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[quote=LandrySlice;653487]I think Seattle might try and trade up with the 2 picks they have in the first. Carroll is not gonna want washed up Hasselbeck, so they are my favorite to trade, or SF maybe, but they seem content with Alex Smith.[/quote]

They may try to trade up. I doubt that they trade 2 #1's just to move up from #6 to #4, though. Following the trade value chart, they should toss us a 3rd rounder for swapping spots. I'd be cool with that.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;653474]WOOAAAHHh!! Were did you hear that Shanahan likes tebow, cause I sure didn't hear that, and me being a florida fan, I wouldn't want tebow here.

[B]Also you are completely wrong about Okung. He is almost a mirror image of ryan clady who shanahan drafted in his last year in denver.[/B] Also okung is a great run blocker, pass blocker and very athletic.[/quote]

Okung is said to have very good footwork. But he reportedly is significantly slower than Clady - a 5.25 40 vs. a 5.10 40. Shanny likes 'em fast. Therefore, instead of Okung, he may go for Bruce Campbell or Charles Brown or someone like that.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;653499]Don't forget the possibility that Carroll might trade for Leinart.[/quote]

If he can. If Warner retires, Leinart may lose his "For Sale" sign.

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If we had only signed Kurt Warner when the Gi Ants cut him, we wouldn't have to worry about a QB. But everybody thought he was over the hill, which he continues to disprove every game. So my choice would be five offensive linemen for the five draft picks we have...well, at least two OL's.

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Certainly not a 1rst round pick, but could be interesting for the later rounds. He's been invited to the combine so his stock may go up.

[url=http://life.atlantafalcons.com/topic/3876917-6-6-321lbs-ltrt-jared-veldheer-hillsdale/]6-8, 321lbs LT/RT Jared Veldheer Hillsdale - FalconsLIFE[/url]

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I haven't heard much of anything saying Okung has limitations...more like the most talented/gifted LT in years.

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[quote=The Goat;653540]I haven't heard much of anything saying Okung has limitations...more like the most talented/gifted LT in years.[/quote]

Supposedly he's not as physically strong as Joe Thomas or Jake Long, but that can be fixed in the weight room. Plus he has a mean streak....gotta like that!

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I think there are some concerns about Okung's ability/desire to get down and dirty (which is odd for a lineman), that his run blocking is a bit suspect and he's much more of a finesse guy

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[quote=SmootSmack;653582][B]I think there are some concerns about Okung's ability/desire to get down and dirty (which is odd for a lineman), [/B]that his run blocking is a bit suspect and he's much more of a finesse guy[/quote]

That[B] is[/B] odd. I've seen him drive guys to the ground and stay on top of them sometimes causing a little retaliation from the defensive player. And I've seen him knock guys 5 yards off the line of scrimmage. After the combine I imagine some guys will fall and some will rise though.

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Here's Walter's report on Okung. I would gladly take my chances with him at #4.

[url=http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010rokung.php]WalterFootball.com: 2010 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Russell Okung[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;653582]I think there are some concerns about Okung's ability/desire to get down and dirty (which is odd for a lineman), that his run blocking is a bit suspect and he's much more of a finesse guy[/quote]

Is this down and dirty enough for you
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzEsYTqGrJ4]YouTube - Russell Okung Cheapshot?[/ame]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;653597]Is this down and dirty enough for you
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzEsYTqGrJ4]YouTube - Russell Okung Cheapshot?[/url][/quote]

That is considered dirty? lol

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[quote=SmootSmack;653582]I think there are some concerns about Okung's ability/desire to get down and dirty (which is odd for a lineman), that his run blocking is a bit suspect and he's much more of a finesse guy[/quote]

Even if thats true, aren't we moving towards a more finesse style of run blocking?

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I guess everyone has seen this: [url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=At3P7fCnSMwDRaojJddIYO9DubYF?slug=tsn-mockdraftwithcollege&prov=tsn&type=lgns]Mock draft: With college season over, pro prep begins - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=Gtothearry;654985]I guess everyone has seen this: [url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=At3P7fCnSMwDRaojJddIYO9DubYF?slug=tsn-mockdraftwithcollege&prov=tsn&type=lgns]Mock draft: With college season over, pro prep begins - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

I like our pick there but overall that has to be the worse mock draft ever. Berry falling to #13 :yeahright

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Berry will be gone top 3. noway he falls out of the top 10.

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imo that mock is a joke. sorry

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;655229]imo that mock is a joke. sorry[/quote]

No, need to be sorry. It is a joke butttttt we get the OT. :goodjob:

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Ok, who is the 36th overall pick for the Skins? isnt it the 36th?

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;655233]Ok, who is the 36th overall pick for the Skins? isnt it the 36th?[/quote]

37th I believe

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ok, 2nd round choice. Who do you want it to be?

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;655237]ok, 2nd round choice. Who do you want it to be?[/quote]

Good question. Really good question.

I don't know how to make it happen but I want Charles Brown (LT), Bryan Bulaga (RT) and Jonathan Dwyer (RB). Somehow I'm not sure we are going to get all three.

I think Jahvid Best and CJ Spiller are both very exciting prospects, but I like Dwyer better than both of them at the next level. And he's actually the one player I most want in this draft. So maybe Okung in the first, Dwyer in the 2nd? If he lasts that long

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I could see Dwyer falling to the 2nd. I guess it depends on the needs that the Skins fill in FA. Many holes along the Oline need to be addressed when FA starts.

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Switching to the 3-4 creates needs on the defensive side of the ball, id love to see us land McClain to be the young leader of the defense but i know OT will be the priority heading into the draft.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;655242]Switching to the 3-4 creates needs on the defensive side of the ball, id love to see us land McClain to be the young leader of the defense but i know OT will be the priority heading into the draft.[/quote]

Suddenly my note last month about McLain possibly being a sleeper pick at #4 for the Skins doesn't seem as crazy...still I think it's unlikely they will take him so high

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;655242]Switching to the 3-4 creates needs on the defensive side of the ball, id love to see us land McClain to be the young leader of the defense but i know OT will be the priority heading into the draft.[/quote]

That is why I hate the move of forcing a switch to 3-4, when our defense is fine. The defensive coaching was more the problem.
Switching to 3-4 will create a lot more needs than we already have.
Stick with the 4-3 base, but switch to 3-4 on occasion to throw off our opponents. Give them more to prepare for.
Then draft lineman.
Not much to ask.

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Unlikely, dang it why does our Oline have to suck so bad :)
Couldve had Jr Ray Lewis -without the questionable past-

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I still dont want to see us draft Oline all the way. Id like to think they sign some in FA.

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[quote=Defensewins;655251]That is why I hate the move of forcing a switch to 3-4, when our defense is fine. The defensive coaching was more the problem.
Switching to 3-4 will create a lot more needs than we already have.
Stick with the 4-3 base, but switch to 3-4 on occasion to throw off our opponents. Give them more to prepare for.
Then draft lineman.
Not much to ask.[/quote]

I think that is more likely what we're going to do, at least this year. I really don't see us going to a 3-4 permanently quite yet.

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Knowing Shanny it could go
Bradford
Best OT available

or
Okung
QB prospect
RB in the 4th.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;655273]Knowing Shanny it could go
Bradford
Best OT available

or
Okung
QB prospect
RB in the 4th.[/quote]

I have a feeling your 2nd scenario is the more likely one

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Get Rabach outta here. draft or FA. idk

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I think the rams take Suh the lion take okung and the TB takes berry so I'd have to say the skins take Bradford

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;655276]Get Rabach outta here. draft or FA. idk[/quote]

Rabach is actually one of the guys I'm interested to see in this system.

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[quote=SmootSmack;655274]I have a feeling your 2nd scenario is the more likely one[/quote]

Please explain Mrs. (Allison) Dubois :D No seriously though, I thought Bradford was the more likely guy to go to us at #4. Colt McCoy right now seems like the only guy that would be worth taking with the 5th pick in the 2nd round. Tony Pike doesn't seem like a Shanahan QB. Dan LeFevour on the other hand seems like he would fit here.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;655343]Rabach is actually one of the guys I'm interested to see in this system.[/quote]Well, we've been running the system since 2008 and Rabach has been terrible. I don't believe he's been terrible in the system, necessarily, just in general.

I'm sure that Shanahan's offensive philosophy will change the way that some business is done up front, but the sweeping changes in the running game happened between 2007 and 2008.

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I thought this was a nice read. You have to go to the bottom where he does "Bottom line #2." It's about Bradford.

[url=http://www.thehuddlereport.com/huddlenotes/?p=129]Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma | HUDDLE NOTES[/url]

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Smootsmack I thought you may want to hear about your John Skelton at the East West Shrine game practices.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/12814898/risers-and-fallers-from-eastwest-shrine-practices]Risers and Fallers from East-West Shrine practices - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

Sounds like he and the other 2 QB's ain't doing so good

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[quote=SmootSmack;655274]I have a feeling your 2nd scenario is the more likely one[/quote]

I like how your feelings make me feel :oink:

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[quote=Redskin301;655335]I think the rams take Suh the lion take okung and the TB takes berry so I'd have to say the skins take Bradford[/quote]

Too premature to say this remember Jason Smith (I think) OT from Baylor went #2 overall before the combine & pro day he wasn't even a first round prospect. There be other studs that rise & i strongly believe some other overrated players will fall.