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Redskins beat the giants twice and would do it again. The g men just played well in th playoffs against choke artist Matt Ryan, injuries can never be an excuse, everyone out there is an NFL caliber player, 11 skins > 11 giants the two matchups speak for themselves and there is no arguing that

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I like Tebow and his story is a good one as it has been said before. I think the annoyance comes from the ultra-hype from the media and fans. If Tebow can improve his passing game, he is going to be a starter in the NFL for a long time.

That said, he had a lot of help in winning this game. D. Thomas was RIDICULOUS and it is a bit sad that his amazing game will get lost in Tebow-mania. The Steelers were banged up and got even more banged up during the game. Finally, Dick LeBeau was not able to adjust to Tebow actually passing the ball (including in the game winning pass).

Tebow should be highly commended for not screwing up and for doing so in such a huge stage (playoffs). He made the right passes at the right time. And in the end, he took advantage of a huge opportunity. I truly hope Denver beats the Patriots next week, but unfortunately for them they won't be facing a hobbled up Brady.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;874239]Yeah the media annoys the hell out of me. I like Tebow (Loved him in his florida gator days), but the more attention he gets [B]the more jesus-y he gets[/B], and the more the media debates over him...it gets so annoying.[/quote]

Are you saying that it is him getting more "Jesus-y" or the media portraying that on him?

PS I drew the Bronco's symbol with Tim Tebow #15 on a post it note this morning and stuck it on my shirt. A girl that works with me thats a big Steelers fan ripped it off, tore it up and threw it in the trashcan. Mission accomplished for 1/9/12.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;874239]Yeah the media annoys the hell out of me. I like Tebow (Loved him in his florida gator days), but the more attention he gets the more jesus-y he gets, and the more the media debates over him...it gets so annoying.[/quote]

I agree, but that's no fault of Tim's. The media is absolutely ridiculous with their coverage of him. And he has been very humble with deflecting the praise to his teammates and coaches. Whenever anyone mentions "Tebow Time" to him, he says it's actually Bronco time. He also heaped plenty of praise, deservedly so, on D. Thomas.

Pretty cool that after the game, Tim spent his time with a little girl who has suffered through 73 surgeries. Most players his age would be focusing on getting laid/drunk after a game like that. He's a kid that just gets it.

Being a Florida Gator, I'm obviously extremely biased, but I wish Tim Tebow nothing but the highest level of success personally and professionally. This country needs more role models like him, and he's great for the NFL.

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[quote=GMScud;874254]I agree, but that's no fault of Tim's. The media is absolutely ridiculous with their coverage of him. And he has been very humble with deflecting the praise to his teammates and coaches. Whenever anyone mentions "Tebow Time" to him, he says it's actually Bronco time. He also heaped plenty of praise, deservedly so, on D. Thomas.

Pretty cool that after the game, Tim spent his time with a little girl who has suffered through 73 surgeries. Most players his age would be focusing on getting laid/drunk after a game like that. He's a kid that just gets it.

Being a Florida Gator, I'm obviously extremely biased, but I wish Tim Tebow nothing but the highest level of success personally and professionally. This [B][U]country needs more role models like him[/U][/B], and he's great for the NFL.[/quote]


Aint that the truth!! He's got a murderers row of villians to get through to get to the Super Bowl. One down. If Tebow makes it through thoses guys he should be admitted into the Justice League

Big Ben:
Belichick and Brady:
Ray Lewis possibly: Pun intended

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[quote=SkinzWin;874251]Are you saying that it is him getting more "Jesus-y" or the media portraying that on him?

PS I drew the Bronco's symbol with Tim Tebow #15 on a post it note this morning and stuck it on my shirt. A girl that works with me thats a big Steelers fan ripped it off, tore it up and threw it in the trashcan. Mission accomplished for 1/9/12.[/quote]

well, both, because the media always brings up his faith, and whenever he's being interviewed by the media we always have to hear the whole Jesus , Jesus, can't do it without jesus, jesus this jesus that, I'm still a virgin (don't believe that), coach fox has faith in me mr. elway has faith in me, yeah its that on NFLN, ESPN, ESPN2, CBS, FOX, NBC, Hallmark, etc.

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[quote=Pigskins;874246]Redskins beat the giants twice[/quote]

Thanks , did'nt know that.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;874261]well, both, because the media always brings up his faith, and whenever he's being interviewed by the media we always have to hear the whole Jesus , Jesus, can't do it without jesus, jesus this jesus that, I'm still a virgin (don't believe that), coach fox has faith in me mr. elway has faith in me, yeah its that on NFLN, ESPN, ESPN2, CBS, FOX, NBC, Hallmark, etc.[/quote]



Sorry no , the media's not bring it up ...he gets up n that podeum and says "I want to that God and that other shit " and then....any questions? No it's not the media ...it's him and he needs to start thanking the other Bronco players around him.

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Kinda crazy in this day and age when everyone complains that the media only focuses on the negative, here they are focusing on one of the truly good guys and there's backlash over it. :doh:

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[quote=Giantone;874265]Sorry no , the media's not bring it up ...he gets up n that podeum and says "I want to that God and that other shit " and then....any questions? No it's not the media ...it's him and he needs to start thanking the other Bronco players around him.[/quote]

He's a man of strong faith. So what? Better than other knuckleheads who thank god and go beat their girlfriends. At least he practices what he preaches. He thanks the lord all the time. Who cares? Pretty weak to criticize a guy for that.

And if you don't think he deflects praise to his teammates and coaches constantly, then you're just not paying attention.

Guys like skip bayless who I like, have made the tebow situation what it is today. I swear everyday for two months on first take they talk about tebow and his religion.. just let it go please

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[quote=Giantone;874265]Sorry no , the media's not bring it up ...he gets up n that podeum and says "I want to that God and that other shit " and then....any questions? No it's not the media ...it's him and he needs to start thanking the other Bronco players around him.[/quote]

Your in the 1% club. :FIREdevil just keep heading south you cant miss it. JK

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;874277]Your in the 1% club. :FIREdevil just keep heading south you cant miss it. JK[/quote]


sorry , you and Skip Bayless are the 1%.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;874275]Guys like skip bayless who I like, have made the tebow situation what it is today. I swear everyday for two months on first take they talk about tebow and his religion.. just let it go please[/quote]

My only beef with Tebow mania is this idea that he magically just wins games. Like in the past when Tebow has struggled and the defense did virtually all the heavy lifting Tebow ends up with virtually all the credit.

I mean we don't have to break everything down to the last decimal of Pi but I'm not to crazy about being extremely vague when it comes to dolling out credit.

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My last word on tebow for the next few days; Beat NE, then I'll be a huge believer.

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Tebow is Tebow I think the whole drama around him is cool. If you don't like it change the channel. If you say it is everywhere not true, my mom didn't know who he was until yesterday.

Also if it wasn't Tebow and all his followings yesterday probably would have been one of the most boring Wild Card Weekends in recent memory.

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[quote=Giantone;874262]Thanks , did'nt know that.[/quote]

Congrats on not injecting a bunch of injury excuses with that.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;874291]My last word on tebow for the next few days; Beat NE, then I'll be a huge believer.[/quote]

I have foreseen this. As I foretold last week. The .500 and below playoff teams always win the first round. They never win the second round.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;874315][B]I have foreseen this.[/B] As I foretold last week. The .500 and below playoff teams always win the first round. They never win the second round.[/quote]

So has Belichick :FIREdevil

[IMG]http://blog.m-lynge.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Emperor-Palpatine.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Ruhskins;874316]So has Belichick :FIREdevil

[IMG]http://blog.m-lynge.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Emperor-Palpatine.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

We shall make Tebow learn the ways of the dark side. IE we'll convert him to Scientology.

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Wonder how Tebow will react when he finds out Buddy Ryan is his real father with Rex and Rob as siblings. Tebow will bring balance back to the NFL.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;874307]Congrats on not injecting a bunch of injury excuses with that.[/quote]

....no excuses just facts.

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McNabb finally begins his TV career. Should be a good addition.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;874324] Tebow will bring back balance to the NFL.[/quote]


???,huh?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;874327]McNabb finally begins his TV career. Should be a good addition.[/quote]

Is Sanford and Son coming back on???

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[quote=GMScud;874254]I agree, but that's no fault of Tim's. The media is absolutely ridiculous with their coverage of him. And he has been very humble with deflecting the praise to his teammates and coaches. Whenever anyone mentions "Tebow Time" to him, he says it's actually Bronco time. He also heaped plenty of praise, deservedly so, on D. Thomas.

Pretty cool that after the game, Tim spent his time with a little girl who has suffered through 73 surgeries. Most players his age would be focusing on getting laid/drunk after a game like that. He's a kid that just gets it.

Being a Florida Gator, I'm obviously extremely biased, but I wish Tim Tebow nothing but the highest level of success personally and professionally. This country needs more role models like him, and he's great for the NFL.[/quote]

I could not have said it any better. Except I'm no Gator fan.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;874284]My only beef with Tebow mania is this idea that he magically just wins games. Like in the past when Tebow has struggled and the defense did virtually all the heavy lifting Tebow ends up with virtually all the credit.

I mean we don't have to break everything down to the last decimal of Pi but I'm not to crazy about being extremely vague when it comes to dolling out credit.[/quote]

Good point. In those games during that 7-1 stretch, Tebow made some huge plays in the 4th qtr/OT to set up Denver for those wins, but the D carried them through the games to allow those opportunities for Tim and the offense. The media hype did little to acknowledge that, but anyone who knows anything about football understood it was just as much or more about the D as it was about Tebow.

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[quote=mredskins;874300]Tebow is Tebow I think the whole drama around him is cool. If you don't like it change the channel. If you say it is everywhere not true, my mom didn't know who he was until yesterday.
[B]
Also if it wasn't Tebow and all his followings yesterday probably would have been one of the most boring Wild Card Weekends in recent memory[/B].[/quote]

That game was the highest rated wild card game since 1988. It's estimated that by the start of overtime, about 45 million people were watching. Great stuff.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/09/steelers-broncos-was-highest-rated-wild-card-game-in-24-years/]Steelers-Broncos was highest-rated wild-card game in 24 years | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;874340]That game was the highest rated wild card game since 1988. It's estimated that by the start of overtime, about 45 million people were watching. Great stuff.

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/09/steelers-broncos-was-highest-rated-wild-card-game-in-24-years/"]Steelers-Broncos was highest-rated wild-card game in 24 years | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

so what , it was the only football on.

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[quote=Giantone;874342]so what , it was the only football on.[/quote]

Um, the point is it was the highest rated wild card game in nearly a quarter of a century. That's a big deal.

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One other take away about Tebow and the media.

As much as they love building him they wait for the day to tear him down more so.

Here is something else I thought about Tebow and by know means am I a god loving JC loving born again you know type.

What if god in all his wisdom said to himself, "what if I created someone that embodied all materialistic things people desire (money, good looks, professional athlete, etc...) and was still able follow my word (God's). Not to say there are not others out there like that but Tebow is really in your face.

I guess I am just trying to say in today's world we seem to embrace "negative" behavior almost to the point that it is glorified and now here comes along a straight and narrow kid that seems to have it all.

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It is refreshing to see Tebow and rookie Cam Newton shut the mouths of all of those people that say a so-called "unconventional Qb" can not do well in the NFL. That the incredible NFL defenses will eat them alive. Pittsburgh defense looked lost.
Nobody thought Cam Newton would do as well as he did after going to a terrible Carolina team. I don't think anyone saw this coming. To see Cam Newton running plays from his college days and being productive. Then the former coach of Carolina Fox do the same thing with Tebow. Pittsburgh could not stop the old college Shotgun option play. Talented running Qb's can be successful if they are allowed to play to their strengths instead of forcing them to do what they can not.
I think the NFL FO's and the so-called experts need get off their ego trips and re-think how they judge talent. How many great QB's were tossed aside because they did not fit the Peyton Manning drop back passer mold? It is a shame.
Playing good defense and running the ball is not a lost art, especially in the playoffs. It will be very interesting to see the Pats vs. Broncos game. New England has no defense and weak running game. It will be interesting.

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[quote=Giantone;874265]Sorry no , the media's not bring it up ...he gets up n that podeum and says "I want to that God and that other shit " and then....any questions? No it's not the media ...it's him and he needs to start thanking the other Bronco players around him.[/quote]
Perhaps, in the off-season he'll shoot himself in the leg while frequenting a strip joint...and then you can feel more....comfortable with him.....

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[quote=Hog1;874349]Perhaps, in the off-season he'll shoot himself in the leg while frequenting a strip joint...and then you can feel more....comfortable with him.....[/quote]

LMAO!!!:rofl:

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[quote=Hog1;874349]Perhaps, in the off-season he'll shoot himself in the leg while frequenting a strip joint...and then you can feel more....comfortable with him.....[/quote]

Well played, sir. Well played.

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[quote=Defensewins;874346]It is refreshing to see Tebow and rookie Cam Newton shut the mouths of all of those people that say a so-called "unconventional Qb" can not do well in the NFL. That the incredible NFL defenses will eat them alive. Pittsburgh defense looked lost.
Nobody thought Cam Newton would do as well as he did after going to a terrible Carolina team. I don't think anyone saw this coming. To see Cam Newton running plays from his college days and being productive. Then the former coach of Carolina Fox do the same thing with Tebow. Pittsburgh could not stop the old college Shotgun option play. Talented running Qb's can be successful if they are allowed to play to their strengths instead of forcing them to do what they can not.
I think the NFL FO's and the so-called experts need get off their ego trips and re-think how they judge talent. How many great QB's were tossed aside because they did not fit the Peyton Manning drop back passer mold? It is a shame.
Playing good defense and running the ball is not a lost art, especially in the playoffs. It will be very interesting to see the Pats vs. Broncos game. New England has no defense and weak running game. It will be interesting.[/quote]

NFL FOs want drop back passers because thats what wins in the pros. When an unconventional (aka running) QB wins something they might reconsider but in the biggest copycat league of they all the FOs will stick with what they know works.

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[quote=Hog1;874349]Perhaps, in the off-season he'll shoot himself in the leg while frequenting a strip joint...and then you can feel more....comfortable with him.....[/quote]

Guffaw!

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[quote=Defensewins;874346]It is refreshing to see Tebow and rookie Cam Newton shut the mouths of all of those people that say a so-called "unconventional Qb" can not do well in the NFL. That the incredible NFL defenses will eat them alive. Pittsburgh defense looked lost.
Nobody thought Cam Newton would do as well as he did after going to a terrible Carolina team. I don't think anyone saw this coming. To see Cam Newton running plays from his college days and being productive. Then the former coach of Carolina Fox do the same thing with Tebow. Pittsburgh could not stop the old college Shotgun option play. Talented running Qb's can be successful if they are allowed to play to their strengths instead of forcing them to do what they can not.
I think the NFL FO's and the so-called experts need get off their ego trips and re-think how they judge talent. How many great QB's were tossed aside because they did not fit the Peyton Manning drop back passer mold? It is a shame.
Playing good defense and running the ball is not a lost art, especially in the playoffs. It will be very interesting to see the Pats vs. Broncos game. New England has no defense and weak running game. It will be interesting.[/quote]
Well, Cam Newton also proved that he could play (and dominate) the "conventional" aspects of QB play. So, he was able to "conform" to "tradition". His passing was actually one of his strengths, but not many folks saw it, I guess.

I think that GMs have been fairly willing to take mobile QBs high, but the spread option was simply not being employed in those times.

But yeah, Tebow, might start a complete paradigm shift on how to utilize the running game to set up the pass. It's the "new play action", so to speak. Good ol' running plays will still be used, but in tandem with these plays that involve the QBs running the ball in draws and option plays. If Tebow can improve his accuracy some more and get more comfortable, the league better watch out. I mean, the Denver O in its current state already forced the Steelers to stack the box and be forced to employ one or no safeties over the top in order to try and stop them, but they got burnt(23 points in regulation against the Steelers is pretty good no matter how you put it).

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I guess I should have rephrased my original post better. In no ways do I hate Tebow, just Tebow mania.

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This story is much better than the norm of catching player in hotel with hookers and a pile of blow. Refreshing! !!