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[quote=RedskinRat;970846]Hey, I think the Redskins just beat the defending SB champions!

:woot:[/quote]

Come on guys...let's Zorn it just this one time.

Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray!

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I had to trun the volume down on my TV a few times when the skins fans started going off. I may have a blown speaker and the neighbors may have called the cops.

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[quote=53Fan;970851]Come on guys...let's Zorn it just this one time.

Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray![/quote]:lol: i hope your fist was in the air when you did that

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cut garcon and his bum toe. fire shananananahan. burn kyle and jim alive. they're terrible. we're done.


oh wait.

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[quote=los panda;970854]:lol: i hope your fist was in the air when you did that[/quote]

Lol! Absolutely! Iggles..beaten down! Cowgirls..beaten down! Gnats..beaten down! Fist pump..fist pump..fist pump! Life as a Redskin fan has suddenly become more pleasurable than painful. Gotta love it! :)

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[quote=FRPLG;970844]For those complaining about the red zone screens. The first was an ok call but the Giants had it defended out of the box. It wasn't a "bad" call. A decent call at the wrong time. [B]The ensuing WR screen did seem odd but it would have worked if it had been executed better in terms of blocking.[/B] I think it was Paulsen who whiffed on blocking the slot guy who essentially held the play up long enough for the DL to pursue and kill it. I'd contend it was a good call that didn't get executed.[/quote]

I just think that was the perfect example of Kyle tying trying to outsmart himself. How about pump faking the wr screen to get the safties to move and then throw over the middle to the TE. Now that would've been the perfect play call! :woot:

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[quote=That Guy;970857]cut garcon and his bum toe. fire shananananahan. burn kyle and jim alive. they're terrible. we're done.


oh wait.[/quote]

I'm still for burning Jim alive. :)

Gotta throw someone under the bus.

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That wishbone pitch to Moss followed by the WR screen made me wonder what the eff was Kyle Shanahan trying to do? You not going to run those plays on the Giants defense with success. Maybe the WR screen if it's set up properly with the right play calls. But that was a wasted drive.

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[quote=12thMan;970840]I'd have to think Mr. Snyder would make Kyle the highest paid OC in the league if/when he starts entertaining offers.[/quote]

Agreed. I am very worried about him getting snagged for a HC position somewhere in the off season. We shall see.

Side note: I went to the game last night and I was so irritated by how long it took to "automatically review" turnovers and scoring plays. I wish that they had someone upstairs automatically reviewing these so they don't have to make a dramatic 10 minute confirmation bs.

I know networks probably are cashing in at every opportunity to go to a tv timeout- but it really affected the flow of the game.

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Also, I love Kai Forbath.

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[quote=RobH4413;970870]Also, I love Kai Forbath.[/quote]me too, if i had to choose between perfection on field goals or perfection on kickoffs, i'd choose field goals.

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I have to agree with an earlier post, I think a lot of what we think look ridiculous, and seem gadgety, are thrown in there to really mess with the pass rush. You gotta admit, those ends not only looked confused but would attack aggressively a lot of times on plays that weren't even happening. I can't count how many times the ends curled back to the running back or flanked out wide just to have Griff blow past them or turn with the ball and make a pass over the middle.

His plays may seem like gimmicks or mistakes at sometimes, but we just clowned some of the best pass rush in the NFL, to the point were they were not just physically exhausted, but mentally too. I loved when the Camera would be on JPP, Osi or Tuck, and they just looked dumbfounded like they had no idea how to stop or read whatever the hell it was that the Redskins where doing. Made me smile quite a lot.

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By the way, I wish we could wear that uniform combo every week. Burgandy on gold is sweet.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;970766]"A handful of plays that didn't work"?!? C'mon man!

On what magical offense does [I]every[/I] play "work"? Did every play Green Bay, New England, San Francisco, etc. etc. etc. ... "work"??

DEAR GOD give credit where it is f'ing due! KS & MS have a scheme for their QB that, according to every single analyst paid to analyze football, has said "Wow! That's f'ing brilliant". Sure, RGIII drives it to perfection, but that's b/c KS & MS built it just for him.

We just put 200+ ground yards on the defending SB champions. On offense, we put a 2nd half drive together that ate up clock and scored a TD on a ridiculous play that, I bet, the Giants still haven't figured out. We then ran the ball down their gut and, thanks to doing so, pulled off a beautiful 20 yard play action that all but sealed the game.

Enough is enough. If the best you've got is "a handful of plays didn't work", please take that weak sauce someplace else to debate. I, for one, think it is B f'ing S.[/quote]

playcalling was alot better last night... few shaky moments but thats just kyle... theres always a few head scratchers but overall, as a kyle basher, he is starting to get it IMO

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[quote=los panda;970872]me too, if i had to choose between perfection on field goals or perfection on kickoffs, i'd choose field goals.[/quote]

every time.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;970868]That wishbone pitch to Moss followed by the WR screen made me wonder what the eff was Kyle Shanahan trying to do? You not going to run those plays on the Giants defense with success. Maybe the WR screen if it's set up properly with the right play calls. But that was a wasted drive.[/quote]

that's the play i was talking about. i was like...."WTF KYLE!!!!!????"

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[quote=RobH4413;970870]Also, I love Kai Forbath.[/quote]

I concur. I really like this kid Kai Forbath. Our first franchise kicker since Chip Lohmiller.

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[quote=Ruhskins;970843]I thought it was ridiculous that a blatant hold on Kerrigan was highlighted by the MNF crew. Like WTF?![/quote]

Trust me the Giants hold all the time and the majority were not called. In the first game it was their Center who would hold or grab jersey all day. Last night it was the Guards and Tackles. Especially on 3rd downs. Why the refs were not calling it I don't know.

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By the way, a little something extra from our owner: [url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000105740/article/dan-snyder-animated-after-washington-redskins-win]Dan Snyder animated after Washington Redskins' win - NFL.com[/url]

I have to say, I like it. Good for you, Mr. Snyder.

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That was a nasty knee injury suffered by Locklear.
[url=http://bustedcoverage.com/2012/12/04/giants-lineman-sean-locklears-knee-isnt-supposed-to-bend-that-way-video/]Giants Lineman Sean Locklear’s Knee Isn’t Supposed To Bend That Way [VIDEO] | BustedCoverage – Sports Gossip | Drunk Athletes | Hot Cheerleaders | Football News[/url]

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FCKN-A!!

Great great win last night. First off...

[B]GREAT GAME HASLETT!![/B] Ya I said it. No secondary and no pash rush and we still hold them to 16. Bend don't break, clamp down in the red zone and make them kick FGs. The defense we saw last night is as good as it gets with this squad. The guy is cooking with rotten ingredients but produced one delicious meal last night. Full props.

KS - [B]Put this guy in the canon too[/B]. Awesome. Did you see the formations and playfakes we were running at them?? The guy uses formations I couldn't even dream up in Madden. 4 guys in the backfield, pistol options, trips sets, etc. etc. etc. Granted RG is fantastic at the play fake but let's give KS credit here. The offense looks state-of-the-art.

Pigskins for President.

Cobra Kai - Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssstraight thru the uprights.

[quote=el.jeffe58;970662]I am so excited, after being a diehard fan from another city (Chicago) with no ties whatsoever to DC, since 1972, this guy Griffin makes me cry with joy every week. I'm ecstatic and we have been blessed as fans just as was Baylor.[/quote]

Amen brother. My thoughts exactly (with a couple tweaks)...

I am so excited, after being a diehard fan from another city (Montreal) with no ties whatsoever to DC, since 1981, this guy Griffin makes me cry with joy every week. I'm ecstatic and we have been blessed as fans just as was Baylor.

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[quote=calia;970889]By the way, a little something extra from our owner: [url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000105740/article/dan-snyder-animated-after-washington-redskins-win]Dan Snyder animated after Washington Redskins' win - NFL.com[/url]

I have to say, I like it. Good for you, Mr. Snyder.[/quote]got to admit, when he took his hand out of the cookie jar, and let allen in the kitchen, he finally started to grow on me.

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I gotta agree with the CrazyCanuck, while Kyle's scheme's seemed a bit off at times, the Giants Defensive End's rarely had any idea what the heck was going on. The plays may look goofy but I can imagine standing there ready to blitz and being like "wait, RB, FB, and a WR surround the QB and there are 3 TE's... who do i chip? Who to I drop to cover for, wait am I blitzing, which one of these guys is gunna' pick me up.... well none of them did last time, so what does that mean on this play?" Meanwhile, small motion by Paulsen who goes back to his original spot, a quick hike and Morris sticking his helmet in my chest.

Me getting up whit Al-Mo standing half on top of me.... "What the hell just happened?" and hearing First down Alfred Morris on the speakers.

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[quote=los panda;970895]got to admit, when he took his hand out of the cookie jar, and let allen in the kitchen, he finally started to grow on me.[/quote]

And he was overheard saying it, so it isn't like he's out there trash talking or making quotes about our opponents, unlike the owers of the two teams we just beat. And given the salary cap sanction, it is entirely natural for him to feel that way about the Giants.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;970890]That was a nasty knee injury suffered by Locklear.
[url=http://bustedcoverage.com/2012/12/04/giants-lineman-sean-locklears-knee-isnt-supposed-to-bend-that-way-video/]Giants Lineman Sean Locklear’s Knee Isn’t Supposed To Bend That Way [VIDEO] | BustedCoverage – Sports Gossip | Drunk Athletes | Hot Cheerleaders | Football News[/url][/quote]

I just can't stop watching it. My God. That's awful.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;970682]Another unsung hero is Trent Williams, Giants got "0" sacks.[/quote]

I mean the stat is nice, but RG3 got trucked on several drop backs. It was kind of the theme of the first half and Gruden spoke to it at length. This offense just can't pass protect. It's a legit concern.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;970898]I just can't stop watching it. My God. That's awful.[/quote]

Yeah, that's gotta be a break on top of some tears, have they announced anything officially yet?

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[quote=Giantone;970702]Nice win ,congratulations to all the Skins and their fans.[/quote]

You're a stand up guy G...

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[quote=The Goat;970900]I mean the stat is nice, but RG3 got trucked on several drop backs. It was kind of the theme of the first half and Gruden spoke to it at length. This offense just can't pass protect. It's a legit concern.[/quote]

I thought the Redskins offensive line did a great job keeping Griffin III healthy and upright. The Giants defensive front are great at penetrating and Griffin III got rid of the ball in time to avoid sacks. But the Giants pass rush is almost impossible to completely contain.

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Also a lot of those hits were clearly after Griff had released the ball, some may have been, but I'm not calling roughing the passer cause i don't expect anyone to be able to stop their momentum in mid air after sprinting as hard as they can at someone.

I'd say the line managed fine, Now Trent did miss one arm tackle that they highlighted on TV but other then that his blocking was stellar all around getting to second level blocks on almost every play.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;970779]A month or two ago, i think Smoot said/implied there was mutual interest to varying degrees with several teams and it was all but garaunteed he'd be somewhere else next year. I really hope there's some way we can keep him. He and RGIII are obviously working well together and i think switching offensive coordinators would only stunt the offense. I can't imagine someone else coming in and doing as good a job as Kyle.

I guess it really depends on how long Mike plans to coach. If we really just wants to coach out the rest of his contract, then i could see snyder/allen convincing Kyle to stay if they promised making him the HC when his dad retires. If Mike has no intention of retiring anytime soon, then Kyle is gone... and i'm worried he'd go to Philly or Dallas.[/quote]

I'm more worried about Roman or Gruden going to Philly or Dallas. And I still think it's basically irrelevent who schemes our offense. We have the most dynamic QB in the league right now and plenty of talent surrounding him. If this regime can get the defense right (top 10 say) we'll be a contender for the SB, but that's the big ? at this point.

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Offense can't pass protect but the Giants had no sacks last night. Man Goat is a dumbass.

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[quote=The Goat;970913]I'm more worried about Roman or Gruden going to Philly or Dallas. And I still think it's basically irrelevent who schemes our offense. We have the most dynamic QB in the league right now and plenty of talent surrounding him. If this regime can get the defense right (top 10 say) we'll be a contender for the SB, but that's the big ? at this point.[/quote]i ain't scurred, neither of those teams has a griff.

dallas' sun is setting, and who knows what foles is made of.

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[quote=The Goat;970913]I'm more worried about Roman or Gruden going to Philly or Dallas. And I still think it's basically irrelevent who schemes our offense. We have the most dynamic QB in the league right now and plenty of talent surrounding him. If this regime can get the defense right (top 10 say) we'll be a contender for the SB, but that's the big ? at this point.[/quote]

Irrelevant unless it's a failed play...then it's Kyle's fault right?

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What are the odds that dally drafts that QB up for the Heisman this year to copy us.....

Sounds like a sure fire Jarrah move to me.

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[quote=Hail to the SteelSkins;970917]What are the odds that dally drafts that QB up for the Heisman this year to copy us.....

Sounds like a sure fire Jarrah move to me.[/quote]

Him or Barkley.

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Looking forward the Seattle schedule really worries me. They could be 10-6 a whole lot easier than we can, they have Arizona buffalo San Fran and the rams and all but buffalo are home games...

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[quote=Hail to the SteelSkins;970911]Also a lot of those hits were clearly after Griff had released the ball, some may have been, but I'm not calling roughing the passer cause i don't expect anyone to be able to stop their momentum in mid air after sprinting as hard as they can at someone.

I'd say the line managed fine, Now Trent did miss one arm tackle that they highlighted on TV but other then that his blocking was stellar all around getting to second level blocks on almost every play.[/quote]

That's what I meant the hits came just after the release. The first one was just nasty.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;970914]Offense can't pass protect but the Giants had no sacks last night. Man Goat is a dumbass.[/quote]

Huh? Pay attention to the games kiddo, RG3 got smashed several times. Who cares whether he's holding the ball at that moment the slams are still going to take their toll.

To put it in reverse, Manning was sacked but otherwise hardly got touched.

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[quote=cdskins26;970919]Looking forward the Seattle schedule really worries me. They could be 10-6 a whole lot easier than we can, they have Arizona buffalo San Fran and the rams and all but buffalo are home games...[/quote]49ers and rams aren't going to be cakewalks, and the cards have already beaten them. we'll see how it shakes out