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[quote=RedskinRat;1026620]Define 'better'. We already have shit in place, it's not enforced, more regulations will make no positive difference.[/quote]Bet you're already aware, giantone can't do definitions well. Especially in this case where :

[URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/us/shooting-reported-at-washington-navy-yard.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0"]Navy officials said Mr. Alexis was given a general discharge in 2011 after exhibiting a “pattern of misbehavior,” which officials declined to detail. The year before, Mr. Alexis was arrested in Fort Worth for discharging a firearm after an upstairs neighbor said he had confronted her in the parking lot about making too much noise, according to a Fort Worth police report.

The police in Seattle, where Mr. Alexis once lived, said Monday that they had arrested him in 2004 for shooting the tires of another man’s vehicle in what Mr. Alexis later described to detectives as an anger-fueled “blackout.” [/URL]

In this case, the closest definition to what "better" should be is "enforced". One would think there would already be plenty of background checks for a civilian contractor for the Navy anyways, but obviously there was a breakdown there...... But I'm sure giantone meant "more restrictions on everybody else even though it wouldn't have prevented this shooting (never fail to exploit a tragedy)".

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[quote=RedskinRat;1026620]Define 'better'. We already have shit in place, it's not enforced, more regulations will make no positive difference.[/quote]"like at Gun shows were there are none "

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[quote=HailGreen28;1026642]
One would think there would already be plenty of background checks for a civilian contractor for the Navy anyways, but obviously there was a breakdown there.[/quote]

I didn't realize that when they do that kind of "background check"(employment) they see if you own a gun or guns ,wow, you are smart .

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[quote=HailGreen28;1026642]Bet you're already aware, giantone can't do definitions well. Especially in this case where :

[URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/us/shooting-reported-at-washington-navy-yard.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0"]Navy officials said Mr. Alexis was given a general discharge in 2011 after exhibiting a “pattern of misbehavior,” which officials declined to detail. The year before, Mr. Alexis was arrested in Fort Worth for discharging a firearm after an upstairs neighbor said he had confronted her in the parking lot about making too much noise, according to a Fort Worth police report.

The police in Seattle, where Mr. Alexis once lived, said Monday that they had arrested him in 2004 for shooting the tires of another man’s vehicle in what Mr. Alexis later described to detectives as an anger-fueled “blackout.” [/URL]

In this case, the closest definition to what "better" should be is "enforced". One would think there would already be plenty of background checks for a civilian contractor for the Navy anyways, but obviously there was a breakdown there...... But I'm sure giantone meant "more restrictions on everybody else even though it wouldn't have prevented this shooting (never fail to exploit a tragedy)".[/quote]

How can a guy legally buy a gun who's been convicted of discharging a gun in an anger-fueled blackout? Hello, whats wrong with this picture?

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[quote=Giantone;1026650]I didn't realize that when they do that kind of "background check"(employment) they see if you own a gun or guns ,wow, you are smart .[/quote]Another logical fail on your part, giantone. Seeing how he passed the background checks to work there, what makes you think the gun background check similarly enforced would have stopped him?

Why don't we work on not clearing / disarming people proven to be demonstrably crazy, before trying to disarm everybody else?

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[quote=Chico23231;1026653]How can a guy legally buy a gun who's been convicted of discharging a gun in an anger-fueled blackout? Hello, whats wrong with this picture?[/quote]Sadly, who says he bought it legally? Or had them prior to the aforementioned incidents and was allowed to keep them?

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[quote=Chico23231;1026653]How can a guy legally buy a gun who's been [B]convicted[/B] of discharging a gun in an anger-fueled blackout? Hello, whats wrong with this picture?[/quote]


I don't think he was ever convicted. Just charged.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1026671]Sadly, who says he bought it legally? Or had them prior to the aforementioned incidents and was allowed to keep them?[/quote]

he bought the gun legally in Va

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He was arrested twice for firing a gun. Once shooting out a persons tire and the second for firing a gun of into the apartment above him. Both time the charges were dropped if he had been convicted he could not have legally purchased another gun.

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[quote=Giantone;1026649]"like at Gun shows were there are none "[/quote]

You do know that back ground checks are done at gun shows.

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[quote=firstdown;1026690]You do know that back ground checks are done at gun shows.[/quote]


In what state ? Not at the Gun show at the Arena in Upper Marlboro(MD) they didn't .

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[quote=Giantone;1026725]In what state ? Not at the Gun show at the Arena in Upper Marlboro(MD) they didn't .[/quote]

All licensed fire arm dealers have to run back ground checks as required by FEDERAL law. If your going to argue gun control at least know the basics.

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[quote=firstdown;1026746]All licensed fire arm dealers have to run back ground checks as required by FEDERAL law. If your going to argue gun control at least know the basics.[/quote]


So in your mind only gun dealers sell guns at gun shows ,lol, ok , speaking of knowing the basics .

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[quote=Giantone;1026776]So in your mind only gun dealers sell guns at gun shows ,lol, ok , speaking of knowing the basics .[/quote]

Never said that. You said back ground checks are not done at MD gun shows not me. I was just refuting that statement which was incorrect.

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[quote=firstdown;1026806]Never said that. You said back ground checks are not done at MD gun shows not me. I was just refuting that statement which was incorrect.[/quote]


I believe his exact words were:

[quote]
"like at Gun shows were there are none "
[/quote]

He even put quotes around his comment for some reason. I don't know why you guys try and use reason and logic with him or even attempt to debate or argue with him at all. The dudes an idiot.

[QUOTE=mlmpetert;1026841]I believe his exact words were:



He even put quotes around his comment for some reason. I don't know why you guys try and use reason and logic with him or even attempt to debate or argue with him at all. The dudes an idiot.[/QUOTE]

GiantOne is the official court jester of WP.

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[quote=mlmpetert;1026673]I don't think he was ever convicted. Just charged.[/quote]



I'm sure that makes everyone feel better .

Re: Five-year-old boy accidentally shoots, kills sister
 

[quote=firstdown;1026806]Never said that. You said back ground checks are not done at MD gun shows not me. I was just refuting that statement which was incorrect.[/quote]



I will agree to disagree with you .