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[quote=Dirtbag59;812808]Slightly OT but I didn't want to start a new thread on the topic. Does anyone feel like Kurt Warner is a little biased against any and all QB's? I don't know why but I feel like he's ultra critical of anyone that isn't an UDFA fighting for their very life.

Like one second he was talking about how Cam Newton needed to learn how to work hard and be dedicated to learn the playbook, then after Florio said there were reports of Newton working with Weinke for 12 hours a day Warner started talking about working smart.

Maybe I'm overanalyzing but for some reason I don't like Kurt Warner the analyst.[/quote]

No your probably correct. All he's doing is spitting what almost every other media pundit pushed down our throats.... that Newton was not a very hard worker. He could have probably answered a lot better then he did. In other words instead of working out with some hack teaching him to throw better or take a better drop back he could have been studying the plays and working with his WR's. But like you said I'm guessing no matter what was said he would still have said Newton needs to work harder and smarter.

Maybe he just feels like the UDFA's need to work extra hard to prove their worth and the drafted QB's don't work as hard because they already know they have a job. I don't know, he's an idiot.

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[quote=SBXVII;812822]No your probably correct. All he's doing is spitting what almost every other media pundit pushed down our throats.... that Newton was not a very hard worker. He could have probably answered a lot better then he did. In other words instead of working out with some hack teaching him to throw better or take a better drop back he could have been studying the plays and working with his WR's. But like you said I'm guessing no matter what was said he would still have said Newton needs to work harder and smarter.

Maybe he just feels like the UDFA's need to work extra hard to prove their worth and the drafted QB's don't work as hard because they already know they have a job. I don't know, he's an idiot.[/quote]

Actually I was about to take back my initial assumptions about Warner being against every QB that was a first round pick as he just threw in a vote of confidence for Jay Cutler. So it's not that he's against first round picks he's just a raging racist :D

Though the more likely explanation is he can't say anything bad about a QB working under his boy Mike Martz.

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you know, orton would be a good signing here... but i don't think that's going to happen.

I think we resign rex, moss and brown, we make a play for another WR (though the most likely guys we could get without throwing a billionty dollars would be Br Edwards or Pl Burress).

I think jenkins is pretty likely, then we need an OT/OG type, a starting CB, and a good LB and DL guy, though both could be more mid level. I'd love tulloch or similar at LB, and at CB rogers is probably the most efficient buy, though again, I think the skins are letting him walk... which means we need to get somebody, cromartie, ike or JJ being the most likely.
For OL, i'd love doug free, just to steal him from dallas (not that he wouldn't help us out). D Joseph would be great too, but not likely.

can't wait. hopefully we dont massively overpay the wrong guys again. (btw, most of the WRs are thrash character wise, which is sad. I still think edwards or plax (if he's ready to go) could help us the most, but i realize the off field red flags are, you know, huge).

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OK, on my ProFootball Weekly app...

Baltimore has told a few top Vets their services won't be needed this year.

RB Willis McGahee
NT Kelly Gregg
TE Todd Heap
WR Derrick Mason

I'd be interested in the NT and maybe the WR.

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[quote=SBXVII;812979]OK, on my ProFootball Weekly app...

Baltimore has told a few top Vets their services won't be needed this year.

RB Willis McGahee
NT Kelly Gregg
TE Todd Heap
WR Derrick Mason

I'd be interested in the NT and maybe the WR.[/quote]

I was surprised when I read this news, since Ravens convinced Mason to continue playing after considering retirement (two years ago I believe). I don't want anyone except for Gregg, he might fill in NT nicely for us.

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Those Ravens moves look like cap cuts more than anything. I'd bet a few of those guys end up back with them at a lower price tag.

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I agree unless they get a really good offer elsewhere.

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[QUOTE]let me get this started..not saying it will happen.. but the Redskins are going 2 check on Orton , 2 wee what it will take[/QUOTE]


Well, apparently the Skins are looking into Orton after all. :( A tweet from another insider on another forum this morning.

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Dolphins rumored to be making a trade offer for Orton.

[url=http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-hyde-miami-dolphins-nfl-lockout-0720110725,0,5796737.column?track=rss]Miami Dolphins: Will Dolphins land QB Kyle Orton? - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com[/url]




Although I do not believe we need any WRs (unless we can get Rice), Malcolm Floyd is now not re-signing with SD since Vincent Jackson is going to sign his 1 year, $11+ million contract.

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Denver is looking to unload Orton quickly. Doesn't hurt to see what they would be willing to take.

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Seahawks released OL Stacy Andrews.

"Mark Herzlich to decide on team soon after 10am. Ravens, Giants, Eagles among the contenders"

[url=http://twitter.com/#!/adbrandt]Twitter[/url]

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I'm not sure if this is real or BS because it seems like a lot of fans are just writing stuff.

Breaking News via HRNY4ZRNY twitter


Edit: this was BS... sorry.
Redskins trade McNabb and Haynesworth to the Bengals for Carson Palmer and Ochocinco

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[quote=SBXVII;813003]I'm not sure if this is real or BS because it seems like a lot of fans are just writing stuff.

Breaking News via HRNY4ZRNY twitter


Edit: this was BS... sorry.
Redskins trade McNabb and Haynesworth to the Bengals for Carson Palmer and Ochocinco[/quote]


LMAO Yeah even the bengals aren't that dumb

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Another possible BS story is the Skins looking into Orton. Checking to see what it would take to get him.

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I'd give a 3rd for Orton

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[quote=SBXVII;813003]I'm not sure if this is real or BS because it seems like a lot of fans are just writing stuff.

Breaking News via HRNY4ZRNY twitter


Edit: this was BS... sorry.
Redskins trade McNabb and Haynesworth to the Bengals for Carson Palmer and Ochocinco[/quote]

Yeah you might want to stick with the reliable sources.

Something tells me HRNY4ZRNY is not one of them.

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I'd love to get J.J or Cromartie

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I disagree with the evaluation of Grossman than most of you. I don't care how many yards he threw or touchdowns he threw for in garbage time. At the end of the day he threw too many picks at clutch times. That still show the bad decision making he had as part of the Bears. NO Thanks

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[quote=SBXVII;813003]I'm not sure if this is real or BS because it seems like a lot of fans are just writing stuff.

Breaking News via HRNY4ZRNY twitter


Edit: this was BS... sorry.
Redskins trade McNabb and Haynesworth to the Bengals for Carson Palmer and Ochocinco[/quote]

Horny for Zorny? :D

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[quote=diehardskin2982;813009]I disagree with the evaluation of Grossman than most of you. I don't care how many yards he threw or touchdowns he threw for in garbage time. At the end of the day he threw too many picks at clutch times. That still show the bad decision making he had as part of the Bears. NO Thanks[/quote]


It's why we need Orton, smart and accurate QB.. Tall and has a good arm

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[quote=skinsfaninok;813008]I'd love to get J.J or Cromartie[/quote]

Definitely Cromartie.

He and Hall = no where to throw, pick 6 threat on both sides!

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latest is Orton to Dolphins

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[quote=Monkeydad;813013]Definitely Cromartie.

He and Hall = no where to throw, pick 6 threat on both sides![/quote]


Landry and Atogwe also... WOW

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[quote=skinsfaninok;813014]latest is orton to dolphins[/quote]

booooooo!!!

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For the value, I would rather try to swing a trade for Matt Flynn, or bring in Leinart because he knows the system.

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No to Leinart yes to Flynn

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[quote=skinsfaninok;813024]No to Leinart yes to Flynn[/quote]

Why, we could put in hot tubs in the new party decks like some baseball parks have them. Leinart would obviously be the player representative in charge. Make runs out there during the game. That's what he's good at.

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Jason Reid was on the junkies and he said that he's heard us linked to some big name players but no QBs. WRs and DLine is what he's heard us linked to.

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Orton 41 Tds in the last 2 years

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[quote=CultBrennan59;813028]Jason Reid was on the junkies and he said that he's heard us linked to some big name players but no QBs. WRs and DLine is what he's heard us linked to.[/quote]

Good. So we can't trade "in theory" today with FAs?

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We're in "serious discussions" (whatever that means) with Braylon Edwards

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We've contact Braylon and Santonio according to redskins insider on twitter

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[quote=SmootSmack;813081]We're in "serious discussions" (whatever that means) with Braylon Edwards[/quote]

Ugh.....hes still not done in court. Faces up to six months jail time....etc etc

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[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6534/mark-herzlich]Mark Herzlich - New York Giants - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

Herzlich signed with the Giants.

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Redskins have reportedly told Moss he should test the market.

My guess is they'll use the market to determine what, if anything, to offer him. But bottom line is it doesn't seem keeping him is a priority

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[quote=SmootSmack;813088]Redskins have reportedly told Moss he should test the market.

My guess is they'll use the market to determine what, if anything, to offer him. But bottom line is it doesn't seem keeping him is a priority[/quote]

That sucks I really wanted him to resign. Does this make the probability of him not being with the team this year high now?

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I wouldn't waste a 3rd round pick on Orton, when the Redskins will most likely be in the running for Luck or Barkley next year. If they go after Holmes, Edwards, etc. then there's no need to sign Moss.

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how serious is serious with Edwards? And dang I'll miss Moss

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;813092]I wouldn't waste a 3rd round pick on Orton, when the Redskins will most likely be in the running for Luck or Barkley next year. If they go after Holmes, Edwards, etc. then there's no need to sign Moss.[/quote]

Barkley maybe, but Luck, seriously? You really think we are in the running for the 1st overall pick?

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Ill say this. I believe wwe will resign santana moss, and we will also sign sidney rice. Rice moss and aa. Just turned our wr situation from below average to above average. Now, get orton to sling them the ball, and a NT and Center. Maybe even Nnamdi. I still have my fingers crossed. Ive heard some rumors that Nnamdi is going to the 49ers tho.........Hope that doesnt happen.