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Kolb is going to get 5 years, $63M, with $20M guaranteed?!

Wow.

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[quote=Mattyk;815416]Kolb is going to get 5 years, $63M, with $20M guaranteed?!

Wow.[/quote]This is also a good example of overpaying a player I like.

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[quote=Ruhskins;815410]Brad Smith to the Bills...

"Adam Schefter
Bills reach agreement with former Jets WR Brad Smith on a 4-yr, $15 million deal."[/quote]

Man that's a slick move. Will be interesting to see what Gailey does with Thigpen, Smith, and CJ SPILLLERRRRRRR!!!!!

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[quote=GTripp0012;815417]This is also a good example of overpaying a player I like.[/quote]

Desperate move by Arizona.

They could have had Orton for a lot less and kept DRC.

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[quote=NC_Skins;815406]Andy Reid needs to get HC/GM/Executive of the year. Fleecing us on McNabb, and turning around and fleecing Arizona with Kolb. The rich get richer. It's a good thing his play calling is suspect and his clock management is putrid.[/quote]

This trade is even more impressive than when he got a 2nd round pick from Miami for AJ Feeley

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[quote=Mattyk;815416]Kolb is going to get 5 years, $63M, with $20M guaranteed?!

Wow.[/quote]

Yeah. I actually like the Cards and generally wish them well. But this is insane. I just don't think Kolb is worth it.

In consecutive years, Philly dumps two QB and gets a starting corner, two seconds and a fourth. Nice.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;815424]Yeah. I actually like the Cards and generally wish them well. But this is insane. I just don't think Kolb is worth it.

In consecutive years, Philly dumps two QB and gets a starting corner, two seconds and a fourth. Nice.[/quote]


while improving at QB...
but im sure they are about to dump a shit ton of money into Vick

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Now we have to deal with Samuels and Cromartie on the Eagle corners.
:mad:

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[quote=Alvin Walton;815428]Now we have to deal with Samuels and Cromartie on the Eagle corners.
:mad:[/quote]


wow really....better then samuels and NA i guess...

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Philly should do likewise and drop $70 mil on DRC. I'm kidding.

Or am I?

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[quote=SKINSnCANES;815431]wow really....better then samuels and NA i guess...[/quote]


for some reason when you posted I was thinking of Antonio Cromartie...forgot they got DRC in the trade. and didnthave to spend 20 mil a year to get a top corner....damn them

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[quote=Mattyk;815416]Kolb is going to get 5 years, $63M, with $20M guaranteed?!

Wow.[/quote]

And people talk about us overspending on a backup player who showed promise while playing sparingly. That's crazy money. I hope he is the Cards' franchise qb because I like them and I'd hate to see them look like Dallas after what they gave up for Roy Williams.

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Lot of movement in the East. It seems like Dallas is due for a big splash.

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Philly is going ot trade their 2nd round pick to the Pats for Haynesworth so the patriots can have half the picsk in the second round

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[quote=Mattyk;815416]Kolb is going to get 5 years, $63M, with $20M guaranteed?!

Wow.[/quote]

I hear if you google bank robbers, Kevin Kolb's picture will come up.

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[quote=GTripp0012;815411]Thats...a long year.[/quote]

"In the last 18 months, the Eagles have traded two QB's for two 2nd round picks, a 4th round pick, and a 25-yr old CB with 13 career INT's."

18 months...close lol

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[quote=12thMan;815440]Lot of movement in the East. It seems like Dallas is due for a big splash.[/quote]
They can't afford a big splash. Re-signing Doug Free is their big move.

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[quote=NC_Skins;815442]I hear if you google bank robbers, Kevin Kolb's picture will come up.[/quote]

And Andy Reid's

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This Orton to Miami trade is starting to flatline. We need it to pick back up, otherwise Young might be a Dolphin

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Jags making some great moves. First, Posluszny...now LB Clint Session.

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Vince Young has been released.
I know a lot of you think he's a bit of a loon but some of his issues have been debunked. And you cant deny that hes a pretty good QB.
I think if we grab him plus considering the huge moves we made this week we can be a + .50 team.
Lets get this boy in DC!

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I'd take VY, speaking of QBs Kyle Orton had a "great" practice today in Denver.. Hmm maybe they'll keep him afterall

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Bills talking to Tyson Clabo

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[quote=SmootSmack;815484]This Orton to Miami trade is starting to flatline. We need it to pick back up, otherwise Young might be a Dolphin[/quote]


Yeah now all of the sudden Denver may keep him.. We do need to hurry

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If you had to pick one of the two, who would you pick: Vince Young or Kyle Orton? Curious to know why people wanna pick up a headcase but talented qb from Tennessee.

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[quote=mooby;815595]If you had to pick one of the two, who would you pick: Vince Young or Kyle Orton? Curious to know why people wanna pick up a headcase but talented qb from Tennessee.[/quote]


Orton, always have been a fan of his.. Smart, Accurate, Good arm

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[quote=mooby;815595]If you had to pick one of the two, who would you pick: Vince Young or Kyle Orton? Curious to know why people wanna pick up a headcase but talented qb from Tennessee.[/quote]

Orton without a doubt, but he doesn't seem to be on our radar.

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[quote=mooby;815595]If you had to pick one of the two, who would you pick: Vince Young or Kyle Orton? Curious to know why people wanna pick up a headcase but talented qb from Tennessee.[/quote]


Without having to give up draft picks? Orton. Not even a discussion really.



Having to give up draft picks? Young. Not even a discussion really.

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[quote=Mattyk;815598]Orton without a doubt, but he doesn't seem to be on our radar.[/quote]

He should be. Do it Bruce.

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[quote=mooby;815595]If you had to pick one of the two, who would you pick: Vince Young or Kyle Orton? Curious to know why people wanna pick up a headcase but talented qb from Tennessee.[/quote]

Vince Young. For one thing, you won't have to trade for him. For another, the headcase thing is getting a bit overblown in my opinion. For yet another, Young is more of an overall playmaker in my opinion. Even further, and I don't have this in front of me, going next level on some of his stats he looks less impressive. I don't mind Orton but I prefer Young out of the two

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Hate to say it but Philly makes a lot of sense for VY.

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[quote=SmootSmack;815618]Vince Young. For one thing, you won't have to trade for him. For another, the headcase thing is getting a bit overblown in my opinion. For yet another, Young is more of an overall playmaker in my opinion. Even further, and I don't have this in front of me, going next level on some of his stats he looks less impressive. I don't mind Orton but I prefer Young out of the two[/quote]

Taking the trade out of the equation if you could pick either one straight up who would you take? Just curious.

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Matt Moore...I'd probably still give the edge to Young...but seriously, I think teams are missing out by not going after Matt Moore

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[quote=Mattyk;815620]Hate to say it but Philly makes a lot of sense for VY.[/quote]


I don't because I think VY is a starter in the NFL, Vick will be the guy for a few more years

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i'd take VY as backup/package guy or orton as the starter... straight up right now orton will win more games with what we have. they want a high pick or they'll just keep him though, which makes sense.

having too many starting QBs never hurts.

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Ocho to Pats?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/28/ochocinco-hints-hes-heading-to-the-patriots/]Ochocinco hints he’s heading to the Patriots | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;815625]I don't because I think VY is a starter in the NFL, Vick will be the guy for a few more years[/quote]

Doubtful that he's going to start anywhere this year though. He's gonna have to sit and earn his way back.

With Vick's style of play you never know how long he could be around for. He blows out a knee and all bets are off.

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I think VY would start in WSH, over Beck and Rex.. But yeah true on MV7, Never know his durability

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[quote=skinsfaninok;815632]I think VY would start in WSH, over Beck and Rex.. But yeah true on MV7, Never know his durability[/quote]

If he had a full offseason I could see him winning the job here, but coming in right now? Really doubt it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;815618]Vince Young. For one thing, you won't have to trade for him. For another, the headcase thing is getting a bit overblown in my opinion. For yet another, Young is more of an overall playmaker in my opinion. Even further, and I don't have this in front of me, going next level on some of his stats he looks less impressive. I don't mind Orton but I prefer Young out of the two[/quote]

Agree. Philly will prob sign VY 3yr contract & in 2yr trade him for a 2nd rd pick philly know's how to rehab a career.