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GusFrerotte 04-28-2010 10:35 PM

Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2010
 
The Caps better sign some free agent defensemen in the offseason or the same thing is going to happen next year. Get more Russians or Swedes!!!!!!

skinsfan_nn 04-28-2010 10:49 PM

Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2010
 
Well I thought they would pull through and I was wrong. Tough loss, and horrible way to finish out a great regular season.

Big disappointment going one and done. They need to solidify the blue line with a few top tier D-lineman and the net minder is not Varly for now moving forward.

Until next year CAP fans, tomorrow is still Thursday and the world keeps on truckin. Ready for some REDSKIN football!

GO SKINS!!!!!

saden1 04-29-2010 12:06 AM

Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2010
 
Those mother fuckers...un-fucking believable! We'll outscore you ineed.

GMScud 04-29-2010 12:09 AM

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[quote=mooby;696286]Anybody think we ship Mike Green out of town this offseason?

Caps once again proving that old adage it doesn't matter how many goals you scored in the regular season, playoffs is defense and good goaltending. Aka the Caps weak points.

And we're next in the ever growing list of Presidents Trophy winners who get ousted early in the playoffs.[/quote]

I'm DUNZO with sorry ass Mike Green. Both of their goals we're direct results of his boneheaded play. A flagrant cross check right in front of the ref to set up their first, and then he leaves his man on the second to go for the hit and they get an an easy goal. He's terrible.

GMScud 04-29-2010 12:15 AM

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Anyone think Boudreau's job might not be very safe?

saden1 04-29-2010 12:19 AM

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Also, where is the fucking offense? Cant's score for shit when it matters. Can't blame it all on defense and Green...Alex and Nick sucked donkey too...even moreso than Green cause we already know his ass sucks balls on and off the ice.

saden1 04-29-2010 12:20 AM

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[quote=GMScud;696391]Anyone think Boudreau's job might not be very safe?[/quote]

On the line? Fire him already!

GMScud 04-29-2010 01:33 AM

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ESPN keeps saying that this is the first time a #1 seed has blown a 3-1 series lead to a #8 seed, but didn't the Bruins do just that to then #8 seed Montreal like 5 years ago? A close friend of mine is a Bruins fan and he swears it happened about 5 years ago.

Anyone?

tryfuhl 04-29-2010 01:52 AM

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[quote=GMScud;696391]Anyone think Boudreau's job might not be very safe?[/quote]
I'd have to think that BB and/or GMGM will be gone

Dirtbag59 04-29-2010 01:55 AM

Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2010
 
[quote=tryfuhl;696416]I'd have to think that BB and/or GMGM will be gone[/quote]

Seriously doubt they get rid of GMGM, the guy has done nothing except find prospect after prospect. Boudreau on the other hand could be a different story but I imagine that he's safe for at least another year. Stat of the night, the Caps have only been in 7 game series since BB became the coach.

[quote=GMScud;696410]ESPN keeps saying that this is the first time a #1 seed has blown a 3-1 series lead to a #8 seed, but didn't the Bruins do just that to then #8 seed Montreal like 5 years ago? A close friend of mine is a Bruins fan and he swears it happened about 5 years ago.

Anyone?[/quote]

Doesn't really matter. We're basically the San Jose Sharks of the East. All the talent in the world yet we fold during the postseason. I don't know if we need a new coach that will better prepare us for playoff hockey but I think not playing against an ungodly goalie should help. It'll be interesting to see if they can beat Pittsburgh. However right now I want little if anything to do with hockey. This loss hurts pretty bad. At least when the Redskins have lost over the past decade it didn't hurt as much because most of the time we knew we sucked, but this was obviously different.

This is one time I'm glad that America doesn't give a crap about hockey as I want have to worry about seeing to many sportscenter highlights.

tryfuhl 04-29-2010 02:00 AM

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Yeah.. McPhee finds good prospects but I'm not sure all of our trades helped us a lot, this year anyways.. need more defense too.. I wonder if Green's issues have been due to his increased role on offense or he's just a choke artist, leaning towards the latter

we definitely need to have more of our guys play both ways

GMScud 04-29-2010 02:07 AM

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[quote=tryfuhl;696418]Yeah.. McPhee finds good prospects but I'm not sure all of our trades helped us a lot, this year anyways.. need more defense too.. I wonder if Green's issues have been due to his increased role on offense or he's just a choke artist, leaning towards the latter

we definitely need to have more of our guys play both ways[/quote]

Green is a great goal scoring defenseman, but he sucks at his position- defense. I can't stand him. We have enough goal scorers on this team. We need our defensemen to play DEFENSE.

tryfuhl 04-29-2010 02:11 AM

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yah how many times can you cough it up in your own zone

it just seemed like we were playing in slow motion.. no urgency or direction

GMScud 04-29-2010 02:14 AM

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I'm officially pissed off. The Caps are the only pro sports team I have that's worth a shit (yes, the Redskins aren't worth a shit until they prove otherwise) and they killed me tonight. Gross.

SmootSmack 04-29-2010 07:47 AM

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[quote=GMScud;696410]ESPN keeps saying that this is the first time a #1 seed has blown a 3-1 series lead to a #8 seed, but didn't the Bruins do just that to then #8 seed Montreal like 5 years ago? A close friend of mine is a Bruins fan and he swears it happened about 5 years ago.

Anyone?[/quote]

I think you're thinking of 2004 when Montreal came back from down 3-1 but Boston was the #2 seed that year. Montreal beat #1 seed Boston in 2002, but that series was 4-2.

And, of course, the Canadiens' goalie for those series...Jose Theodore

mredskins 04-29-2010 08:12 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;696449]I think you're thinking of 2004 when Montreal came back from down 3-1 but Boston was the #2 seed that year. Montreal beat #1 seed Boston in 2002, but that series was 4-2.

And, of course, the Canadiens' goalie for those series...Jose Theodore[/quote]


Correct!

If anyone wants to jump on the Bruins band wagon feel free. They are real starting to come together and Savard will be back for this series. Plus the Flyers are banged up.

Caps should make a play on Tim Thomas i nthe offseason since Rask has been lights out of late.

Monkeydad 04-29-2010 02:51 PM

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That Montreal goalie was like having a brick wall in front of the net. :frusty:

Now I'll have to revert to rooting against Monteal, Vancouver and Boston.

Crazy Prediction: Flyers vs. Sharks in Finals.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2010 12:50 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;696449]I think you're thinking of 2004 when Montreal came back from down 3-1 but Boston was the #2 seed that year. Montreal beat #1 seed Boston in 2002, but that series was 4-2.

And, of course, the Canadiens' goalie for those series...Jose Theodore[/quote]

The most recent example of what we're going through is what the Sharks went through last year.

The [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Jose_Sharks"]San Jose Sharks[/URL] were the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Conference_%28NHL%29"]Western Conference[/URL] regular season champions and the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidents%27_Trophy"]Presidents' Trophy[/URL] winners with the best record at 117 points.

Sharks lost 4-2, to the #8 seed Anaheim Ducks. I'm telling you one day both of us will get our act together and face off in the finals.

tryfuhl 04-30-2010 12:54 PM

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yep.. I have a couple of friends that are Sharks fans, being that they're originally from the area.. we're mourning together

Dirtbag59 04-30-2010 01:33 PM

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[quote=Buster;696733]
Crazy Prediction: Flyers vs. Sharks in Finals.[/quote]

Sharks won't get there until the Caps do. lol. Our destinies are interlinked.

[quote=tryfuhl;697098]yep.. I have a couple of friends that are Sharks fans, being that they're originally from the area.. we're mourning together[/quote]

Together? Don't you mean they're patting you on the back saying "der,der, dun worry it's all gon b k" since they're still in the playoffs? Actually the funny thing about all this is that I've even seen Penguin fans that have feel bad for us.

Also I just wanted to point out that BB, since he took over as coach has never had a playoff series that didn't last 7 games. Flyers, Rangers, Pens, and Candians all lasted 7 games. We are now 1-3 in those game 7's. Hopefully our D guy take the next step in their development. Alzner, Carlson, Green, and Schultz should all make a formidable defense in front of a resurrected Varly and a surging Nuevy. Also we're going to need to give Neuvy a lot of reps next year since Varly has a tendency to get injured.

GMScud 05-01-2010 01:02 AM

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I see that Mike Green the Gutless Wonder won't even talk to reporters. I'm so done with that loser.

tryfuhl 05-01-2010 01:07 AM

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[quote=GMScud;697253]I see that Mike Green the Gutless Wonder won't even talk to reporters. I'm so done with that loser.[/quote]
dude on sportsnite said to trade him for a mask

Dirtbag59 05-01-2010 03:42 AM

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Pens win 6-3. God that loss first round loss is about to start hurting a lot more.

GMScud 05-01-2010 09:08 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;697269]Pens win 6-3. God that loss first round loss is about to start hurting a lot more.[/quote]

Halak gets pulled after allowing 5 goals on the first 20 shots he sees. Wow. And we couldn't score on him if our lives depended on it. Must be nice to have the coaching and leadership to play hard and adjust to defenses.

Dirtbag59 05-01-2010 02:07 PM

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[quote=GMScud;697274]Halak gets pulled after allowing 5 goals on the first 20 shots he sees. Wow. And we couldn't score on him if our lives depended on it. Must be nice to have the coaching and leadership to play hard and adjust to defenses.[/quote]

I think it might be a little more of Halack loosing his mojo which he just happens to loose right after he beats the Caps. I mean it's not like we didn't have good shots. I mean part of it was probably strategy but some of his saves were simply unbelievable.

tryfuhl 05-01-2010 04:48 PM

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[quote=GMScud;697274]Halak gets pulled after allowing 5 goals on the first 20 shots he sees. Wow. And we couldn't score on him if our lives depended on it. Must be nice to have the coaching and leadership to play hard and adjust to defenses.[/quote]
seriously..

it's like we weren't even playing Caps hockey

GusFrerotte 05-01-2010 07:17 PM

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;688333]LETS GO CAPS! Habs will be one of the first round opponent to go down, Game 1 tomorrow. Red Rockin in DC

It all starts tonight. Hopefully with a Cindy and Co. LOSS!

The PENS SUCK!

[URL="http://espn.go.com/nhl/"]NHL - National Hockey League Teams, Scores, Stats, News, Standings, Rumors - ESPN[/URL][/quote]


That is funny! Too bad the Caps don't know how to play defense or have much in the way of goaltending. The Caps FO better get some defensemen in the offseason. Over 100 shots taken in two games and only 2 goals to show for it. The offense sucks as well.

Dirtbag59 05-01-2010 07:41 PM

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[quote]Hints on Alzner's future
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Karl Alzner | Capitals Top Email

Of all the bad things to come out of the Washington Capitals' first-round loss to the Montreal Canadiens, there's one good thing that did come out of it: They learned their young blueliners are ready for the NHL.

We already new D John Carlson had a spot on the roster next season, but Karl Alzner now likely has a spot as well. CSN's Corey Masisak writes, "As it stands Carlson and Alzner are probably the organization's fourth and fifth defensemen as the offseason approaches." Of course, that could change if the Caps make some offseason moves. There's a rumor they could look at Flames D Robyn Regehr.

But if things are status quo, coach Bruce Boudreau looks like he's good with getting those guys plenty of NHL ice-time. He told CSN, "I would venture to guess they're ready for the NHL full-time."[/quote]

[quote]More on Semin trade
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Alexander Semin | Capitals Top Email

Another Caps' writer is suggesting the possibility of an Alexander Semin trade. CSN's Ryan O'Halloran writes, "Semin is owed $6 million next year and should be shipped to the Western Conference."

He points out that Alex Ovechkin, Mike Knuble and Nicklas Backstrom combined for 25 points in the playoffs, while everyone else had 20 points; Semin only had two points, continuing his playoff struggles.

The 26-year-old recently signed a one-year extension to take him through the end of next season, when he'll be an unrestricted free agent. Previously, the Washington Post's Mike Wise writes that Semin has been "mostly a downtrodden drag on and off the ice recently," and he missed an optional skate before Game 7, while most of his teammates were there (although Alex Ovechkin wasn't).

Also, the Toronto Star's Damien Cox wrote that Semin might be a trade candidate at some point because he simply drives people crazy: "[Caps GM George McPhee has] [B]got a good young Swede coming, forward Marcus Johansson,[/B] and as the market for Kessel and Kovalchuk demonstrated this season, there's undoubtedly a rich harvest to be had if the Caps were to move Semin."

So if Johansson is ready, the Caps may consider dealing Semin early. They can only wish they can get a deal like the Bruins got for Phil Kessel: two first-rounders and a second-rounder. But since Semin is an impending UFA, chances are he'll be a rental player if anything.[/quote]

Amazing that they still have talent coming up through the ranks. I don't know how Semin would take to being traded. Personally I wonder weather or not he would become depressed seeing as how the only guys he can really talk to are other Russians. Sending him to a team without Russians could leave him feeling isolated.

They also have another Sweed coming up through the ranks in Anton Gustafsson who could end up being that second line center we need. People wonder why we don't make big trades and the like, in reality it's probably because they have so much talent at the devleopmental level that screwing up their cap situation wouldn't be worth one or two big names with hard to move contracts. Not to mention the cost of probably giving up one of these players that could be the next great young Cap.

GusFrerotte 05-01-2010 09:20 PM

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They need defensmen though. It is good they got a Swede coming in. Load up on Russian defensemen. The Wings got their first Stanley with vet Russian defensemen. Of course they always had a Russians their leading scorer to in Sergei and now Pavel.

Dirtbag59 05-01-2010 09:58 PM

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[quote=GusFrerotte;697354]They need defensmen though. It is good they got a Swede coming in. Load up on Russian defensemen. The Wings got their first Stanley with vet Russian defensemen. Of course they always had a Russians their leading scorer to in Sergei and now Pavel.[/quote]

They have defensemen. The "problem" is the oldest one among the core players is Mike Green (24). With him you have Schultz (23) who's +50 rating might be a little bit overstated but theres no doubt that he improved a lot this year. Carlson (20) who is going to be a star in this league, and Karl Alzner (21)who while I don't know exactly how to project has all the makings of a quality defensman.

I can't really remember if there was a defenseman out there that people wanted that either

A. didn't have an expensive contract with a few years left (part of the reason they didn't trade for Pronger last year).

or

B. A rental player that wouldn't have cost us one of our young players that will allow us to stay on top for a long time.

Still when it's all said and done we have four young defensemen that are still at least a year or two from being fully developed. I mean is there a team out there that has 3 pairs of all stars? The last two spots can be filled with a few other promising prospects coming up through our system including Dmitri Orlov, an 18 year old Russian that was a 2008 2nd round pick (lol theres your Russian Defenseman) or even a guy like Josh Godfrey a 22 year old 2nd round pick from 2007.

Not to mention we have Varly, Neuvy, and Hotlby in net and say what you want about our defense but Varly never gave up more then 3 goals against Montreal. Varly's problem is staying healthy which is a good reason to keep Nuevy around. In the end this team is so stocked with young talent it isn't even funny, mosts teams would kill to have the players we have even if you take out Ovechkin. The thing that they really need is to get use to playing playoff hockey. Once they do that the skies the limit.

GusFrerotte 05-02-2010 12:20 AM

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Thanks for the info Dirtbag. I am glad the Caps have some nice prospects. I was pissed the Habs kicked their keisters, but the Wings have had first round upsets the past decade also, only to bounce back and win the Cup again. Only team I cheer for more than the Caps is the Wings of course. We better win tonight or we are next on the chopping block.

Dirtbag59 05-02-2010 01:36 PM

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[quote=GusFrerotte;697367]Thanks for the info Dirtbag. I am glad the Caps have some nice prospects. I was pissed the Habs kicked their keisters, but the Wings have had first round upsets the past decade also, only to bounce back and win the Cup again. Only team I cheer for more than the Caps is the Wings of course. We better win tonight or we are next on the chopping block.[/quote]

No problem, good to see you still have the Wings who have little problem on defense with Howard and Lindstrom. In the meantime some other Caps news.

[quote]For Backstrom, $7 million?
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Nicklas Backstrom | Capitals Top Email

Nicklas Backstrom is set to cash in this offseason as an unrestricted free agent and, after making $2.4 million this season, analysts expect that number to perhaps triple in this new contract.

Backstrom will be priority No. 1 for the Caps, and he hinted to CSN that he doesn't have the urge to leave (so he won't go hunting for an offer sheet anywhere.)

So three times $2.4 million is $7.2 million, which is how much GM George McPhee should budget for Backstrom as he signs other free agents like Eric Fehr and Tomas Fleischmann. And what will make that number stay that high is how the Caps gave Alexander Semin a one-year, $6 million extension early this season. And by all accounts, Backstrom is the guy they want to keep for the long-term. Semin might even get traded before his contract is up.[/quote]

[quote]Belanger's likely back
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Eric Belanger | Capitals Top Email

Eric Belanger is the only trade deadline acquisition the Washington Capitals are likely to retain for next season.

Belanger told the Washington Post, "It's my priority number one right now to see if we can get something done before July 1."

Scott Walker and Joe Corvo, the other two deadline acquisitions, probably won't be back. Part of it is that their collective cap hit was about $5 million this year, and the Caps will need that money to retain some other guys.

Meanwhile, Belagner, 32, came over from the Wild and made $1.75 million this season.[/quote]

[quote]Theodore hitting the market
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Jose Theodore | Capitals Top Email

Despite the painful playoff loss to the Montreal Canadiens, Washington Capitals goalie Jose Theodore finished the regular season on an incredible hot streak.

However, Theodore probably won't be retained this offseason when he becomes a free agent. The Washington Post speculates that it doesn't, since he was replaced early in the playoff series by Semyon Varlamov, the Caps might look another direction this offseason.

Now, depending on what the Caps feel about their young goalies, they might sign a veterans free agent, if they think it's their one barrier to a Stanley Cup -- Marty Turco and Evgeni Nabokov are available. However, the Caps have both Varlamov and Michal Neuvirth so they may choose to go with these two youngster, although there is risk involved in going with guys who are barely 22.[/quote]

I don't know why but ESPN Insider can't seem to fathom the fact that the Caps interest in taking on another veteran net minder is luke warm at best.

GusFrerotte 05-02-2010 06:25 PM

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Nabokov might be a good pickup like Hasek was for the Wings a few years back to start til the youngsters are ready. I am sure Varmalov could do well in the regular season, but the playoffs is another matter when it comes down to the best of 7 and one game might be for all the marbles. It could go either way, these rooks can lock things down also, but being able to put in a cool customer in the net when it is all on the line is nice.

mlmdub130 05-02-2010 06:59 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;697350]Amazing that they still have talent coming up through the ranks. [B]I don't know how Semin would take to being traded. Personally I wonder weather or not he would become depressed seeing as how the only guys he can really talk to are other Russians. Sending him to a team without Russians could leave him feeling isolated. [/B]

They also have another Sweed coming up through the ranks in Anton Gustafsson who could end up being that second line center we need. People wonder why we don't make big trades and the like, in reality it's probably because they have so much talent at the devleopmental level that screwing up their cap situation wouldn't be worth one or two big names with hard to move contracts. Not to mention the cost of probably giving up one of these players that could be the next great young Cap.[/quote]

i feel like he is gonna hang around next year and then head back to russia and make money back there he really seems to hate america, i just don't see him staying in the nhl and not playing fo the caps

wolfeskins 05-02-2010 08:26 PM

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i'd like to see this guy get more playing time next season. he's one of those real scrappy guys, always hustles. he had 4 goals and 5 assists in only 21 games this season.

[B]Mathieu Perreault[/B]

Dirtbag59 05-12-2010 07:42 PM

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Freaking Halack. Guy can't help but stop pucks. Makes me feel a little better about loosing to Canadians. If there was any possible 8th seed team that the NHL would have felt good about beating both Sid the Kid and OV it would have been Montreal.

ArtMonkDrillz 05-12-2010 09:57 PM

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[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude"]Schadenfreude[/URL]

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Dirtbag59 05-13-2010 01:11 AM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;700684][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude"]Schadenfreude[/URL]

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Ha ha, that is so me right now. I'm rooting against Pittsburgh and Lebron right now to justify OV and the Caps first round loss.

GMScud 05-13-2010 01:40 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;700698]Ha ha, that is so me right now. I'm rooting against Pittsburgh and Lebron right now to justify OV and the Caps first round loss.[/quote]

Me too. Misery loves company. It's great seeing Queen James crap the bed, and man oh man it was so sweet seeing the Pens crap the bed at home in Game 7. Fleury tonight reminded me of Varly in game 7 vs the Pens last year.

tryfuhl 05-13-2010 01:57 AM

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just want to reaffirm the last couple of posts itt


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