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i like the R logo on our helmets, that would be cool

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I love these:

[IMG]http://monkeyinmymind.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/redskins-throwback-uniforms-vs-giants2.jpg[/IMG]


I know they've been posted previously, but I think they look awesome as alternates. Otherwise, I like the uni's we've been wearing for the last 30 or so years.

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I think the kid has some skills but I'm not a fan of the feather helmet. From the side it looks too much like the Browns helmet.... bland. Maybe if there was a way to put something on the side as well... Maybe a calligraphy "W" or a calligraphy "WR".

Personally I liked the Arrow helmet and the scripted "R" helmet shown above. I might try switching up the colors on tue helmet and use Burgundy for the base color and a more Metal flake Gold scripted "R" with the gold and white uni's above.

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[quote=Buster;785139][URL="http://blog.redskins.com/2011/02/17/the-first-fan-created-uniform-of-2011/#continued"]The First Fan-Created Uniform Of 2011[/URL]


I actually gave this kid some advice while he designed them. ;)

He's 15. Kid has some talent.

Love the updated feather helmet.


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[IMG]http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb423/AndrewDeFrank/Redskins%20Concepts/RedskinsHelmetFRONTNologo.png[/IMG]
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These are great. What about preserving the indian image?

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After 40 years of the same helmet logo I'm ready for a change. No different the owning the same car after 40 years. We can always come back to the current Indian head after a couple of years.

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How about someone designing a helmet where the helmet looks like the chiefs head dress so while the players are wearing the helmet they actually look like they are wearing the head dress on their heads. Instead of one feather going down the middle.

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[quote=SBXVII;785244]How about someone designing a helmet where the helmet looks like the chiefs head dress so while the players are wearing the helmet they actually look like they are wearing the head dress on their heads. Instead of one feather going down the middle.[/quote]

I think that's what this helmet is supposed to simulate. I see what you're saying though.

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I don't like the blank sides of the helmet. I also think we should move away from the indian theme. One idea would be a that a updated "R" can be used as it would keep continuity and tradition. I would also like to see more black and less burgundy. Especially on our helmet.

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^ Wow, I never looked at it that way. For some reason it looked like an upside down feather on the helmet. But I'm referring to a full head dress. Perhaps a burgundy helmet with a gold band at the face guard. Then white feathers flowing backward to gold tipped feathers. The reverse could be cool also... Burgundy along the face mask, feathers white feathers flowing backwards in gold trim to burgundy tips to simulate the opponants blood. :)

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Regardless what Jim Zorn may have thought, black isn't in our team colors. I would rather update the design of the jerseys (such as what Summo had on here) but keep the Indian head or go with the spear and feather helmets. Keep some tradition. I'm also not a fan of white jerseys on gold pants. I like the burgundy jerseys on gold, but if they were white tops, I'd stick with the burgundy pants.

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Black is a bad idea. Nothing is better than the Native American Logo. Just an R on the helmet? What are we? Rutgers? We gotta look like a Pro Team even if it doesnt seem like we are run like a Pro team.

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[quote=PHazard;785274]Black is a bad idea. Nothing is better than the Native American Logo. Just an R on the helmet? What are we? Rutgers? We gotta look like a Pro Team even if it doesnt seem like we are run like a Pro team.

Follow me on Twitter @Mr_Redskins for the lastest Redskins News[/quote]

Glad you cleared that up. Its OK to quote me.

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[quote=skinsguy;785256]Regardless what Jim Zorn may have thought, black isn't in our team colors. I would rather update the design of the jerseys (such as what Summo had on here) but keep the Indian head or go with the spear and feather helmets. Keep some tradition. I'm also not a fan of white jerseys on gold pants. I like the burgundy jerseys on gold, but if they were white tops, I'd stick with the burgundy pants.[/quote]


Well I think we all can agree BLACK is not in the teams colors, however neither is WHITE technically. Don't get me wrong... White has been incorporated into the "Burgundy and Gold". So if WHITE can and was incorporated then so to could BLACK be incorporated to replace WHITE as trim.

I think the major problem is half the fans despise change and would prefer to keep the same uni's and helmet forever. The other half are split up into groups that would like to see a modernized retro look and the other half wanting just a modernized look.

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Sorry double post.

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[quote=SBXVII;785318]Well I think we all can agree BLACK is not in the teams colors, however neither is WHITE technically. Don't get me wrong... White has been incorporated into the "Burgundy and Gold". So if WHITE can and was incorporated then so to could BLACK be incorporated to replace WHITE as trim.

I think the major problem is half the fans despise change and would prefer to keep the same uni's and helmet forever. The other half are split up into groups that would like to see a modernized retro look and the other half wanting just [B]a modernized look[/B].[/quote]

Good post. It worked for Tampa Bay.

Further, It is only a matter of time until we will be forced to change our Indian emblem and probably even our name. I think by waiting for that to happen it will cause us to lose our identity as the Redskins completely. Because The change would be dramatic the following season.

Thats why I think we should start making changes to the uniforms now. And have suggested the 'R" on the helmet, but that was just a example. Subtle transitional changes.

I also think our tradition has become one of a losing hard luck "cursed" team. A different look can help to change the mental image that the current uniform projects.

Just for the record, I am not in favor of the liberal movement that threatens to change culture the way it does, but knowing they do and as a country we move in that direction, you can bet on forced change coming to the Redskins real soon.

BTW, black is a Redskins color. HTTR!!!

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I'm not for the "Indian" cause and their complaint about the emblem. I have some Indian in my family and still don't care. I think the people with the complaint need to find a better cause to fight over like the white man taking all their land and never properly paying for it.

Let them open a casino called the caucasion or white skin. Maybe Anglo would be a good name. People need to stop being sooo overly sensitive. If it offends you then don't watch it, don't listen to it, don't purchase the murchandise, better yet become a Cowboys fan.

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[quote=SBXVII;785243]After 40 years of the same helmet logo I'm ready for a change. No different the owning the same car after 40 years. We can always come back to the current Indian head after a couple of years.[/quote]Wtf?

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[quote=tryfuhl;785342]Wtf?[/quote]

All right you got me. I see what your getting at and your right... cars now a days don't last 40 yrs. But one would think anyone with half a brain could figure out what I meant. The 40 yrs was in reference to how long the team has had the current logo and quite possibly longer. But I'm sure the lot of you have gotten a different car within the last 10 or 15 years or sooner. How would you feel if people told you that you were crazy to want a newer car because the old one you had is what people associate you with and that you should keep that same old beat up clunker?

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[IMG]http://www.beyondhelp.net/images/products/wtf-th-w.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=SBXVII;785243]After 40 years of the same helmet logo I'm ready for a change. No different the owning the same car after 40 years. We can always come back to the current Indian head after a couple of years.[/quote]


:Flush:

Wow...


Anyways, your headdress idea has been done and it looks like utter crap. So would ANY Redskins design with black in it.

[IMG]http://detroittransplant.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/redskins2.png?w=356&h=316[/IMG][IMG]http://cdn2.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/152704/cfjuw.jpg[/IMG]

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Ok know we need the retro arrow point or one feather not 20

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[quote=Buster;785420]:Flush:

Wow...


Anyways, your headdress idea has been done and it looks like utter crap. So would ANY Redskins design with black in it.

[IMG]http://detroittransplant.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/redskins2.png?w=356&h=316[/IMG][IMG]http://cdn2.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/152704/cfjuw.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Those suck. This is better

[IMG]http://leftcoastskinzfanartwork.webs.com/pro-comabt-skins-uni-1.png[/IMG]

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[quote=SBXVII;785318]Well I think we all can agree BLACK is not in the teams colors, however neither is WHITE technically. Don't get me wrong... White has been incorporated into the "Burgundy and Gold". So if WHITE can and was incorporated then so to could BLACK be incorporated to replace WHITE as trim.

I think the major problem is half the fans despise change and would prefer to keep the same uni's and helmet forever. The other half are split up into groups that would like to see a modernized retro look and the other half wanting just a modernized look.[/quote]


White is a neutral color that pretty much every team utilizes so that the two teams playing on the field can always be distinguished between each other.

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[quote=44ever;785430]Those suck. This is better

[IMG]http://leftcoastskinzfanartwork.webs.com/pro-comabt-skins-uni-1.png[/IMG][/quote]

Even if the Redskins did decide to implement black as a trim color, this would never work because you are using black as a primary color, and this is not the case for the Redskins color scheme. Their primary color is burgundy and then it's gold. I absolutely hated the unis when Lombardi was here, because he tried to make the Redskins look too much like the Green Bay Packers.

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Just stick with the same with some minor adjustments. Maybe use the R logo instead of the Indian Head. Black looks too much like ATL

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ok the black looks legit but the old fanbase will hate it and will want burgandy as the primary color. The idea could still work if it was shifted to burgandy.

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I think we do need some kind of uniform update.

I liked how the Lions tweaked their uniform and kept it similar, but yet updated.

If we really have a new identity (do we?) and are trying to change the culture, then an updated uniform is in order...

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Solid Snake, your perfectley right. We are now shifting to adraft our players and were addding youth. We need to continue the trend

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[quote=44ever;785430]Those suck. This is better

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Ughhh...No it's not. It's better-quality artwork, but the design is just as horrid.

[quote=musicmaster45;785447]Solid Snake, your perfectley right. We are now shifting to adraft our players and were addding youth. We need to continue the trend[/quote]


That makes absolutely no sense...adjusting the team's identity based on the average age of the roster. :doh:

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[quote=SolidSnake84;785444]I think we do need some kind of uniform update.

I liked how the Lions tweaked their uniform and kept it similar, but yet updated.

If we really have a new identity (do we?) and are trying to change the culture, then an updated uniform is in order...[/quote]

I think uniform changes only work if you've sucked for a long time while having done virtually nothing as a franchise. The Broncos with their 4 Super Bowl losses. The Cardinals winning virtually nothing. The Falcons never posting back to back winning seasons. Eagles never winning a Super Bowl (sure they still haven't won one but they're contenders year in and year out). Tampa with those ugly orange uniforms. Seahawks never having reached a Super Bowl. Patriots loosing their two Super Bowl appearances.

I don't know if 3 Super Bowl wins qualify you for a uniform change turn around. The science is still being studied.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;785480]I think uniform changes only work if you've sucked for a long time while having done virtually nothing as a franchise. The Broncos with their 4 Super Bowl losses. The Cardinals winning virtually nothing. The Falcons never posting back to back winning seasons. Eagles never winning a Super Bowl (sure they still haven't won one but they're contenders year in and year out). Tampa with those ugly orange uniforms. Seahawks never having reached a Super Bowl. Patriots loosing their two Super Bowl appearances.

I don't know if 3 Super Bowl wins qualify you for a uniform change turn around. The science is still being studied.[/quote]


Well we have the one point. We have sucked for a long time, winning nothing. After our last superbowl appearance, we havent been back in 20 years. We have won the division only once since then, in 1999. Since 1992, we have had 15 losing seasons. We've only made 3 trips to the playoffs in that span. The last time we had more than 10 wins was in 1991. I think a uniform change at this point wouldnt hurt anything.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;785444]I think we do need some kind of uniform update.

I liked how the Lions tweaked their uniform and kept it similar, but yet updated.

If we really have a new identity (do we?) and are trying to change the culture, then an updated uniform is in order...[/quote]

Well, technically, the Redskins did change their uniforms. They went from the white pants to Gold pants and went from wearing white jerseys on burgundy pants at home (and mostly on the road) to the burgundy tops and gold at home. We even saw the Redskins wear white jerseys on gold pants at away games. I would say just tweak a bit of what the team already has (again, like what Summo had posted a while back) and don't screw with it too much. If the helmets must change from the Indian head to something else, the only other thing that works in my opinion is the spear and feather. But, I like the Indian head on the helmet. Now, if they want to make him look a bit "meaner" then that's OK, but nothing too cartoonish.

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Probably little to no chance of the Skins making any change to their base uniform. They might toss in a retro look here and there, but a permanent change? Not gonna happen.

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[quote=Mattyk;785545]Probably little to no chance of the Skins making any change to their base uniform. They might toss in a retro look here and there, but a permanent change? Not gonna happen.[/quote]

Good, I consider our look a classic, almost untouchable look. Sure, we'vehad this look for [I]only[/I] 39 years so they don't have the longevity of Chicago or Green Bay's REALLY untouchable sets, but we played in 5 Super Bowls in these uniforms. They represent a lot of tradition.

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[quote=Buster;785569]Good,[B] I consider our look a classic[/B], almost untouchable look. Sure, we'vehad this look for [I]only[/I] 39 years so they don't have the longevity of Chicago or Green Bay's REALLY untouchable sets, but we played in 5 Super Bowls in these uniforms. They represent a lot of tradition.[/quote]

Thats part of the problem. Although I grew up with it.... it's classic. The Indian head has been around for some 30 years plus. Yes it's been tweeked but it's the same helmet. During Gibbs1 he emplimented the white into the uni's or at least more of the white. Gibbs1 era ended 1994 were almost at the 20 yr mark.

If they are afraid to do any major color changes then atleast update the design. I liked the gold pants with the burgundy jersey's.

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no need to fix what isn't broke

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/250056-suitin-up-nfls-worst-to-best-uniforms#page/19]Suitin' Up: NFL's Worst to Best Uniforms | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=SBXVII;785596]Thats part of the problem. Although I grew up with it.... it's classic. The Indian head has been around for some 30 years plus. Yes it's been tweeked but it's the same helmet. During Gibbs1 he emplimented the white into the uni's or at least more of the white. Gibbs1 era ended 1994 were almost at the 20 yr mark.

If they are afraid to do any major color changes then atleast update the design. I liked the gold pants with the burgundy jersey's.[/quote]

I like jerseys without apostrophes.

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[quote=Mattyk;785598]no need to fix what isn't broke

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/250056-suitin-up-nfls-worst-to-best-uniforms#page/19"]Suitin' Up: NFL's Worst to Best Uniforms | Bleacher Report[/URL][/quote]


I'd like to think if the team starts winning then the uni's are a moot point. lol. I like what they did with the burgundy and gold this year. All I'm argueing mostly is the fact that people are against black and the simply reason is "because it's not one of the team colors." All I'm saying is be fair. If black should not be used because it's not the team color then neither should white. The colors are Burgundy and Gold. Period. Now white was used to make the numbers show up better and then it was added to the pants and socks as trim. For some reason during the Gibbs1 era the white jersey some how found its way aboard. So if white can find its way into the uni's then black as a replacement could also. Just don't say "it's not the team colors." Just say "I'm used to white and would prefer it not changed to black."

I could handle a change if the team wanted to. They don't want to change thats fine too. Some of the concepts presented were a little off the chain and some I think are nice. I actually like the black uni, but whatever. As someone else pointed out maybe if they used more burgundy and had black trim. I think the helmet is awsome with the team logo taking up the whole helmet vs. just a circle on each side of the helmet. Use gold or use burgundy instead.

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[quote=Mattyk;785598]no need to fix what isn't broke

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/250056-suitin-up-nfls-worst-to-best-uniforms#page/19]Suitin' Up: NFL's Worst to Best Uniforms | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

They had the Browns at #5 Yuk! Redskins uniforms do look great.

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[quote=Mattyk;785598]no need to fix what isn't broke

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/250056-suitin-up-nfls-worst-to-best-uniforms#page/19"]Suitin' Up: NFL's Worst to Best Uniforms | Bleacher Report[/URL][/quote]

I really have a problem w/ that list. GB i'm ok w/. Chargers at #11? Chargers uni's have got to be top 5. TB, Chi, NE, Indi ahead of the Skins...? TB's are still bad imo. I like NE's old uni's better than the new. Chi's uni are ok, but not above average. The Jet's are not great by any means.