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[quote=itvnetop;989255]While I was reading the deadspin story, that's the assumption I got. I can't see any other explanation for it... being embarrassed about an online relationship doesn't lead to a magnitude of this cover-up. He's Mormon and an athlete in an alpha male environment- two reasons why he may have felt compelled to have a virtual "beard" so to speak.

That or he's just mentally ill.[/quote]

A Mormon football player at Notre Dame

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[quote=SmootSmack;989258]A Mormon football player at Notre Dame[/quote]

The triple whammy.

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I never understood that. Not just a mormon football player, but a guy from nice tropical Hawaii who had offers to go to ANY SCHOOL in the country, and he turns down BYU, USC, Florida, Bama, UCLA, Texas and so on for Notre Dame who wasn't a winning team at all, where its bad weather and bad football. I mean yeah I know the whole ''Notre Dame is a historic school and used to be a power house'' but c'mon they were awful and there was no way he knew they would eventually be National Title contenders, just doesn't make sense to me.

Then again he could be gay after seeing what he wore at the Heismann ceremony...
[IMG]http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/834/955/hi-res-158012511_display_image.jpg?1355853620[/IMG]

...(I kid, I kid I know its a lei)

A couple of funny things I saw on Twitter today:

Seth Meyers ‏@sethmeyers21
These Te'o jokes are all very funny but let's all try and remember that a person who never existed is dead.

Lou Holtz ‏@PretendLouHoltz
I could seesh Marth May making up a prethend girlfriendsh buth noth you Manthi!


--This just in now an NFL player says that she is a real person--this story keeps getting weirder and weirder

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This is the craziest sh** ever in the sports world. God people are weird.

So did he make the story up or what??

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;989266]So did he make the story up or what??[/QUOTE]

No. He fell for some girl online that he never met. I mean I know he is just a kid, but you have to be pretty naive or crazy to be talking about your "girlfriend" on TV and you never even met her? I firmly believe he thought she was real. Either way it is one of the most ****ed up unbelievable stories i have ever heard. Oh, and you should watch catfish on mtv - its about online relationships. Hysterical.
Edit: wow - it was already the all time headscratcher after i saw the segment on espn about it. Now after reading the link SS posted im ****ing confused as all hell.
The man needs to hold a press conference and tell the whole true story - gay - fake - live - dead - whatever.....

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[quote=Mattyk;989251]Maybe LaVar is gay and that's how he sniffed him out.[/quote]lol

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[quote=punch it in;989267]No. He fell for some girl online that he never met. I mean I know he is just a kid, but you have to be pretty naive or crazy to be talking about your "girlfriend" on TV and you never even met her? I firmly believe he thought she was real. Either way it is one of the most ****ed up unbelievable stories i have ever heard. Oh, and you should watch catfish on mtv - its about online relationships. Hysterical.[/quote]

No. You obviously didn't read the article linked earlier on the page. Many times, He claimed to have met her more than once and talked to her every night on the phone. So if you firmly believe he thought she was real then you must also firmly believe he suffers from schizophrenia.

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;989269]No. You obviously didn't read the article linked earlier on the page.[/QUOTE]

I didn't go back and see it now I see

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[quote=skinsfaninok;989270]I didn't go back and see it now I see[/quote]

I was actually replying to punch, who formed an opinion and went on a mini-rant when he obviously hadn't read the story to even understand the situation.

I'm just excited to have something to talk about other than a certain injury to our quarterback

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;989271]I was actually replying to punch, who formed an opinion and went on a mini-rant when he obviously hadn't read the story to even understand the situation.

I'm just excited to have something to talk about other than a certain injury to our quarterback[/QUOTE]

Lol and now I see the NFL player from Arizona say she's real and he was "close " to her also.... Lol this chick must get around

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Last bit of Manti Te'o I want to bring up:

A) Where will he be drafted if this is a hoax which he made up?

B) Regardless of the answer to question A, would you draft Manti if he fell to us in the 2nd?

C) I think this commentor on profootballtalk.com's comment section said it best:

"fox6117 says:
Jan 16, 2013 6:58 PM
He has an easy out here folks: he’s going to claim to be gay and he made this girlfriend up to avoid being blackballed by the Heisman voters and NFL teams… that are clearly anti-gay.

He’ll become the ultimate victim having to make up something so outrageous because college and professional sports don’t accept gay players. He’ll get the support of the gay community and will be the first ever openly gay NFL player."

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[quote=skinsfaninok;989273]Lol and now I see the NFL player from Arizona say she's real and he was "close " to her also.... Lol this chick must get around[/quote]

Or Reagan Mauia's gay too

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;989277]Or Reagan Mauia's gay too[/QUOTE]

True

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The whole story is beyond comprehension right now

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;989271]I was actually replying to punch, who formed an opinion and went on a mini-rant when he obviously hadn't read the story to even understand the situation.

I'm just excited to have something to talk about other than a certain injury to our quarterback[/QUOTE]

Well i saw the story on espn, which doesnt exactly line up with the article. So, you really have no idea what is true and what is not do you BHA? None of us do rite now. Im glad you think u understand the situation though. You are the only one in the free world who understands it rite now. Lol. Excuse my "rant".
Edit: one thing is for sure rite now : either he was in on it or he wasnt. Our opinions seem to differ. To call my opinion an uneducated rant because i didnt read an article that you read is - well - just wrong.

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[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;989274]Last bit of Manti Te'o I want to bring up:

A) Where will he be drafted if this is a hoax which he made up?

B) Regardless of the answer to question A, would you draft Manti if he fell to us in the 2nd?

C) I think this commentor on profootballtalk.com's comment section said it best:

"fox6117 says:
Jan 16, 2013 6:58 PM
He has an easy out here folks: he’s going to claim to be gay and he made this girlfriend up to avoid being blackballed by the Heisman voters and NFL teams… that are clearly anti-gay.

He’ll become the ultimate victim having to make up something so outrageous because college and professional sports don’t accept gay players. He’ll get the support of the gay community and will be the first ever openly gay NFL player."[/QUOTE]

Its really the only thing that makes any sense. Lol.
A) dont think it will affect his draft status. Its not a criminal act in anyway to the best of my knowledge.
B) I think he is overrated just like Notre Dame was.

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Somewhere there is a motive to do this, there is a reason. Hopefully this doesnt end tragically.

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Manti could be doing half the chicks on campus easily. He choses to share his feelings over the phone with a girl he has never met? hmmmmmm

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I just hope he truly is a victim in all this and there's not more that we don't know yet.

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[quote=Chico23231;989321]Manti could be doing half the chicks on campus easily. He choses to share his feelings over the phone with a girl he has never met? hmmmmmm[/quote]

Well, ND women aren't exactly the hottest women in the country([url=http://coedmagazine.com/2009/12/22/the-downfall-of-notre-dame-explained-with-pictures/]The Downfall of Notre Dame Explained with Pictures «[/url] ), but yes good point.

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[quote=Mattyk;989334]I just hope he truly is a victim in all this and there's not more that we don't know yet.[/quote]

Finding it harder to believe that he and that Tuiasasopo kid weren't in on all this together

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[quote=SmootSmack;989336]Finding it harder to believe that he and that Tuiasasopo kid weren't in on all this together[/quote]

What about the ND investigation???

lol

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He's a pathological liar. It's painfully obvious his story is so full of shit and he got caught. He needs to go see a shrink and get some serious help.

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I'd take him on the Redskins!

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[quote=punch it in;989282]Well i saw the story on espn, which doesnt exactly line up with the article. So, you really have no idea what is true and what is not do you BHA? None of us do rite now. Im glad you think u understand the situation though. You are the only one in the free world who understands it rite now. Lol. Excuse my "rant".
Edit: one thing is for sure rite now : either he was in on it or he wasnt. Our opinions seem to differ. To call my opinion an uneducated rant because i didnt read an article that you read is - well - just wrong.[/quote]

It's well documented that he claimed to have met her in person. Now, it's possible he never did and just lied about it so he didn't sound like a loser. There is back tracking being done now, but he obviously lied about some details.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;989274]Last bit of Manti Te'o I want to bring up:

A) Where will he be drafted if this is a hoax which he made up?

B) Regardless of the answer to question A, would you draft Manti if he fell to us in the 2nd?

C) I think this commentor on profootballtalk.com's comment section said it best:

"fox6117 says:
Jan 16, 2013 6:58 PM
He has an easy out here folks: he’s going to claim to be gay and he made this girlfriend up to avoid being blackballed by the Heisman voters and NFL teams… that are clearly anti-gay.

He’ll become the ultimate victim having to make up something so outrageous because college and professional sports don’t accept gay players. He’ll get the support of the gay community and will be the first ever openly gay NFL player."[/quote]

I suggested option c earlier in this thread as well. Even if he's not gay, his best move from a PR standpoint would be to say he is. Suddenly he'd go from being a liar to being a victim and a hero.

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[quote=SmootSmack;989336]Finding it harder to believe that he and that Tuiasasopo kid weren't in on all this together[/quote]

If that's the case I'd cross him off my draft board if I was an NFL team. He's got some serious 'splaining to do.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;989344]I suggested option c earlier in this thread as well. Even if he's not gay, his best move from a PR standpoint would be to say he is. Suddenly he'd go from being a liar to being a victim and a hero.[/quote]

If he is not gay he should not cover up a lie with another lie. If he says he is gay and gets caught with a woman at any point in his career... I can only imagine what people would say, especially folks from the gay community.

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[quote=donofriose;989347]If he is not gay he should not cover up a lie with another lie. If he says he is gay and gets caught with a woman at any point in his career... I can only imagine what people would say, especially folks from the gay community.[/quote]

Covering up a lie with an even bigger one, yeah not the best course of action.

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[quote=Mattyk;989345]If that's the case I'd cross him off my draft board if I was an NFL team. He's got some serious 'splaining to do.[/quote]

Why? He didn't commit a crime or anything. Although he played like crap against Bama he could be a good potential replacement for Fletch.

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[quote=skinsfan69;989351]Why? He didn't commit a crime or anything. Although he played like crap against Bama he could be a good potential replacement for Fletch.[/quote]

Depends on how deep the rabbit hole goes, but I could see teams having serious trust issues with the kid and questions about his decision making and overall character. He's not undraftable, but again depending on how deep this thing goes I think it could be enough of a red flag for some teams to cross him off their board.

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[quote=donofriose;989347]If he is not gay he should not cover up a lie with another lie. If he says he is gay and gets caught with a woman at any point in his career... I can only imagine what people would say, especially folks from the gay community.[/quote]

Claiming to be gay while not would be the worst career move he could make.

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[quote=Mattyk;989354]Depends on how deep the rabbit hole goes, but I could see teams having serious trust issues with the kid and questions about his decision making and overall character. He's not undraftable, but again depending on how deep this thing goes I think it could be enough of a red flag for some teams to cross him off their board.[/quote]Agreed, and one thing I heard on the radio this morning was that a people felt like he would be slightly over-drafted* based on his intangibles like leadership character, and now that pretty much goes out the window.

[I]*I don't watch a ton of college football so I can't say for certain this is really the case, just saying what I heard.[/I]

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what is his specialty? does he do anything particularly well?

i'm telling you, he's a derek smith type at best:
career may last close to a decade
career may include plenty of starts
career may not include any pro bowls
should probably do better than smith's 13.5 career sacks / 4 career ints / 3 career forced fumbles

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;989355]Claiming to be gay while not would be the worst career move he could make.[/quote]Especially for a devout Mormon!

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Has any of his past girlfriends come out and said anything?

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;989358]Especially for a devout Mormon![/quote]

Mormon with Tattoo's.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;989358]Especially for a devout Mormon![/quote]

All the mormon churches in Hawaii say they have no records of Te'o or his family ever being in the mormon churches.... [COLOR="White"]:) I'm joking just stirring the pot [/COLOR]