re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

I still can't believe they are waiving the guy after giving up a 3rd rounder for him. Someone's head is gonna roll for that.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

This kind of reminds me of the Vinny-Sherm Lewis moment from last year (or many other Vinny moments of the past couple of years I guess). Where basically the ownership and the rest of the front office in Minnesota don't agree with the move but they've decided to just put it all on Childress now.

It's like they're saying "Ok, Brad, you think this is the right move. We'll do it, but it's 100% on you now. This doesn't work you have no one to blame but yourself and you can find new employment next year"

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

Hmmm....What good is it to bring him aboard when we have no offensive line?

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=Mattyk;755328]I still can't believe they are waiving the guy after giving up a 3rd rounder for him. [B]Someone's head is gonna roll for that[/B].[/quote]

I'll have an order of the [B]Bald Chili[/B] please. Can I get a side of [B]deserves all the blame [/B]in a "[B]he ****ed up[/B]" box. I would like to pay for that now because I'm [B]not gonna be here next year[/B].

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=Takeuon;755340]Hmmm....What good is it to bring him aboard when we have no offensive line?[/quote]

McNabb has had time, AA dropped one. Galloway has missed several long bombs. AA is getting better, but Moss makes several of the long bombs we have missed. He also forces coverage ALOT. Is it a guarantee of success, no, is it a low risk solution, I would say yes. Doesn't cost picks, not a big check, compared to some we have paid out.

Overall, i just don't see much risk, but a good upside if he and McNabb figure it out.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;755359]McNabb has had time, AA dropped one. Galloway has missed several long bombs. AA is getting better, but Moss makes several of the long bombs we have missed. He also forces coverage ALOT. Is it a guarantee of success, no, is it a low risk solution, I would say yes. Doesn't cost picks, not a big check, compared to some we have paid out.

Overall, i just don't see much risk, but a good upside if he and McNabb figure it out.[/quote]

Exactly my thoughts. A lot of people were squeamish about bringing Vincent Jackson in because of the high draft price it would inflict. There is no draft picks we would have to give away. His salary would be minimal. You are not going to tell me that he is worse than a 38 year old Galloway who is losing more and more playing time each week. Or worse than any other WR not named Armstrong or Moss.

I realize everyone is talking about pre madonna this and another haynesworth that, but I seriously think the pros outweigh the cons by A LOT. Not like we are exactly in the division lead right now and I don't see how it could cause us to lose MORE games than if he wasn't here. Get it done.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

I think someone else grabs him before us, that is higher up the wire then us.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=mredskins;755366]I think someone else grabs him before us, that is higher up the wire then us.[/quote]

There really are only a few teams ahead of us that would make sense. Carolina and the Rams to me are the biggest "competitors", the question with both of them is a - money and b - they have young clubs, do they want Moss' locker room style affecting their qb's?

Wish they had put him on the waver wire yesterday...

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

I could see the Jags maybe taking a shot at him. He would certainly help sell some tix and at 4-4 they're still in the hunt. Overall I think there's a fair chance he could make it to us on the list.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

By losing on Sunday did we better ourselves a chance to get him?

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

This sure is ugly...

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/02/some-vikings-players-on-board-with-dumping-moss/]Some Vikings players on board with dumping Moss | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;755331]This kind of reminds me of the Vinny-Sherm Lewis moment from last year (or many other Vinny moments of the past couple of years I guess). Where basically the ownership and the rest of the front office in Minnesota don't agree with the move but they've decided to just put it all on Childress now.

It's like they're saying "Ok, Brad, you think this is the right move. We'll do it, but it's 100% on you now. This doesn't work you have no one to blame but yourself and you can find new employment next year"[/quote]

This rings of a Vinnie decision... ie the T.J. Duckett trade

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=mredskins;755371]By losing on Sunday did we better ourselves a chance to get him?[/quote]

With the loss we are number 15 on the waiver list, if we had won we would have been 23 based on record and schedule strength.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;755331]This kind of reminds me of the Vinny-Sherm Lewis moment from last year (or many other Vinny moments of the past couple of years I guess). Where basically the ownership and the rest of the front office in Minnesota don't agree with the move but they've decided to just put it all on Childress now.

It's like they're saying "Ok, Brad, you think this is the right move. We'll do it, but it's 100% on you now. This doesn't work you have no one to blame but yourself and you can find new employment next year"[/quote]

If that's the case, then it would be interesting to know if Childress even wanted him in the first place.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=Mattyk;755373]This sure is ugly...

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/02/some-vikings-players-on-board-with-dumping-moss/"]Some Vikings players on board with dumping Moss | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL][/quote]

what an asshole. no way does moss act like that in the new england locker room. but what really got me was the pass interference play where he 100% quit on the play once the flag was thrown. all he had to do was look at the ball and it was a td.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;755331]This kind of reminds me of the Vinny-Sherm Lewis moment from last year (or many other Vinny moments of the past couple of years I guess). Where basically the ownership and the rest of the front office in Minnesota don't agree with the move but they've decided to just put it all on Childress now.

It's like they're saying "Ok, Brad, you think this is the right move. We'll do it, but it's 100% on you now. This doesn't work you have no one to blame but yourself and you can find new employment next year"[/quote]

Childress is so fired. If they lose a few more he may not make it through the year.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=skinsfan69;755380]what an asshole. no way does moss act like that in the new england locker room. but what really got me was the pass interference play where he 100% quit on the play once the flag was thrown. all he had to do was look at the ball and it was a td.[/quote]

I wonder if he was doing stuff like that to ensure that he wouldn't get retained by the Vikings next season. I also wonder how out of context those statements were quoted.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=Mattyk;755373]This sure is ugly...

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/02/some-vikings-players-on-board-with-dumping-moss/"]Some Vikings players on board with dumping Moss | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL][/quote]


THIS is why.....Do we REALLY want to deal with this? Does anybody really see a positive relaionship happening with RM and Shanny?
WOW....we are trying to build a franchise for years to come, and we think that this guy is a good supplement to that?
There are reasons why the TO's of the world...RM's get passed around

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=Angry;755382]I wonder if he was doing stuff like that to ensure that he wouldn't get retained by the Vikings next season. I also wonder how out of context those statements were quoted.[/quote]

If he didn't want to come back, all he had to do was refuse to sign a contract with them.

It's not like that sort of behavior is really out of character for him.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

He's trash and its time to take him out of the NFL. F Him.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=Mattyk;755373]This sure is ugly...

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/02/some-vikings-players-on-board-with-dumping-moss/]Some Vikings players on board with dumping Moss | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]

Completely not cool by Moss...dude has some serious issues. Thing is apparently the Vikings have no leadership in the locker room to step up and say something. Thats pretty sad.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=Chico23231;755394]Completely not cool by Moss...dude has some serious issues. Thing is apparently the Vikings have no leadership in the locker room to step up and say something. Thats pretty sad.[/quote]

It is sad. Considering we have the oldest team in the NFL, I would expect at least a few on our team would put him in his place if necessary.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=Mattyk;755385]If he didn't want to come back, all he had to do was refuse to sign a contract with them.

It's not like that sort of behavior is really out of character for him.[/quote]

He has always wanted to play with Favre though and at the time there was still time to right the ship. I wonder if these incidents took place after the last couple of loses. At that point in time he could just have been burning some bridges to make sure that they don't want to retain him after the season is over. I do not think that Randy cares that he got waived, either Minnesota or somebody else is going to pay him for the rest of the season and then he is a UFA.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

If he wants one last big payday, this is not the way to go about it. I have to believe he cares in that regard.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-best-song-ever-made-using-Autotuned-Randy-Mo?urn=nfl-281733]The best song ever made using Autotuned Randy Moss quotes - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

Look at it this way....

Any and all talented #1 WR's in the NFL all have personality issues. I think its just an era thing and all the WR's that are big, talented, and money in this league have issues, in this day and age. But more importantly its how the HC's deal with the prima dona's.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

All #1 WRs don't have issues. Just look at last night's game with Andre Johnson and Reggie Wayne.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=SBXVII;755441]Look at it this way....

Any and all talented #1 WR's in the NFL all have personality issues. I think its just an era thing and all the WR's that are big, talented, and money in this league have issues, in this day and age. But more importantly its how the HC's deal with the prima dona's.[/quote]

Larry Fitz has issues? Anquan Boldin has issues? Puh-lease...

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

he didn't have issues in new england untill they wouldn't pay him. give him a career ending contract and tell him to go long!

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

Looks like Merriman will be waived today according to Jay Glazer:

# Merriman is due $1.7 to 1.8 million remaining on this years. He should have no problem passing. If nobody claims him, longshot, he'll be UFA about 1 hour ago via ÜberTwitter

# Moss may not be only waiver wire name 2day. I'm reporting S Merriman slated to take physical w Bolts 2day.Once he passes he'll be waived too

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

Man I don't know if I would want this clown on the team. If we don't win he becomes a huge problem!

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;755407][URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-best-song-ever-made-using-Autotuned-Randy-Mo?urn=nfl-281733"]The best song ever made using Autotuned Randy Moss quotes - Shutdown Corner - NFL* - Yahoo! Sports[/URL][/quote]


That is hilarious. Thanks for posting.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=SBXVII;755441]Look at it this way....

[B]Any and all talented #1 WR's in the NFL all have personality issues[/B]. I think its just an era thing and all the WR's that are big, talented, and money in this league have issues, in this day and age. But more importantly its how the HC's deal with the prima dona's.[/quote]

That really is an ignorant statement. Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Miles Austin, Steve Smith (Giants), Greg Jennings, Calvin Johnson, Wes Welker, and Hines Ward are all #1 wideouts or former #1's in Ward's case who don't really have personality issues. Moss, T.O., Ocho Cinco, Brandon Marshall, Santonio Holmes, and Vincent Jackson are the only guys who really have that mentality imo.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=Mattyk;755328]I still can't believe they are waiving the guy after giving up a 3rd rounder for him. Someone's head is gonna roll for that.[/quote]

Plus, if he clears waivers, they still have to pay the remaining $3 million left on his contract this season while the team that gets him can pay him the minimum.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

This is interesting:

One more reason to claim WR Randy Moss: team that loses him this off-season in free agency could get back a compensatory draft pick.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=mooby;755496]That really is an ignorant statement. Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Miles Austin, Steve Smith (Giants), Greg Jennings, Calvin Johnson, Wes Welker, and Hines Ward are all #1 wideouts or former #1's in Ward's case who don't really have personality issues. Moss, T.O., Ocho Cinco, Brandon Marshall, Santonio Holmes, and Vincent Jackson are the only guys who really have that mentality imo.[/quote]

Perhaps ignorance to one person is perception to another. If I'm not mistaken Boldin had his issues, Fitzgerald had someone ahead of him who had issues prior to this year... wait wasn't that Boldin? Dallas may have meant for Austin to be their #1 but Dez Bryant or Roy Williams would be my #1 and they have issues. Steve Smith wouldn't be the #1 with the Giants if Buress was still on the team, Buress = issues.

I think a lot of the names given are teams in the same boat as the Skins, we have a bonified #2 WR, like S.Moss, but not a #1. Any of the teams with a Rookie WR need to be given time for their play to swell their heads. As with any player who is one of the best at what they do, they have issues of some type.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

Are you guys NUTS! The Patriots know it. Now the Vikings remember why they got rid of the guy the first time. He does not go all our every play. He loafs. If it's a running play, he loafs. If he think the pass is not coming his way, he loafs. He shows his ass to the crowd. The Redskins are already dealing with the Donovan McNabb and Albert Haynesworth controversy. They do not need another. This bum is too old and lacks effort. NFW.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=SBXVII;755532]Perhaps ignorance to one person is perception to another. If I'm not mistaken Boldin had his issues, Fitzgerald had someone ahead of him who had issues prior to this year... wait wasn't that Boldin? Dallas may have meant for Austin to be their #1 but Dez Bryant or Roy Williams would be my #1 and they have issues. Steve Smith wouldn't be the #1 with the Giants if Buress was still on the team, Buress = issues.

I think a lot of the names given are teams in the same boat as the Skins, we have a bonified #2 WR, like S.Moss, but not a #1. Any of the teams with a Rookie WR need to be given time for their play to swell their heads. As with any player who is one of the best at what they do, they have issues of some type.[/quote]

This all boils down to what our definitions of #1 wideouts are. You apparantly believe a #1 wideout is a mythical being, that is consistently awesome week in and week out. I believe a #1 wideout is a guy who is just consistent. If he catches the majority of the targets thrown at him, and is always there on Sundays, well he's a #1 in my book. So by my definition Moss is a #1. And there's more names that could probably be added to that list. Roddy White is an elite wideout whose' name could go in there with the Andre Johnsons, and Dwayne Bowe/Steve Smith of the Panthers could probably join the T.O.'s of the list.

All I'm saying is that just because a select few #1 wideouts (they are #1 in my book, I'm not gonna debate that with you) have that I want the ball mentality, it doesn't make it right to generalize all wideouts like that. I'm sure there are plenty of guys on that list that would take the ball less if their teams won games.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=hail_2_da_skins;755533]Are you guys NUTS! The Patriots know it. Now the Vikings remember why they got rid of the guy the first time. He does not go all our every play. He loafs. If it's a running play, he loafs. If he think the pass is not coming his way, he loafs. He shows his ass to the crowd. The Redskins are already dealing with the Donovan McNabb and Albert Haynesworth controversy. They do not need another. This bum is too old and lacks effort. NFW.[/quote]

I am guessing you voted No. :cheeky-sm

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=SBXVII;755532]Perhaps ignorance to one person is perception to another. If I'm not mistaken Boldin had his issues, Fitzgerald had someone ahead of him who had issues prior to this year... wait wasn't that Boldin? Dallas may have meant for Austin to be their #1 but Dez Bryant or Roy Williams would be my #1 and they have issues. Steve Smith wouldn't be the #1 with the Giants if Buress was still on the team, Buress = issues.

I think a lot of the names given are teams in the same boat as the Skins, we have a bonified #2 WR, like S.Moss, but not a #1. Any of the teams with a Rookie WR need to be given time for their play to swell their heads. As with any player who is one of the best at what they do, they have issues of some type.[/quote]

Are you a #1 WR by chance?

:cheeky-sm