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[quote=Mattyk;654337]Wow dude, that's out there. You love a good conspiracy theory huh?

Do you think we really landed on the moon or no?[/quote]

actually i have my doubts about whether the first moon landing was legit or not. i've read very very strong arguments both ways. It certainly COULD have been faked, but that doesn't necessarily mean it didnt happen.

I do think the whole global warming thing is somewhat of a conspiracy, though. ;)

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Watch we're going to trade Campbell for a mid-round pick...and then use that pick to trade for Chris Simms...and then we'll all owe BHA an apology for laughing when he suggested we trade JC for CS

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[quote=Mattyk;654337]Wow dude, that's out there. You love a good conspiracy theory huh?

Do you think we really landed on the moon or no?[/quote]

I think it's obvious that Haynesworth was signed with money targeted for the "Space Program". Wasn't one of the astronauts who "supposedly" landed on the moon named [B]Armstrong[/B]? Who better to recommend AH than one of our very best offensive linemen? Uh-huh...that's what I thought.

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[quote=SmootSmack;654353]Watch we're going to trade Campbell for a mid-round pick...and then use that pick to trade for Chris Simms...and then we'll all owe BHA an apology for laughing when he suggested we trade JC for CS[/quote]

Isn't Simms going to be a free agent?

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[QUOTE="BigHairedAristocrat"]

actually i have my doubts about whether the first moon landing was legit or not. i've read very very strong arguments both ways. It certainly COULD have been faked, but that doesn't necessarily mean it didnt happen.

I do think the whole global warming thing is somewhat of a conspiracy, though. ;)[/QUOTE]

Not to get too sidetracked here but the moon landing conspiracy theories are entertaining at the very least.


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[QUOTE="53Fan"]

I think it's obvious that Haynesworth was signed with money targeted for the "Space Program". Wasn't one of the astronauts who "supposedly" landed on the moon named Armstrong? Who better to recommend AH than one of our very best offensive linemen? Uh-huh...that's what I thought.[/QUOTE]

Damn I forgot all about Armstrong... It's all making sense now

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[quote=SmootSmack;654324][B]Whoever hacked into BHA's account, just save yourself a ban and confess now[/B]




Perhaps. Or perhaps we keep Campbell and draft a QB to take over by midseason anyway. Or perhaps this all sets up the return of Meidt's recommendation from last year...Chase Daniel![/quote]

Holy cow, I totally missed his somewhat positive inspiration. :) LOL

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[quote=GMScud;654276]I would love that. He was really becoming a name at BC. That was total crap the way they fired him. Wasn't it the Jets job that he interviewed for? And then they canned him for it. How dumb. Isn't that what institutions of higher education are all about? You know, advancing in life?[/quote]

Exactly, but it doesn't help when BC seems to consider themselves the highest of high.....that doesn't sound right.

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Jason Reid on Redskins Insider is reporting Bobby Turner RB's coach has come aboard leaving Sherman Smith's position in doubt. Lou Spanos has taken the job as LB's coach replacing Kurt Olavadotti. (sp)

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[quote=Longtimefan;654397]Jason Reid on Redskins Insider is reporting Bobby Turner RB's coach has come aboard leaving Sherman Smith's position in doubt. Lou Spanos has taken the job as LB's coach replacing Kurt Olavadotti. (sp)[/quote]

Way to keep up Reid

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[quote=SmootSmack;654263]Two words...Jeff Jagodzinski[/quote]

This might be a decent pick. Plus he's available. Trained by A.Gibbs. The only thing that worries me is the comment about Tampa letting him go due to his inability to communicate with the plays to the players? WTF is that? He have a stroke or something? The good news is he's not that old either, 46.

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jagodzinski"]Jeff Jagodzinski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL]

[QUOTE[I]][/I]
[I]During his time with the Atlanta Falcons, Jagodzinski learned offensive zone blocking schemes from [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Alex_Gibbs"][COLOR=#002bb8]Alex Gibbs[/COLOR][/URL], the architect of successful NFL offensive lines such as the [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Denver_Broncos"][COLOR=#002bb8]Denver Broncos[/COLOR][/URL] that won [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXII"][COLOR=#002bb8]Super Bowl XXXII[/COLOR][/URL].[/I]
[I][/[/I]QUOTE]


[QUOTE[I]][/I]
[I]Jagodzinski was hired as the offensive coordinator of the [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers"][COLOR=#002bb8]Tampa Bay Buccaneers[/COLOR][/URL] on January 29, 2009 following the promotion of [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Raheem_Morris"][COLOR=#002bb8]Raheem Morris[/COLOR][/URL], who had been elevated to head coach following [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Jon_Gruden"][COLOR=#002bb8]Jon Gruden[/COLOR][/URL]'s departure.[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/#cite_note-3"][COLOR=#002bb8][4][/COLOR][/URL] On September 3, 2009, the day before the team's final preseason game, the Buccaneers announced that they had dismissed Jagodzinski from his role and replaced him with quarterbacks coach [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Greg_Olson_(American_football)"][COLOR=#002bb8]Greg Olson[/COLOR][/URL].[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/#cite_note-4"][COLOR=#002bb8][5][/COLOR][/URL] The firing came due to concerns about Jagodzinski's ability to communicate plays. Morris offered to let him stay on as quarterbacks coach, but Jagodzinski declined.[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/#cite_note-5"][COLOR=#002bb8][6][/COLOR][/URL][/I]
[I][/[/I]QUOTE]

Never mind I re-read the article and noticed he was the OC in Tampa during this time when he was fired for lack of communication skills. Some people are best suited to be coordinators. :)

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[quote=SmootSmack;654400]Way to keep up Reid[/quote]

I missed that. Surprised there wasn't a separate thread. Thanks for putting me wise, I'll look more carefully next time.

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[quote=Longtimefan;654403]I missed that. Surprised there wasn't a separate thread. Thanks for putting me wise, I'll look more carefully next time.[/quote]

No need. Lots of info in this thread, easy to miss. Wasn't trying to knock you...just Reid...unless you're one and the same

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[quote=SmootSmack;654249]Chris Meidt is staying...good news for Campbell fans I think. Not sure what his job will be but he might be the QB coach[/quote]
Glad to see that I guess.. not that I know his direct contributions but he seemed like a guy that should get a fair shot.. any word on Wachenheim?

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[quote=SmootSmack;654324]Whoever hacked into BHA's account, just save yourself a ban and confess now
[/quote]
hahahahaha

[quote=SmootSmack;654324]

Perhaps. Or perhaps we keep Campbell and draft a QB to take over by midseason anyway. Or perhaps this all sets up the return of Meidt's recommendation from last year...Chase Daniel![/quote]

Yeah who knows.. maybe Shanahan likes what he saw/heard from Meidt and wanted a role for him, we're not even sure of the role yet are we? I guess I'll have to look to see who helped develop QBs under Shanahan previously.

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[quote=SmootSmack;654407]No need. Lots of info in this thread, easy to miss. Wasn't trying to knock you...just Reid...unless you're one and the same[/quote]
I think that I'm the only one that likes new threads for separate news items.. looks good to new users, allows you to discuss that alone (until it gets hijacked to be about Campbell, Landry, etc) and whatnot

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[B]Chase Daniel? Isn't he a little short to be a stormtrooper... errr i mean quarterback?[/QUOTE][/B]

Now that's funny.

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[quote=SmootSmack;654186]From what I understand Smith is still a strong possibility to keep the ST job. April wants a lot of money. A looooootttttt[/quote]

Nooo. They absolutly need to pay April and get him in. There is not many really great ST's coach's and he's actually the best. One would think if Smith's unit got better every year then we are making progress and he should be retained but I can't say honestly that the team is getting better. The team averages to get to the 30yrd line everytime they touch the ball. Only 1 KR for a TD since his long tenure here.

I guess if we have no other option then we should just keep Smith cause for no other reason I guess he's consistant. But I think if this team is kinda in renovation mode and trying to get better it would be rediculously crazy to not to pick up April who is free for the taking right now. We don't have to ask anyone for permission. We don't have to come up with any cute titles to pick him up. Plus we hear all the time from HC's throughout the league about how ST's is such an important puzzle and we are going to sit back and go ...well, he's kinda expensive so maybe it's not that important. We would rather stay consistantly good vs. becoming great at an expense.

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Man I hope we can pick both Jeff Jagodzinski and April. Spending money hasn't been a problem for us before why would it be now. We should FULLY CLEAN HOUSE

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[quote=SBXVII;654441]Nooo. They absolutly need to pay April and get him in. There is not many really great ST's coach's and he's actually the best. One would think if Smith's unit got better every year then we are making progress and he should be retained but I can't say honestly that the team is getting better. The team averages to get to the 30yrd line everytime they touch the ball. Only 1 KR for a TD since his long tenure here.

I guess if we have no other option then we should just keep Smith cause for no other reason I guess he's consistant. But I think if this team is kinda in renovation mode and trying to get better it would be rediculously crazy to not to pick up April who is free for the taking right now. We don't have to ask anyone for permission. We don't have to come up with any cute titles to pick him up. Plus we hear all the time from HC's throughout the league about how ST's is such an important puzzle and we are going to sit back and go ...well, he's kinda expensive so maybe it's not that important. We would rather stay consistantly good vs. becoming great at an expense.[/quote]


I agree...but I doubt we get April, everyone wants him...and I think I read somewhere that he cancelled a meeting with the skins

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[quote=tryfuhl;654409]Glad to see that I guess.. not that I know his direct contributions but he seemed like a guy that should get a fair shot.. any word on Wachenheim?[/quote]

I think he's staying but I don't know for sure

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Alright so if I understand it, this is how the Skin's coaching staff is shaping up. Still they weren't kidding when they said they were going to find and assemble the best coaching staff they could.

[B]Head Coach:[/B] Mike Shanahan
[B]Offensive Coordinator:[/B] Kyle Shanahan
[B]Defensive Coordinator:[/B] Jim Haslet
[B]Special Teams Coordinator:[/B] Possibly Bobby April

[B]QB's:[/B] Chris Meidt (Holdover form previous regime)
[B]RB's:[/B] Bobby Turner (Also will serve as Associate Head Coach)
[B]WR's:[/B] Richard Mann
[B]TE's:[/B] Possibly Scott Wachenheim
[B]OL:[/B] Still looking

[B]LB's:[/B]Lou Spanos
[B]DL:[/B] Possibly Mike Waufle
[B]DB's:[/B] Bob Slowick (There will probably be another coach specializing in safeties or corners)

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[quote=diehardskin2982;654450]Man I hope we can pick both Jeff Jagodzinski and April. Spending money hasn't been a problem for us before why would it be now. We should FULLY CLEAN HOUSE[/quote]

Is Jagodzinski a solid lead or the result of people connecting the dots since he worked under Alex Gibbs?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;654463]Alright so if I understand it, this is how the Skin's coaching staff is shaping up.

[B]Head Coach:[/B] Mike Shanahan
[B]Offensive Coordinator:[/B] Kyle Shanahan
[B]Defensive Coordinator:[/B] Jim Haslet
[B]Special Teams Coordinator:[/B] Possibly Bobby April

[B]QB's:[/B] Chris Meidt (Holdover form previous regime)
[B]RB's:[/B] Bobby Turner (Also will serve as Associate Head Coach)
[B]WR's:[/B] Richard Mann
[B]TE's:[/B] Still looking
[B]OL:[/B] Still looking

[B]LB's:[/B]Lou Spanos
[B]DL:[/B] Still Looking
[B]DB's:[/B] Bob Slowick (There will probably be another coach specializing in safeties or corners)[/quote]

Is Mann an upgrade over Hixon? I feel DT & MK development will play a big part in our success. These guys need good coaching.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;654466]Is Mann an upgrade over Hixon? I feel DT & MK development will play a big part in our success. These guys need good coaching.[/quote]

Well anyone seems like an upgrade over Hixon but as others have pointed out he was able to get the most out of guys like Westbrook and Gardner. He also helped Antonio Bryant get to where he is today. I'm pretty sure you can also add Joey Galloway and Michael Clayton as a rookie to his list of credentials.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;654464]Is Jagodzinski a solid lead or the result of people connecting the dots since he worked under Alex Gibbs?[/quote]

Solid lead. Though he potentially has some better opportunities than line coach for the Redskins.

Add Tim Krumrie-DL to your list of possibilities too

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[quote=SmootSmack;654470]Solid lead. Though he potentially has some better opportunities than line coach for the Redskins.

Add Tim Krumrie-DL to your list of possibilities too[/quote]

Will do. Just realized that you were the one that posted about Jagodzinski to begin with so I guess I should know better by now.

Also to answer the previous question concerning Richard Mann

[quote] Mann has had the opportunity to coach some of the game’s top receivers, including Tim Brown, Antonio Bryant, Mark Clayton, Joey Galloway, Ike Hilliard, Keyshawn Johnson, Keenan McCardell, Rob Moore, Andre Rison, Webster Slaughter and Pro Football Hall of Fame TE Ozzie Newsome.

Under Mann’s direction, the Buccaneers have produced a 1,000-yard receiver in every one of his seven seasons on the Tampa Bay sideline, easily the longest stretch in franchise history. Mann’s 1,000-yard pupil in 2008 was Bryant, who joined the Buccaneers as a free agent prior to the season. He finished the year leading the team with 83 receptions for 1,248 yards and seven touchdowns while earning The Sporting News Comeback Player of the Year award.[/quote]

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[quote=Dirtbag359;654463]Alright so if I understand it, this is how the Skin's coaching staff is shaping up. Still they weren't kidding when they said they were going to find and assemble the best coaching staff they could.

[B]Head Coach:[/B] Mike Shanahan
[B]Offensive Coordinator:[/B] Kyle Shanahan
[B]Defensive Coordinator:[/B] Jim Haslet
[B]Special Teams Coordinator:[/B] Possibly Bobby April or Danny Smith

[B]QB's:[/B] Chris Meidt (Holdover form previous regime)
[B]RB's:[/B] Bobby Turner (Also will serve as Associate Head Coach)
[B]WR's:[/B] Richard Mann
[B]TE's:[/B] Possibly Scott Wachenheim
[B]OL:[/B] Possibly Jeff Jagodzinski

[B]LB's:[/B]Lou Spanos
[B]DL:[/B] Possibly Mike Waufle or Tim Krumrie
[B]DB's:[/B] Bob Slowick (There will probably be another coach specializing in safeties or corners)[/quote]

Updated

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[quote=Dirtbag359;654464]Is Jagodzinski a solid lead or the result of people connecting the dots since he worked under Alex Gibbs?[/quote]

If he has learned directly under Gibbs, I want to see if could fit. Especially since the two best coaches for that scheme have gone elsewhere.
What going on Mike Waufle hope we hire him. That would be the ultimate spit in the face of the Giants.

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A) Why was Waufle Fired?
B) I really like the hire of the Pittsburgh LB Coach as our LB coach, more than I like the hire of Jim Haslett
C) Is it 100% definite that we will be running the 3-4 this year. Also I wanted to add in that I was watching Inside the NFL tonight, and they had Junior Seau on talking to Warren Sapp. Sapp asks Seau "3-4 or 4-3?" ...seau said 3-4, and he has more experience in the 4-3 than the 3-4. Now thats saying something, if you ask me.

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I also hope Slowick replaces Jackson I feel his coaching jacked up ST until he stopped listening to him and has messed up LL as well. we keep gray as the secondary coach

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[quote=Dirtbag359;654471]Will do. Just realized that you were the one that posted about Jagodzinski to begin with so I guess I should know better by now.

Also to answer the previous question concerning Richard Mann[/quote]

I like it so far

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;654349]actually i have my doubts about whether the first moon landing was legit or not. i've read very very strong arguments both ways. It certainly COULD have been faked, but that doesn't necessarily mean it didnt happen.

I do think the whole global warming thing is somewhat of a conspiracy, though. ;)[/quote]

Do you watch Jesse Ventura's new show? Conspiracy Therory with Jesse Ventura...

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JLC is reporting that the Seahawks interviewed or will interview Jerry Gray for their DC job

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[quote=SmootSmack;654498]JLC is reporting that the Seahawks interviewed or will interview Jerry Gray for their DC job[/quote]

I think he's a good choice. Guy definitely deserves another shot as a DC, just maybe coaching here wasn't the best fit.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;654463]Alright so if I understand it, this is how the Skin's coaching staff is shaping up. Still they weren't kidding when they said they were going to find and assemble the best coaching staff they could.

[B]Head Coach:[/B] Mike Shanahan
[B]Offensive Coordinator:[/B] Kyle Shanahan
[B]Defensive Coordinator:[/B] Jim Haslet
[B]Special Teams Coordinator:[/B] Possibly Bobby April

[B]QB's:[/B] Chris Meidt (Holdover form previous regime)
[B]RB's:[/B] Bobby Turner (Also will serve as Associate Head Coach)
[B]WR's:[/B] Richard Mann
[B]TE's:[/B] Possibly Scott Wachenheim
[B]OL:[/B] Still looking

[B]LB's:[/B]Lou Spanos
[B]DL:[/B] Possibly Mike Waufle
[B]DB's:[/B] Bob Slowick (There will probably be another coach specializing in safeties or corners)[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing earlier. This has a completely different feel than any that I can recall. Schottenheimer had some good assistants (son Brian) and some bad (Jimmy Raye), Spurrier had a jumbled mess with the exception of Marvin Lewis for one year (George Edwards anyone?), Gibbs didn't inspire any confidence with the Grumpy Old Men (seriously, Rennie Simmons and Jack Burns) and let's not even discuss the Zorn assistants process.

Shanny is clearly building an organization with a plan in place to build around a scheme rather than hodge-podging guys together. I love the pairing of Haslett and Spanos in being able to teach and coach the guys the same way.

I'd prefer April to another year of Danny Smith but JLC is reporting we didn't allow him to interview for other positions so he'll likely be back.

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[quote=SmootSmack;654458]I think he's staying but I don't know for sure[/quote]
sweet.. hope he does

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The assembly of the coaching staff is shaping up much better than it did for Zorn...seriously, to come in with the coaching staff already essentially in place? what did we really expect...

Now we know who the man of the house is and he is making sure it looks just the way he wants...as long as Snyder keeps the coaches' salaries under control, I'm liking the decisions

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[quote=rbanerjee23;654541]The assembly of the coaching staff is shaping up much better than it did for Zorn...seriously, to come in with the coaching staff already essentially in place? what did we really expect...

Now we know who the man of the house is and he is making sure it looks just the way he wants...[B]as long as Snyder keeps the coaches' salaries[/B] [B]under control, I'm liking the decisions[/B][/quote]
why does this matter to you? are you helping Snyder pay these guys?

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Not a ton to add. I really like the direction of the coaching staff. I wanted Zimmer, but switching to the 3-4 probably wouldn't have been something he would've wanted to do again. I'm fired up about Spanos and Turner and really really like the Shanahans running the O.

Pretty pleased with the way this whole thing has gone so far.

I'd love to see April, but if that doesn't happen, I'd prefer to get rid of Danny Smith. I could live with Smith, however.