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As for the poll I have a hard time as for who to go for, there's definitely a joint game ball going to Forbath, Cousins, RG3 and Crawford. All 4 played major roles in earning the W today.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;973397]Its football and he had to sacrifice his body to help the team win. QBs who stay in the pocket like Big Ben take the worse hits.[/quote]

I wouldn't say he exactly HAD to. I mean the guy was completely throwing his body around out there this game. But there's no questioning his passion and dedication. Dude wants to win, even if he's destroying his body in the process.

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[quote=12thMan;973388]HTTR 24_7 saying MRI negative. NOT CONFIRMED.[/quote]


[B]
LL ‏@HTTR24_7

But it does sound like Griffin III will be fine. Can't say officially yet. [/B]

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[quote=Gary84Clark;973393]DHall has a severe ankle sprain.[/quote]

Exactly!! nobody is playing like an all-star in the backfield. Let's look at possibly the best cornerback in the game -- Champ Bailey. Win or lose, the guy is a class act. Never throws his teammates under the bus or mouths off when he gives up a big play. DHall has been statistically show to be the worst, or very near the worst starting cornerback in this league.

[url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2011/worst-cornerback-charting-stats-2010]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Worst Cornerback Charting Stats 2010[/url]

Lead by example DHall whether you play well or not.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;973404][B]
LL ‏@HTTR24_7

But it does sound like Griffin III will be fine. Can't say officially yet. [/B][/QUOTE]

Who is LL@HTTR24_7?

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[quote=Gary84Clark;973397]Its football and he had to sacrifice his body to help the team win. QBs who stay in the pocket like Big Ben take the worse hits.[/quote]

Does sacrificing your body so that it is a 3rd and 4 when you could have slid to make it a 3rd and 6 help the team win?

And where in my post did I say he should stay in the pocket? I said he needs to slide and avoid hits completely because, let's be honest, his 218 lb frame can't take hits from guys like Ngata who outweigh him by more than a 100 lbs.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;973408]Does sacrificing your body so that it is a 3rd and 4 when you could have slid to make it a 3rd and 6 help the team win?

And where in my post did I say he should stay in the pocket? I said he needs to slide and avoid hits completely because, let's be honest, his 218 lb frame can't take hits from guys like Ngata who outweigh him by more than a 100 lbs.[/quote]

Its hard telling a competitor to slide. Look at Vick everyone has been telling him to slide but he fights for every inch. I think it comes down to him learning how to go through progressions and realizing running is his absolutely last option and when he does sprint for the sideline. But teaching someone to slide that plays like him is almost impossible. He has that Elway factor to him that will fight for every inch when he scrambles.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;973408]Does sacrificing your body so that it is a 3rd and 4 when you could have slid to make it a 3rd and 6 help the team win?

And where in my post did I say he should stay in the pocket? I said he needs to slide and avoid hits completely because, let's be honest, his 218 lb frame can't take hits from guys like Ngata who outweigh him by more than a 100 lbs.[/quote]

he was running....less severe injuries happen when running and diving than in the pocker absorbing hits. Ask Cutler

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RG3 could avoid those injuries by sliding feet first

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[quote=donofriose;973410]Its hard telling a competitor to slide. [B]Look at Vick [/B]everyone has been telling him to slide but he fights for every inch. I think it comes down to him learning how to go through progressions and realizing running is his absolutely last option and when he does sprint for the sideline. But teaching someone to slide that plays like him is almost impossible. He has that Elway factor to him that will fight for every inch when he scrambles.[/quote]

I love self-defeating arguments -- LOOK AT VICK!!! all that talent which is in a sense wasted because he doesn't play smart. If you're really a competitor, and not an imbecile, you realize that you would rather sacrifice some meaningless yards now for 5 more years of playing rather than get those yards and be out of the game much sooner than you would like. Is Tom Brady not competitive because he doesn't sacrifice his body in the same way?

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[quote=Gary84Clark;973411]he was running....less severe injuries happen when running and diving than in the pocker absorbing hits. Ask Cutler[/quote]

Dude, read my post, I am saying he should slide. That hit he took was completely unnecessary and he accomplished nothing by taking it.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;973408]Does sacrificing your body so that it is a 3rd and 4 when you could have slid to make it a 3rd and 6 help the team win?

And where in my post did I say he should stay in the pocket? I said he needs to slide and avoid hits completely because, let's be honest, his 218 lb frame can't take hits from guys like Ngata who outweigh him by more than a 100 lbs.[/quote]

This stuff just makes me face-palm. If he's just going to sit back there and take a sack, we might as well have started Grossman and kept the picks. If you insist RG3 stops all of his "RG3-ness', we're right back to square one and possibly wouldn't have won a game all year.

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[quote=Gtothearry;973406]Who is LL@HTTR24_7?[/quote]

A 10 year old sending out BS, made up stuff, to all of twitter making everyone who is a skins fan believe him.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;973415]I love self-defeating arguments -- LOOK AT VICK!!! all that talent which is in a sense wasted because he doesn't play smart. If you're really a competitor, and not an imbecile, you realize that you would rather sacrifice some meaningless yards now for 5 more years of playing rather than get those yards and be out of the game much sooner than you would like. Is Tom Brady not competitive because he doesn't sacrifice his body in the same way?[/quote]

Brady sacrifices his body by hanging in their till the last minute until so he can throw to his receiver. Why does Big Ben get injured? Because he waits until the last minute and then throws the ball. They might not be scrambling because they know they can't but they are competitive for every yard in their own way. Remember when Brady tore his ACL? its because he was waiting until the last minute to throw it downfield. So Brady, Big Ben, Manning all sacrifice their bodies they just do it in a different way buy hanging in the pocket in order to make the proper throw. Griffin does it by scrambling and hanging in the pocket until the last minute. Manning needed neck surgeries because he took hits in order to get the ball downfield. Great quarterbacks are competitive for every yard in their own ways.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;973417]Dude, read my post, I am saying he should slide. That hit he took was completely unnecessary and he accomplished nothing by taking it.[/quote]

It happens all the time. I mean (and I HATE cliches) but hindsight is 20/20. There are a number of instances this year where he COULD have slid and the game might have had a different outcome.

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[quote=12thMan;973388]HTTR 24_7 saying MRI negative. NOT CONFIRMED.[/quote]

That is confirmed

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[quote=CultBrennan59;973419]A 10 year old sending out BS, made up stuff, to all of twitter making everyone who is a skins fan believe him.[/quote]

You're funny...and wrong

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It's knee sprain. Per Redskins.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;973419]A 10 year old sending out BS, made up stuff, to all of twitter making everyone who is a skins fan believe him.[/quote]

Not even close.

He's worth the follow on Twitter.

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[quote=donofriose;973420]Brady sacrifices his body by hanging in their till the last minute until so he can throw to his receiver. Why does Big Ben get injured? Because he waits until the last minute and then throws the ball. They might not be scrambling because they know they can't but they are competitive for every yard in their own way. Remember when Brady tore his ACL? its because he was waiting until the last minute to throw it downfield. So Brady, Big Ben, Manning all sacrifice their bodies they just do it in a different way buy hanging in the pocket in order to make the proper throw. Griffin does it by scrambling and hanging in the pocket until the last minute. Manning needed neck surgeries because he took hits in order to get the ball downfield. Great quarterbacks are competitive for every yard in their own ways.[/quote]

I suppose...still, I guess hindsight is 20/20 and RG3 really should not have taken that hit. Good points.

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One question, what was worse in the game, Marv Albert or defense?

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;973422]That is confirmed[/QUOTE]

That is great news!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;973418]This stuff just makes me face-palm. If he's just going to sit back there and take a sack, we might as well have started Grossman and kept the picks. If you insist RG3 stops all of his "RG3-ness', we're right back to square one and possibly wouldn't have won a game all year.[/quote]

Good point -- still, given that hindsight is 20/20, on that one play, RG3 made a really bad decision not sliding and taking a ferocious hit from two much larger men. Can we agree on that?

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[quote=donofriose;973420]Brady sacrifices his body by hanging in their till the last minute until so he can throw to his receiver. Why does Big Ben get injured? Because he waits until the last minute and then throws the ball. They might not be scrambling because they know they can't but they are competitive for every yard in their own way. Remember when Brady tore his ACL? its because he was waiting until the last minute to throw it downfield. So Brady, Big Ben, Manning all sacrifice their bodies they just do it in a different way buy hanging in the pocket in order to make the proper throw. Griffin does it by scrambling and hanging in the pocket until the last minute. Manning needed neck surgeries because he took hits in order to get the ball downfield. Great quarterbacks are competitive for every yard in their own ways.[/quote]

Well said.

Just to add... football is a rough game. RG3's style of play is going to lend himself to taking some hits now and then. Shit happens.

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[quote=Mattyk;973425]Not even close.

He's worth the follow on Twitter.[/quote]

You and Smoot seem to know this guy. Is he in the organization?

And yes I follow him on twitter, was joking I know he isn't 10, looks like he's in his 20-30s

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[quote=Evilgrin;973427]One question, what was worse in the game, Marv Albert or defense?[/quote]

Yeah Marv is bad. I'm surprised they had such a scrub booth on this game. Rich Gannon is a mush mouth and Albert seems to be going senile.

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[quote=SmootSmack;973422]That is confirmed[/quote]

Huge sigh of relief.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;973430]Well said.

Just to add... football is a rough game. RG3's style of play is going to lend himself to taking some hits now and then. Shit happens.[/QUOTE]

The only bad decision was going back in; should have called it a day after the injury

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Yay!!!!

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[quote=CultBrennan59;973431]You and Smoot seem to know this guy. Is he in the organization?

And yes I follow him on twitter, was joking I know he isn't 10, looks like he's in his 20-30s[/quote]

Not in the org but he has legit sources much like SS

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[quote=rbanerjee23;973429]Good point -- still, given that hindsight is 20/20, on that one play, RG3 made a really bad decision not sliding and taking a ferocious hit from two much larger men. Can we agree on that?[/quote]

I agree a bad decision, but it is easy to look back at it and say he should have slid but their of plenty of players that regret this play or another play that cost them their career. You think Bo Jackson wished we would have just ran out of bounds? Or do you Jamal Lewis (who can't remember anything anymore) wished we would have quit earlier in order to still have his mental health? So we can wish that he did something but hindsight is 20/20 and we can only hope he is healthy and learned.

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[quote=donofriose;973437]I agree a bad decision, but it is easy to look back at it and say he should have slid but their of plenty of players that regret this play or another play that cost them their career. You think Bo Jackson wished we would have just ran out of bounds? Or do you Jamal Lewis (who can't remember anything anymore) wished we would have quit earlier in order to still have his mental health? So we can wish that he did something but hindsight is 20/20 and we can only hope he is healthy and learned.[/quote]

Jamal Lewis doesn't even know he's Jamal Lewis

Its what comes with the QB. Wilson, Luck, Weeden, all those guys will suffer injuries that put them out atleast a game in their career.

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@RGIII Your positive vibes and prayers worked people!!!! To God be the Glory!

straight from the horses mouth

LL @HTTR24_7 is definitely on my follow list now.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;973384]Honestly we've seen much worse.

His leg wasn't even planted.

Could just be a hyperextension.[/QUOTE]

If it is a hyper extension what is the chance he will play next week?
Edit: i guess there are varying degrees of the injury but do players usually muss time?

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LL is extremely smart about football.

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[quote=punch it in;973445]If it is a hyper extension what is the chance he will play next week?
Edit: i guess there are varying degrees of the injury but do players usually muss time?[/quote]

My uneducated guess is he'll be questionable for next week but will play.

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MRI negative. Relief. Still would be suprised to see him face Cleveland or maybe Philadelphia

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Yeah, I still think he sits out, barring a miraculous recovery.

I think we can beat Cleveland with Cousins