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[url]http://www.thestarpress.com/article/20130707/SPORTS/307070039/Ryan-Kerrigan-Washington-Redskins-Logan-Paulsen?gcheck=1[/url]

This type of attitude it why I love what we have become as a football team and why I believe we are here to say as perennial contenders in the NFC.

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[quote=Chico23231;1014544]good post. DefenseW, [B]what do you see within our own defense we need to fix to be more effective? [/B]When I think about it, I dont know where to begin. I think consistency in every department: tackling, pass rush, man coverage, over the top coverage, gap discipline, etc. One thing we cant complain about is turnovers...we seem to get them.[/quote]

Getting Orakpo and Carricker back and giving time for Jarvis Jenkins to fully recover from major knee surgery is really going to increase our pass rush and sack numbers. Our secondary will benefit greatly.

But the single #1 biggest need for improvement from last seasons defense is solidifying both safety positions. Getting the Safety positions filled with NFL caliber athletes will go a long way to solidifying our defense. The additions of Tanard Jackson, B. Rambo, Phillip Thomas and a healthy B. Meriweather is huge.
Safety is such an important position on defense and last year we were severely understaffed. This new group, if they can get healthy and/or return from suspension will give a bump to the whole defensive unit almost as comparable as the addition of RGIII to the offense last year.
You are only as good as your weakest link in the chain and that is particularly true for NFL defenses. You can not hide a sub-par shitty player on defense. Good offenses will go after them. You fix the safety positions and we no longer have a glaring weakness on defense.
For the first time since the 1991 Sb season I might be able to say we are close to solidfiying our defense.
HTTR! It took a long time to finally fix it. I am just glad we are close, and it looks like we have depth! Thank you ShanAllen.

I forgot which expert said it but earlier today on ESPN they were saying the skins defense will be vastly improved and it's a reason why we will repeat in the east. I agree

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Pat White willing to change positions to make the team.

Still won't make the team.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Pat-White-Ill-Do-Anything-To-Help-The-Team/1f7ddd9a-aef3-4391-82a8-089096302342]Pat White: 'I'll Do Anything To Help The Team'[/url]

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[quote=Defensewins;1014606]Getting Orakpo and Carricker back and giving time for Jarvis Jenkins to fully recover from major knee surgery is really going to increase our pass rush and sack numbers. Our secondary will benefit greatly.

But the single #1 biggest need for improvement from last seasons defense is solidifying both safety positions. Getting the Safety positions filled with NFL caliber athletes will go a long way to solidifying our defense. The additions of Tanard Jackson, B. Rambo, Phillip Thomas and a healthy B. Meriweather is huge.
Safety is such an important position on defense and last year we were severely understaffed. This new group, if they can get healthy and/or return from suspension will give a bump to the whole defensive unit almost as comparable as the addition of RGIII to the offense last year.
You are only as good as your weakest link in the chain and that is particularly true for NFL defenses. You can not hide a sub-par shitty player on defense. Good offenses will go after them. You fix the safety positions and we no longer have a glaring weakness on defense.
For the first time since the 1991 Sb season I might be able to say we are close to solidfiying our defense.
HTTR! It took a long time to finally fix it. I am just glad we are close, and it looks like we have depth! Thank you ShanAllen.[/quote]

Agree. I think T Jax could be the best player in the secondary if he got his mind right.

Orakpo is gonna have a huge year if he can stay healthy.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1014633]Pat White willing to change positions to make the team.

Still won't make the team.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Pat-White-Ill-Do-Anything-To-Help-The-Team/1f7ddd9a-aef3-4391-82a8-089096302342]Pat White: 'I'll Do Anything To Help The Team'[/url][/quote]

Back to not reading previous posts I see

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[quote=Chico23231;1014638]Agree. I think T Jax could be the best player in the secondary if he got his mind right.

Orakpo is gonna have a huge year if he can stay healthy.[/quote]

Counting on getting anything, even a roster spot, from T. Jax is risky bordering on foolish..

1. There's no set date for his return. Aug 31st is the first day he is ELIGIBLE to be reinstated, but there is no guarantee it will happen..

2. Even IF he is reinstated, the team would have to be willing to take him back.

3. Even IF the team takes him back, he would have gone 12 months without any football activity.

4. Even IF he resumes football activity, he would have to re-learn the defense that he had no OTA's or training camp with.

5. Even IF he re-learns the defense, he would then have to beat out players that have been in the program since April and that may not go over well in the locker room.

6. Even IF he wins a spot and the locker room is ok with him, he's one bad decision away from being gone all over again.

I don't see Allen/Shanahan/Haslett taking that chance on what could be a team poised for a deep playoff run.

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[quote=Paintrain;1014645]Counting on getting anything, even a roster spot, from T. Jax is risky bordering on foolish..

1. There's no set date for his return. Aug 31st is the first day he is ELIGIBLE to be reinstated, but there is no guarantee it will happen..

2. Even IF he is reinstated, the team would have to be willing to take him back.

3. Even IF the team takes him back, he would have gone 12 months without any football activity.

4. Even IF he resumes football activity, he would have to re-learn the defense that he had no OTA's or training camp with.

5. Even IF he re-learns the defense, he would then have to beat out players that have been in the program since April and that may not go over well in the locker room.

6. Even IF he wins a spot and the locker room is ok with him, he's one bad decision away from being gone all over again.

I don't see Allen/Shanahan/Haslett taking that chance on what could be a team poised for a deep playoff run.[/quote]

Haz just recently said they will welcome him back with open arms.

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[quote=Paintrain;1014645]
I don't see Allen/Shanahan/Haslett taking that chance on what could be a team poised for a deep playoff run.[/quote]

Totally agree. Rebuild with [U][B]good[/B][/U] character players.

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[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/jackson-will-be-welcomed-open-arms]Jackson will be welcomed 'with open arms' | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

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[quote=Paintrain;1014645]Counting on getting anything, even a roster spot, from T. Jax is risky bordering on foolish..

1. There's no set date for his return. Aug 31st is the first day he is ELIGIBLE to be reinstated, but there is no guarantee it will happen..

2. Even IF he is reinstated, the team would have to be willing to take him back.

3. Even IF the team takes him back, he would have gone 12 months without any football activity.

4. Even IF he resumes football activity, he would have to re-learn the defense that he had no OTA's or training camp with.

5. Even IF he re-learns the defense, he would then have to beat out players that have been in the program since April and that may not go over well in the locker room.

6. Even IF he wins a spot and the locker room is ok with him, he's one bad decision away from being gone all over again.

I don't see Allen/Shanahan/Haslett taking that chance on what could be a team poised for a deep playoff run.[/quote]

All very true no doubt. But the cap penalty squeezed us with other options and he certainly isnt my first preference. I think he'd work out fine this year if he keeps in shape and keeps his mind focused on football. I dont see it as a huge risk. And plus what Matty said.

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[quote=Mattyk;1014653][url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/jackson-will-be-welcomed-open-arms]Jackson will be welcomed 'with open arms' | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url][/quote]

Missed that.. Hey, if he can contribute, all the better.

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[url=http://pro32.ap.org/article/former-nfl-player-sues-redskins-over-knee-injury]Former NFL player sues Redskins over knee injury | Pro32: Head to Head[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;1014706][url=http://pro32.ap.org/article/former-nfl-player-sues-redskins-over-knee-injury]Former NFL player sues Redskins over knee injury | Pro32: Head to Head[/url][/quote]


Good luck proving that lawsuit.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1014706][url=http://pro32.ap.org/article/former-nfl-player-sues-redskins-over-knee-injury]Former NFL player sues Redskins over knee injury | Pro32: Head to Head[/url][/quote]

He's not concerned over the inconsistency that Royal was an offensive player and GWilliams, even if there were a bounty program, coached the defense?

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The guy claims played some on the defense, which I would assume he means special teams. I don't remember royal ever playing in the actual defense.

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[quote=Lotus;1014712]He's not concerned over the inconsistency that Royal was an offensive player and GWilliams, even if there were a bounty program, coached the defense?[/quote]

First of all...who?

Secondly, he was hurt against the Vikings and played against us before recovered fully it seems. Also, we didn't end his career since he played in another game AFTER the game against us and then had ACL surgery. No case.


[quote]
Green was playing for the Giants when he first injured the knee Oct. 31, 2004 in a game against the Minnesota Vikings. He missed nearly a month then returned to play in three more games, including Dec. 5 against the Redskins. The lawsuit says Royal "intentionally lowered his helmet and dove into" Green's knees "at full speed." Green had to be helped off the field, and the lawsuit claims the alleged bounty program would have rewarded the hit as "either a 'knockout' or a 'cart off.'"

Even though Royal lined up as a tight end on the play, which happened in the third quarter, the lawsuit says he also played defense occasionally and therefore would have been coached by Williams.

Green played in one more game after the injury and later underwent surgery to repair a torn ACL. Green did play in one game with the Giants in 2005 but was cut at the end of the season. He tried to latch on with the Houston Texans in 2006 but was cut before the start of the regular season. He now lives in Miami.[/quote]

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Look at Royal's defensive stats...0 tackles in 2004. In fact, he didn't record a tackle until 2008 with the Bills and that could have been after a change of possession on a fumble or INT.


[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoyaRo00.htm]Robert Royal NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

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[quote=Monkeydad;1014780]Look at Royal's defensive stats...0 tackles in 2004. In fact, he didn't record a tackle until 2008 with the Bills and that could have been after a change of possession on a fumble or INT.


[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoyaRo00.htm]Robert Royal NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url][/quote]

There was a play in that game where the Redskins were flagged 15 yards after a Portis run because of an illegal crack back by Royal. I'm guessing that's the play being referred to

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[quote=SmootSmack;1014784]There was a play in that game where the Redskins were flagged 15 yards after a Portis run because of an illegal crack back by Royal. I'm guessing that's the play being referred to[/quote]

So he's claiming Gregg Williams called that play, or slipped Royal a twenty as he went onto the field?

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[quote=Monkeydad;1014787]So he's claiming Gregg Williams called that play, or slipped Royal a twenty as he went onto the field?[/quote]

I guess he saying Williams encouraged it across the whole team or something like that. Who knows

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For what it's worth, skip has us winning the east

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1014848]For what it's worth, skip has us winning the east[/quote]

Well I guess the Redskins aren't winning the NFC East then. He also said RG3 is better than Eli Manning, that might be a tad premature in this point in their careers. But I think in four years, this question will be very interesting to answer.

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[quote=donofriose;1014853]Well I guess the Redskins aren't winning the NFC East then. He also said RG3 is better than Eli Manning, that might be a tad premature in this point in their careers. But I think in four years, this question will be very interesting to answer.[/quote]

I've noticed Skip has been more positive towards the Redskins in recent years. I remember him praising Brian Orakpo a year or two ago and I remember him hyping up RG3 constantly. When RG3 went to New Orleans week one Skip Bayless gave RG3 an 10 out of 10 in terms of how great he played.


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The rest of skips opinions are scattered though.

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I don't rate Skip who is he what has he done.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1014848]For what it's worth, skip has us winning the east[/quote]

Given Skip's track record, that means we are going 2-14.

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Pretty sure he picked them last year as well (and in 2007)

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[quote=SmootSmack;1014863]Pretty sure he picked them last year as well (and in 2007)[/quote]

I think he picked the Cowboys last year but then jumped on the RG3 bandwagon.

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[quote=donofriose;1014867]I think he picked the Cowboys last year but then jumped on the RG3 bandwagon.[/quote]

Like him or hate him, he was one of the first talking heads telling people to pay attention to RG3 at Baylor. He was saying he would take RG3 over Luck prior to the draft. Im not much for Skip Bayless, but give credit where credit is due. He has been on the RG3 bandwagon since prior to him arriving in the NFL.

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@Brad_Gagnon: ICYMI: Why and how Mike Shanahan keeps finding running back success everywhere he looks: [url=http://t.co/oaDmlAjcrV]How Does Mike Shanahan Always Churn Out RB Success? | Bleacher Report[/url] #NFL #Redskins

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1015132]@Brad_Gagnon: ICYMI: Why and how Mike Shanahan keeps finding running back success everywhere he looks: [url=http://t.co/oaDmlAjcrV]How Does Mike Shanahan Always Churn Out RB Success? | Bleacher Report[/url] #NFL #Redskins[/quote]

Nice read. Really explains it well. With the the success the Redskins and several more teams are having with the zone-blocking scheme, you have to wonder if other teams will try to make the switch and perhaps make it harder for us to find good lineman and running back fits.

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This article is a few days old already, so I'm sure you've all read it. For some reason, I'm beginning to really like Pat White(except for the lawsuit thing), and I hope he makes the roster. If he doesn't, I won't be sad, but I think he deserves a shot. He can take Banks' roster spot. I know, I know, it' unlikely.

[url=http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2013/07/need-to-know-did-white-help-his-chances.html]Need to Know: Is there a role for Pat White? - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

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One thing about Mike Shanahan is he never drafts a running back that high. I think the highest were Clinton Portis and Tatum Bell both of he drafted in the 2nd round. But in that zone blocking system Mike Shanahan knows which unheralded running back to inject in his system.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000216957/article/pierre-garcon-is-key-to-washington-redskins-offense]Pierre Garcon is key to Washington Redskins' offense - NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;1015176][URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000216957/article/pierre-garcon-is-key-to-washington-redskins-offense"]Pierre Garcon is key to Washington Redskins' offense - NFL.com[/URL][/quote]

So very true. He needs to stay up right this year. I think he was pretty banged up in the SEA playoff game as well.

A healthy RG and PG = a lethal offense in WAS.

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The big bodied CBs for Seattle had most of our guys flustered that day, and yes Pierre was one by the end of the second quarter if I remember correctly.

Hopefully at least 2 of the 3 guys we drafted this year can turn into that opposing force in the backfield for us.

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The Redskins annouced their training camp practices and for those of you with more knowledge of this than me, please answer this question. What's the difference between a "Walkthrough" and a "Practice"?

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[quote=scowan;1015193]The Redskins annouced their training camp practices and for those of you with more knowledge of this than me, please answer this question. What's the difference between a "Walkthrough" and a "Practice"?[/quote]

A walkthrough typically means no pads and no contact. They just wear helmets and walk or lightly jog through the motions of the plays.

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So its a choreographed verison of the classroom I guess. Learn a few plays then go out on the field and figure out exactly where this route makes its cuts what the timing is on this route. Probably benefits WR/TE more than anyone I guess. Not linemen so much.

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[quote=scowan;1015196]So its a choreographed verison of the classroom I guess. Learn a few plays then go out on the field and figure out exactly where this route makes its cuts what the timing is on this route. Probably benefits WR/TE more than anyone I guess. Not linemen so much.[/quote]

I don't know about DL, but with a zone blocking scheme I would think the walkthru's would be helpful in establishing zone boundaries and responsibilities. I don't know that, just kinda thinking it.