would argue the exact opposite. Betts has earned the starting position by being there week in week out practicing with the starting unit. A couple of redskin coaches seem to agree as well.