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Hog1 07-31-2010 07:52 AM

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Exercise caution with all the loose P Ramsey talk. I think I hear the ghost of Offiss ....stirring

GTripp0012 07-31-2010 09:37 AM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;715842]So TRYON is not living up to his top 5 break out player this year?[/quote]Tryon's not really a breakout player, IMO, though he fits the formula of "good advanced coverage numbers" and "young". Left in his role from last year (nickel), he can keep posting good numbers year after year, as long as he's given a steady stream of zone responsibility.

The idea that he could replace Rogers at LCB as soon as this year is pretty far-fetched. He's a poor man's DeAngelo Hall, and considering what we're already paying the real DeAngelo Hall, his only chance of breaking into the starting lineup is injury. This, and of course, the Blache scheme is dead, so he's starting from scratch.

He's probably right around his max potential already, and can stay there for three to four more years, or a year or two into his next contract (which means I wouldn't really go out of my way to extend him past 2011).

GTripp0012 07-31-2010 09:42 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;716071]No No No No!!! He needs to play man!!

Bench McNabb, play the Colt! Only then will his "it" factor be allowed to save us!!

If he fails - it's Jason Campbell's fault!
(or maybe Patrick Ramsey's)[/quote]I can vouch for the academically supported idea that some players are going to underperform (consistently) in low-intensity environments. Some players just need game speed to have those coverages make any sense.

Of course, I've seen Colt in the preseason, and, there's just not a whole lot there.

GTripp0012 07-31-2010 09:45 AM

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[quote=mooby;715964]I'm looking forward to seeing if the Bartel Brotherhood will beat out the Cult of Colt for the #3 qb job. I guess we will see.

And nice to hear about DT and FD looking sharp. Sounds like we are hearing a glass half full kinda deal, some good, some bad.

Also very impressed to hear about Zoe taking first team reps away from Carter. I can't believe he was playing defensive tackle when we first brought him in and now he's competing for the starting outside linebacker job.[/quote]Lorenzo Alexander once covered Brian Westbrook on a pass thrown 35 yards downfield.

I mean, aside from the fact that he strained his hammy on the play and missed the rest of the year (just the SF game), versatility has always been a major strength of his.

SkinzWin 07-31-2010 09:51 AM

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I haven't seen any mention of Jarmon in the thread, unless I missed it somehow. Read this on redskins.com this morning and thought it was interesting.

"- 9:00 a.m. ET

Jeremy Jarmon

Watching the defensive linemen running through drills, I noticed that Jeremy Jarmon is working with them.

He was listed as a linebacker heading into training camp, but he has bulked up to 286 pounds and is now listed as a defensive end.

Jarmon could develop into a swing player. He has versatility and could slide inside to play nose tackle in pass rushing situations."

The Goat 07-31-2010 12:04 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;715882]i'm very impressed with alexander too. He's done everything this team has ever asked him to do - and done it well - and now he may finally be rewarded for his hard work. if i'm not mistaken, this would be the first time he's been penciled in as a starter in his entire career. i'm not so sure that carter would stay as a backup though. there's no cap in 2010, but i think if the skins could save any considerable amount of "real" money by releasing him, i think they would.

[B]He's got to be disappointed, though. He's went from having the best year of his career (thanks largely to Haynesworth) to being a backup in a defense that doesnt fit him well. I admire his class in keeping his mouth shut and not becoming a problem, but i also feel pretty bad for the guy.[/B][/quote]

Word. I don't understand why they didn't work together to find him a great team still running the 4-3? He's such a physical phenom I think another 4 yrs of solid play is likely. Carter deserves to start (at 4-3 DE) and we should have gotten some value. Not the best work by our FO this yr.

SirClintonPortis 07-31-2010 12:22 PM

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I'm pretty sure Carter will see his fair share of plays. Oftentimes, they rotate players in for certain packages.

MTK 07-31-2010 12:43 PM

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AC is going to get plenty of reps in this D. I wouldn't worry about him or his feelings.

SmootSmack 07-31-2010 03:37 PM

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[quote=mooby;715964]I'm looking forward to seeing if the Bartel Brotherhood will beat out the Cult of Colt for the #3 qb job. I guess we will see.

And nice to hear about DT and FD looking sharp. Sounds like we are hearing a glass half full kinda deal, some good, some bad.

Also very impressed to hear about Zoe taking first team reps away from Carter. I can't believe he was playing defensive tackle when we first brought him in and now he's competing for the starting outside linebacker job.[/quote]

Wouldn't be all that surprised if neither makes the final roster, and they just go with Chunky and Sexy. I also wouldn't be surprised if the JaMarcus Junkies get an opportunity.

I've heard nothing but good things about FD all spring/summer

Zoe's an inspiration to all those players in high school/college who are borderline NFL talents

mooby 07-31-2010 03:52 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;716139][B]Wouldn't be all that surprised if neither makes the final roster, and they just go with Chunky and Sexy. I also wouldn't be surprised if the JaMarcus Junkies get an opportunity.[/B]

I've heard nothing but good things about FD all spring/summer

Zoe's an inspiration to all those players in high school/college who are borderline NFL talents[/quote]

:lol:

I'd say with the JaMarcus Junkies problems following the law and his pending legal matters he probably doesn't have much of a shot. I could see them going with Chunky and Sexy, but what happens when Chunky and Sexy go down? They could trade for an established vet like the Dandy Delhomme, if he burns out in Cleveland after about 4 starts, or we could look to bring in somebody currently on the streets/UFL, like a Culpepper Coalition.

SmootSmack 07-31-2010 04:00 PM

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If Chunky and Sexy both go down, we might as well start running Swinging Gate on every play.

Longtimefan 07-31-2010 04:25 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;716143]If Chunky and Sexy both go down, we might as well start running Swinging Gate on every play.[/quote]

Shanny has said he may go with just two QB's, so it's like you said earlier, both Colt and Bart could be on the outside looking in.

On a side note: SS we need you to use your POI along with your connections in the area to lobby for the bleachers to return to Redskin Park. I know it's not exactly your expertise but I've been lobbying to no avail. I'm an old man and diabetic, standing for long periods of time does absolutely nothing for me. j/k of course, but it worth a try ha!!

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-31-2010 04:50 PM

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[B][quote=SmootSmack;716143]If Chunky and Sexy both go down, we might as well start running Swinging Gate on every play.[/quote][/B]


If they both go down, we are not going any where this year.That would be a nightmare.

I am scared to see Rex for any amount of game action other than a quarter or to.

Longtimefan 07-31-2010 05:01 PM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;716155][B][/B]


If they both go down, we are not going any where this year.That would be a nightmare.

I am scared to see Rex for any amount of game action other than a quarter or to.[/quote]

If anyone thinks Rex Grossman is the answer at back-up, I question their judgement. He may do ok for a short period of time, beyond that he'd be suspect.

Dirtbag59 07-31-2010 05:04 PM

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I'm starting to love the idea of a no name receiving corps. Maybe we'll see the corps be Moss, Galloway, Fuery, Hodge, Armstrong, and Austin. Notice that theres two names missing that are usually there. One guy that might end up being a steal is a guy named Hodge. Here's his draft report.

[quote]"He may be overlooked because he's not on an Alabama team that is No. 1 or a

Florida team that's top five," said teammate Kendrell Lockett. "But how do you overlook a guy who has over 1,000 yards receiving and has accomplished some of

the things he's accomplished? The numbers he produces? How common is that? You can tell what kind of athlete he is."

Hodge has been clocked under 4.5

in the 40-yard dash and he has decent size at 6'1'' and 207 pounds. He is by no means an athletic freak of nature, but he consistently gets the job done by

being physical at the line of scrimmage and catching almost anything that is in his near vicinity. Furthermore, Hodge is rock-solid both on and off the field

and he will enter the NFL with no red flags whatsoever -- not even with any kind of injury history. As a result, Hodge should see his name go off the board

sometime on Day 2 of the upcoming draft, perhaps as early as round four.

Last Updated Jan-13-2010 by Ricky Dimon[/quote]

Dirtbag59 07-31-2010 05:14 PM

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This tweet goes out to Smootsmack

CoachA12 Wow. RT @PewterReport: We are hearing the Bucs will be releasing QB Jevan Snead to make room for Gerald McCoy. Stay tuned.

SmootSmack 07-31-2010 05:19 PM

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This is why the Bucs are stupid. Now get Colt out of there and sign Snead!

mooby 07-31-2010 05:23 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;716163]This is why the Bucs are stupid. Now get Colt out of there and sign Snead![/quote]

Come on BA! Get in there and bring in the Slammin' Snead!

On a side note it's pretty bad that I have no idea who this Hodge guy is Dirtbag. And why haven't we heard anything about him being solid at the minimum? I'd love for a no-name to step up and be a consistent player for us but I'm not hopping on the bandwagon for this guy just yet.

rbanerjee23 07-31-2010 05:27 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;716159]I'm starting to love the idea of a no name receiving corps. Maybe we'll see the corps be Moss, Galloway, Fuery, Hodge, Armstrong, and Austin. Notice that theres two names missing that are usually there. One guy that might end up being a steal is a guy named Hodge. Here's his draft report.[/quote]

I think if you look at the pass-catchers on this team, not just WRs, the group of Moss, Cooley, Davis, and (to some extent) Portis more than give McNabb a solid group of targets who should be on the field together at least 40-50% of the time.

724Skinsfan 07-31-2010 05:37 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;716147][B]Shanny has said he may go with just two QB's, so it's like you said earlier, both Colt and Bart could be on the outside looking in.[/B]

On a side note: SS we need you to use your POI along with your connections in the area to lobby for the bleachers to return to Redskin Park. I know it's not exactly your expertise but I've been lobbying to no avail. I'm an old man and diabetic, standing for long periods of time does absolutely nothing for me. j/k of course, but it worth a try ha!![/quote]

Didn't Shanny typically carry just two QB's at Denver?

Dirtbag59 07-31-2010 06:08 PM

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[quote=724Skinsfan;716167]Didn't Shanny typically carry just two QB's at Denver?[/quote]

Yes, Ramsey and someone else.

2008 - Ramsey and Cutler
2007 - Ramsey and Cutler
2006 - Plummer and Cutler
2005 - Plummer and Bradlee Van Pelt
2004 - Plummer and Kanell
2003 - Plummer, Beurlein, Jackson,and Kanell
2002- Griese, Beurlein, Jackson

SirClintonPortis 07-31-2010 07:36 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;716143]If Chunky and Sexy both go down, we might as well start running Swinging Gate on every play.[/quote]

They may make a trade for Orlovsky instead. :D

Dirtbag59 07-31-2010 07:39 PM

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Some Twitter updates

RedskinsDotCom Roydell Williams a starter? Could be, per Mike Shanahan. He just caught another nice downfield pass from Rex Grossman.

colinkirschner Roydell Williams has joined Joey Galloway at the top of the Redskins depth chart at split end. I know its the beginning better motivate DT!

sbnationdc Your daily reminder that Joey Galloway is really, really old, featuring a video of him dunking in 1995. [url=http://sbnation.com/e/1362701]Half Smokes Highlights: Joey Galloway Could Dunk...In 1995 - Half Smokes - SB Nation DC[/url]
about 3 hours ago via SB Nation

sbnationdc Mike Furrey just had the catch of the day, a diving one from Rex Grossman.
1 day ago via Twitter for iPhone

LarryWeisman Nice diving grab by Mike Furrey, from Rex Grossman.
1 day ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

RedskinsDotCom Phillip Buchanon with solid coverage on Anthony Armstrong, breaks up a short pass from Rex Grossman.
about 10 hours ago via web

RickMaese Second team WRs btw: Roydell Williams and Anthony Armstrong (though Armstrong didn't have great morning today)
1 day ago via TweetDeck

RedskinsRT RT @RedskinsDotCom: Yes, OT Trent Williams is working with first team. Largely unnoticed is that WR Anthony Armstrong is also getting some first-team reps.

Photo: Devin Thomas huh?! Looks like I’ll be a Redskins fan this season. [url=http://tumblr.com/xpcenj23i]The Get Right[/url]
20 minutes ago via Tumblr (or maybe not)

RedskinsDotCom On a deep throw, Colt Brennan misses everybody. His toss is well past Devin Thomas running a deep route.
about 9 hours ago via web

RedskinsDotCom Colt Brennan getting a set of reps here. Misses TE Logan Paulsen, then connects with RB Willie Parker.
about 9 hours ago via web

SChamberlainTBD Robert Henson almost picks off Brennan. Colt has looked quite shaky today #redskins #trainingcamp
about 9 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone

Rustyg418 Lol. Because it's first time it's happened RT @Rich_Campbell: Rex Grossman looks really sharp. First time I have ever thought that.
about 9 hours ago via Echofon

dcship6 Rex Grossman has been sharp. The defense is starting to show different looks.
about 10 hours ago via txt

Wing2J Listening to WIP on the way home. Holy ****, guys. DONOVAN MCNABB DOESN'T PLAY HERE ANYMORE! Get over it already.
about 2 hours ago via UberTwitter

RedskinsIntern McNabb scrambles and throws to rookie Terrance Austin who made nice move and ran for a touchdown!
1 day ago via Twitterrific

EJONES9 Terrance Austin failed it 3 times and he on the team now #UCLA RT @commenturry: Terrence Cody of the Baltimore Ravens ... [url=http://tmi.me/jZxB]TMI.me: when you have too much to say...[/url]
1 day ago via ÜberTwitter


Terrence Austin: The rookie wide receiver has seen a lot of passes come his way in the first two days of camp. "He is a very intelligent player," head coach Mike Shanahan said. "Very few guys can come in late and pick up the offense as quickly as he did."

Watching the defensive linemen running through drills, I noticed that Jeremy Jarmon is working with them.

He was listed as a linebacker heading into training camp, but he has bulked up to 286 pounds and is now listed as a defensive end.

Jarmon could develop into a swing player. He has versatility and could slide inside to play nose tackle in pass rushing situations.

rbanerjee23 07-31-2010 08:22 PM

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Anyone else noticing how all the players that Shanahan and Allen have brought in seem to be doing pretty well -- Galloway, Grossman, Williams (Trent and Roydell), Larry Johnson, McNabb, Austin etc. -- but the guys who are struggling a little bit -- Haynesworth, Thomas, Kelly, Brennan -- are all holdovers from the Zorn/Cerrato regime?

Maybe I'm reading a little too much into it and it's only the third day of camp but it's good to know these new guys are making good impressions.

HTTR

mooby 07-31-2010 08:24 PM

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Thanks for the Twitter updates Dirtbag. Its efforts like yours and Tryfuhl's that make this thread worth reading.

Dirtbag59 07-31-2010 08:30 PM

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[quote=mooby;716183]Thanks for the Twitter updates Dirtbag. Its efforts like yours and Tryfuhl's that make this thread worth reading.[/quote]

Damn Tryfuhl. Always stealing 50% of my thunder lol. Thanks though Mooby.

Dirtbag59 07-31-2010 08:35 PM

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[quote=rbanerjee23;716182]Anyone else noticing how all the players that Shanahan and Allen have brought in seem to be doing pretty well -- Galloway, Grossman, Williams (Trent and Roydell), Larry Johnson, McNabb, Austin etc. -- but the guys who are struggling a little bit -- Haynesworth, Thomas, Kelly, Brennan -- are all holdovers from the Zorn/Cerrato regime?

Maybe I'm reading a little too much into it and it's only the third day of camp but it's good to know these new guys are making good impressions.

HTTR[/quote]

I think you have a point. It's also kind of funny that Roydell is doing really well, despite having been cut the last two years. Maybe the fact that Moss, Thomas, Kelly, and ARE were all guaranteed roster spots under Vinny had something to do with him being cut.

Still either way, in spite of Shanahan's ego you have to admire his willingness to have an actual competition. Doesn't matter where you were drafted or for the most part how much money you make. The best players will play.

One thing though that kind of worries me is I haven't heard much about Galloway on the field. Austin, Armstrong, Furry, and Williams have all drawn praise for at least one on field play yet the only thing I hear about Galloway is that he's working with the first team.

InsaneBoost 07-31-2010 09:03 PM

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For those of you who have gone to a lot of these and have been in the first row, right up on the wood areas / fence, how earlier do you need to be in order to get those spots? I have gone to a fair amount, just never have gotten there early enough to get close.

I'm guessing right when they start allowing people in, some what like when you go to a theme park and want to rid the new ride, gotta get there right away in order to not wait long or in this case get a good spot.

Either way, just wondering if anyone can give me some info. I'm going to rent a 70-200mm so I can get some good pics and I don't want anyone to be in front of me so I can get clear shots. Is there possibly any way to get special passes to get on the field? I've seen some there during the Redskins Nation show, but I assume they are family or friends of photographers or coaches.

Thanks!

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-31-2010 10:43 PM

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[quote=rbanerjee23;716182]Anyone else noticing how all the players that Shanahan and Allen have brought in seem to be doing pretty well -- Galloway, Grossman, Williams (Trent and Roydell), Larry Johnson, McNabb, Austin etc. -- but the guys who are struggling a little bit -- Haynesworth, Thomas, Kelly, Brennan -- are all holdovers from the Zorn/Cerrato regime?

Maybe I'm reading a little too much into it and it's only the third day of camp but it's good to know these new guys are making good impressions.

HTTR[/quote]

I am not at camp, but I would hope some of the new guys would come in and make some plays. Altough I don't think it is right to go back to the Cerrato era. We all know he was bad at building a team but at the same time he did leave us with some talent and a good defense. The Offense was severly overlooked though and that is why a all of the new players you listed were on Offense and just one defensive player ( whose last few months have been highly publised ) has been a problem.

We still have a couple of holdovers on O that will be big time players in the new offense as well. Cooley, Davis, Portis, Moss, Sellers, and Dockery. I know I am taking a defensive position but it is more to just remind you that we still have some players left from the last era we like and enjoy rooting for. HAIL!

rbanerjee23 08-01-2010 02:27 AM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;716209]I am not at camp, but I would hope some of the new guys would come in and make some plays. Altough I don't think it is right to go back to the Cerrato era. We all know he was bad at building a team but at the same time he did leave us with some talent and a good defense. The Offense was severly overlooked though and that is why a all of the new players you listed were on Offense and just one defensive player ( whose last few months have been highly publised ) has been a problem.

We still have a couple of holdovers on O that will be big time players in the new offense as well. Cooley, Davis, Portis, Moss, Sellers, and Dockery. I know I am taking a defensive position but it is more to just remind you that we still have some players left from the last era we like and enjoy rooting for. HAIL![/quote]

Oh yeah for sure...I'm not saying by any means that we don't have players to build around. I think Orakpo is going to be a superstar in this league, Davis has off-the-chart athletic ability, and Cooley is the starting TE on ~25 of the 32 teams in the league.

My point was that, it's good to hear that all the new guys (or at least the vast majority) have had some really nice accolade to their name in this very young training camp but the guys who have been having problems seem to be of the guys that were here already.

Grain of Salt: Tomorrow is day 4 of training camp

mooby 08-01-2010 02:43 AM

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[quote=InsaneBoost;716188]For those of you who have gone to a lot of these and have been in the first row, right up on the wood areas / fence, how earlier do you need to be in order to get those spots? I have gone to a fair amount, just never have gotten there early enough to get close.

I'm guessing right when they start allowing people in, some what like when you go to a theme park and want to rid the new ride, gotta get there right away in order to not wait long or in this case get a good spot.

Either way, just wondering if anyone can give me some info. I'm going to rent a 70-200mm so I can get some good pics and I don't want anyone to be in front of me so I can get clear shots. Is there possibly any way to get special passes to get on the field? I've seen some there during the Redskins Nation show, but I assume they are family or friends of photographers or coaches.

Thanks![/quote]

Last year I went to training camp and I donated blood to the Red Cross because they were having a special Redskins blood drive and they gave me a free bag of goodies and also unlimited passes to sit in front of the big fence that most fans sit behind. You could do that if you want to get those passes to get good pics, because if you don't you will have to stand behind the fence and trust me there will be an assload of people on the other side blocking your view unless you are pretty tall.

Everybody with VIP and Red Cross passes will be sitting in front of the fence except for when the players walk back inside. And the Red Cross passes only work for a specific day or weekend. Last year I donated blood on a Saturday and the passes were good for that Saturday or Sunday, and I went on that Sunday. I think you have to register on the Skins' or a special Red Cross website though.

If you don't wanna do that well then it's behind the fence for you. I'd recommend showing up half an hour before gates open because a line will form and if you're at the back of the line well everybody in front will grab all the good spots on the wall to get pics/autographs from. Getting in line half an hour before gates open to let fans inside the Park will ensure you get whatever spot you want on the wall.

skinsfan_nn 08-01-2010 09:24 AM

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Sunday camp gets going at Redskin Park.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Practice_Report__Training_Camp_Updates_133998.jsp]Practice Report: Training Camp Updates[/url]

SirClintonPortis 08-01-2010 10:01 AM

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[quote=rbanerjee23;716182]Anyone else noticing how all the players that Shanahan and Allen have brought in seem to be doing pretty well -- Galloway, Grossman, Williams (Trent and Roydell), Larry Johnson, McNabb, Austin etc. -- but the guys who are struggling a little bit -- Haynesworth, Thomas, Kelly, Brennan -- are all holdovers from the Zorn/Cerrato regime?

Maybe I'm reading a little too much into it and it's only the third day of camp but it's good to know these new guys are making good impressions.

HTTR[/quote]
Why not extend it back to the Gibbs era since Cerrato played some sort of role in it too? It's not like Zorn had that large of a say in the FO decisions except for maybe a few pointers on what his version of the WCO wanted.

Longtimefan 08-01-2010 11:41 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;716186]I think you have a point. It's also kind of funny that Roydell is doing really well, despite having been cut the last two years. Maybe the fact that Moss, Thomas, Kelly, and ARE were all guaranteed roster spots under Vinny had something to do with him being cut.

Still either way, in spite of Shanahan's ego you have to admire his willingness to have an actual competition. Doesn't matter where you were drafted or for the most part how much money you make. The best players will play.

One thing though that kind of worries me is I haven't heard much about Galloway on the field. Austin, Armstrong, Furry, and Williams have all drawn praise for at least one on field play yet the only thing I hear about Galloway is that he's working with the first team.[/quote]

The thing about Galloway is that he can still run (and fast.) He brings a great deal of experience and another player useful for the vertical stretch. However, his production has been way down the last couple of years making him a luxary some serious thought may have to go into a decision to keep, or not to keep.

Both Thomas and Kelly have had their problems with staying healthy, therby being unproductive as a result. It will be interesting to see if one or both of them will be sacrificed in exchange for a longtime veteran who in the last two years has not been anymore productive than they have. Beyond catching passes, Galloway has limited value to the team because he does not do anything else. Therefore, if his production (or lack thereof) continues it's decline, he's of lesser value.

InsaneBoost 08-01-2010 12:46 PM

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[quote=mooby;716226]Last year I went to training camp and I donated blood to the Red Cross because they were having a special Redskins blood drive and they gave me a free bag of goodies and also unlimited passes to sit in front of the big fence that most fans sit behind. You could do that if you want to get those passes to get good pics, because if you don't you will have to stand behind the fence and trust me there will be an assload of people on the other side blocking your view unless you are pretty tall.

Everybody with VIP and Red Cross passes will be sitting in front of the fence except for when the players walk back inside. And the Red Cross passes only work for a specific day or weekend. Last year I donated blood on a Saturday and the passes were good for that Saturday or Sunday, and I went on that Sunday. I think you have to register on the Skins' or a special Red Cross website though.

If you don't wanna do that well then it's behind the fence for you. I'd recommend showing up half an hour before gates open because a line will form and if you're at the back of the line well everybody in front will grab all the good spots on the wall to get pics/autographs from. Getting in line half an hour before gates open to let fans inside the Park will ensure you get whatever spot you want on the wall.[/quote]

Yeah I'm not doing that haha, not because I don't mind giving blood, but because I just hate needles and get really light headed and usually pass out with them, it'd be easier to just stand in line early to be honest.

I mean if I'm 2nd in line behind people I don't mind, but we'll see how it goes, I'll figure it out, I plan on going to at least two of them maybe three so if I don't like the spot the first time I can go to a new one the next day.

Thanks for the info!

mooby 08-01-2010 01:02 PM

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[quote=InsaneBoost;716272]Yeah I'm not doing that haha, not because I don't mind giving blood, but because I just hate needles and get really light headed and usually pass out with them, it'd be easier to just stand in line early to be honest.

I mean if I'm 2nd in line behind people I don't mind, but we'll see how it goes, I'll figure it out, I plan on going to at least two of them maybe three so if I don't like the spot the first time I can go to a new one the next day.

Thanks for the info![/quote]

Oh yeah you def. wouldn't like giving blood then. I had to sit in a nice chair for about 10 minutes with that needle stuck in my arm, they took about 2-3 pints from me I think. I'm not scared of needles but the longer I sat there the more I was like, damn is it ever gonna step? And plus you have to put your phone number down, and once you do that they call you nonstop asking you to give blood again and again. I did it once more and then I was like, man I'm just too busy to keep donating blood every few months, so once they started calling me again I told them I was somebody else and that number wasn't his anymore.

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-01-2010 02:14 PM

Re: The Official 2010 Training Camp Thread
 
[quote=rbanerjee23;716225]Oh yeah for sure...I'm not saying by any means that we don't have players to build around. I think Orakpo is going to be a superstar in this league, Davis has off-the-chart athletic ability, and Cooley is the starting TE on ~25 of the 32 teams in the league.

My point was that, it's good to hear that all the new guys (or at least the vast majority) have had some really nice accolade to their name in this very young training camp but the guys who have been having problems seem to be of the guys that were here already.

Grain of Salt: Tomorrow is day 4 of training camp[/quote]

I understand what you were saying, and I just wanted to point out positives of some players still on the team.

I like hearing all of the new guys playing well to. The FO hopefully hit on some of the new vets and rookies, and this is an abosolute must if the Redskins are going to be a good team this year.

skinsfan_nn 08-01-2010 02:17 PM

Re: The Official 2010 Training Camp Thread
 
This could be a big season or a break through season for #30 if played correctly, and he is smart. I like him being able to play close to the line of scrimmage, with ears pinned back. Him being out in center field always seemed to be a bad fit for LL IMO.


Landry looking to be big hit in '10

If you ignore the Virginia backdrop, the smattering of fans at Redskins Park and the fact that players aren't in full uniform - if you ignore all of that and just focus on safety LaRon Landry, you might not realize at times that this is just training camp.

Players aren't supposed to tackle out here, but that doesn't mean Landry is going to hold back a hard hit or two.

"It's kind of what you would call a thud tempo," says tight end Chris Cooley. "Most guys just bump up against you when you have the ball. LaRon likes to go into the full tackling mode. He's in scrimmage mode at all times. We talked about it in the locker room and he said, 'Why are you giving me a hard time?' I said, 'You are the only one that tackles. So if
you're going to tackle me I am going to give you a hard time about it. You're going to have to deal with that.'"

And what does Coach Mike Shanahan think?

"I don't mind those hard hits," he said. "I mean, we're going to get those in the game. I love those hard hits."

For Landry, it's the same aggressive mentality that he's always brought to the field, but this year he thinks he'll be placed in position to better channel that energy. Not that he's eager to describe his former role under Coach Jim Zorn.

"This is going to be a whole new year for me. I don't want to talk about it," he says of 2009. "I don't want to talk about it."

But his role before, as described by former defensive coordinator Greg Blache was as an "angel in the backfield." He was often positioned 25-plus yards off the ball. "Don't let anything get behind you," Landry says of his former role. "This year, it's not. It's more aggressive, go and get it. Be smart about it, but go get it, be aggressive."
In camp, he's often been lined up near the line of scrimmage and has blitzed on multiple occasions, a rarity under Blache. He's also looked good in coverage. He had an interception on Sunday that he returned for a touchdown.

He says the new defense will position him to be a play-maker rather than a play-stopper.

"Brand new start, new defense. Involved a little bit more," he said. "Really, it's got a lot of emphasis on me this year. In this defense, strong safety is really a focal point of this defense. A lot more opportunities to make plays."

And though Shanahan is clear that he wants his defenders to wrap guys, Landry won't be shy to bring a big hit.

"You know what you're getting out of No. 30," Cooley says. "He's not making us worse; he's making everyone better. He loves playing the game, he is an extreme competitor and you can't ask for more out of a guy. It's never fun to get tackled the second day of training camp, but it's football."

GMScud 08-01-2010 03:37 PM

Re: The Official 2010 Training Camp Thread
 
Love the stuff I'm reading about Devin Thomas so far. If he stays healthy, I think we can expect big things from him.

Dirtbag59 08-01-2010 04:14 PM

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[quote=GMScud;716293]Love the stuff I'm reading about Devin Thomas so far. If he stays healthy, I think we can expect big things from him.[/quote]

Can you share some of it because I haven't really found anything good about him.


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