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who's saying we should keep rex? i don't know why people keep repeating that like it's an argument or debate...

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[quote=mbedner3420;1018289]Can someone post some general reactions to the game? I missed the game (I'm out in Kansas City for the weekend), so I'm ridiculously put of the loop right now...[/quote]

I thought the offense looked good especially the first team offense. Cousins looked good. Defense still needs a lot of work it seems. The rookie safeties looked like rookies safeties, neither did anything to really make you confident in them. The corners made a couple of nice plays. There weren't that many starters and it was the preseason so there really wasn't much to go on. The defense was dissapointing though, at least the "first" team D.

Yeah defense didn't look very good but they also didn't show much either. Rambo got his ankles broke by CJ. Dude still has it

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Why is everyone talking about Rambo being beat one on one in wide open space and not how Orakpo completely messed up?

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[quote=kct1975;1018253]I could not agree more!


Please release Rex! :D[/quote]

Rex is more valuable then Pat White think of him as a Asst. QB coach. If he ever sees the field due to injuries to KC and RG then well our season is shot.

Pat White won't beat out Rex for that reason above.

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[quote=mredskins;1018295]Rex is more valuable then Pat White think of him as a Asst. QB coach. If he ever sees the field due to injuries to KC and RG then well our season is shot.

Pat White won't beat out Rex for that reason above.[/quote]

If we wont win a game with Rex, there really is no reason to keep him. If he is the acting Asst. QB coach, then just make him an Asst. QB coach and save the roster spot for someone who can contribute.

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[quote=Bushead;1018294]Why is everyone talking about Rambo being beat one on one in wide open space and not how Orakpo completely messed up?[/quote]

Thomas got washed up. Orakpo went up field and was too wide, Rambo took a bad angle and missed an open field tackle. All three of those things on one play=58 yard touchdown

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[quote=mbedner3420;1018289]Can someone post some general reactions to the game? I missed the game (I'm out in Kansas City for the weekend), so I'm ridiculously put of the loop right now...[/quote]

The Good: Cousins played awesome which I think is crucial to come out and play well for confidence, Helu looked good, Morgan and Hankerson played great, and first team Oline looked dominant. On defensive I thought our young corners played well: Amerson, Minnefield and Crawford all had pretty strong games. Another rookie was Brandon Jenkins on the rush that helped collaspe the line on Kerrigan's sack...I tell ya quiet play, big time potential.

The Bad: First, Im worried about our Oline depth...McRib, Pashos werent good at all. Compton was meh. Big plays giving up on defense, not cool, but im not worried. Special teams coverage was really bad, but just first game need to improve.

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[quote=mredskins;1018295]Rex is more valuable then Pat White think of him as a Asst. QB coach. If he ever sees the field due to injuries to KC and RG then well our season is shot.

Pat White won't beat out Rex for that reason above.[/quote]Agree, if White has to start...we're done.

However, I'd keep him as the 3rd QB for the value he brings in practice preparing for Vick twice a year and other mobile QBs. Romo (to an extent), Rodgers (of course won't come close to AR's arm/accuracy), Kap at SF. If we make the playoffs, we'll likely run into SEA along the way.

If Rex is truly valuable as a Coach, make him one.

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[quote=Chico23231;1018298]The Good: Cousins played awesome which I think is crucial to come out and play well for confidence, Helu looked good, Morgan and Hankerson played great, and first team Oline looked dominant. On defensive I thought our young corners played well: Amerson, Minnefield and Crawford all had pretty strong games. Another rookie was Brandon Jenkins on the rush that helped collaspe the line on Kerrigan's sack...I tell ya quiet play, big time potential.

The Bad: First, Im worried about our Oline depth...McRib, Pashos werent good at all. Compton was meh. Big plays giving up on defense, not cool, but im not worried. Special teams coverage was really bad, but just first game need to improve.[/quote]very good summary! S is a big concern, I agree our young corners should be OK.

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Pat White is not making this team over Rex Grossman

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[quote=FRPLG;1018286]And PW has zero chance of making the team. He is tremendously scheme-limited. We didn't run much of the base offense with him at all. While true that he made some really good athletic plays he did it against scrubadubs. It was fun to watch but won't work once the big kids take the field.[/quote]

exactly

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Rookie standouts - B Jenkins and Amerson .
Helu is going to be a big part of the offense.
And last but not least ... White will b cut.

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[quote=Chico23231;1018298]The Good: Cousins played awesome which I think is crucial to come out and play well for confidence, Helu looked good, Morgan and Hankerson played great, and first team Oline looked dominant. On defensive I thought our young corners played well: Amerson, Minnefield and Crawford all had pretty strong games. Another rookie was Brandon Jenkins on the rush that helped collaspe the line on Kerrigan's sack...I tell ya quiet play, big time potential.

The Bad: First, Im worried about our Oline depth...McRib, Pashos werent good at all. Compton was meh. Big plays giving up on defense, not cool, but im not worried. Special teams coverage was really bad, but just first game need to improve.[/quote]

Great summation, thanks!

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/53763/redskins-22-titans-21-ten-observations]Redskins 22, Titans 21: Ten Observations - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;1018299]Agree, if White has to start...we're done.

However, I'd keep him as the 3rd QB for the value he brings in practice preparing for Vick twice a year and other mobile QBs. Romo (to an extent), Rodgers (of course won't come close to AR's arm/accuracy), Kap at SF. If we make the playoffs, we'll likely run into SEA along the way.

[B]If Rex is truly valuable as a Coach, make him one.[/B][/quote]

I think that would takes some of his power away. he is more a mentor then a boss. I have had mentors at work that are not my boss.

As a player he is one of the guys someone to look up too as a coach he just be another boss someone you had to prove yourself too.

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Any word on how badly Jeremy Kimbrough was injured?

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Didn't get a huge look at ST like I wanted since we have a new coach. The little we did see was 'ehhh'. Dawson was bad. Sav was mediocre. I'd have loved to see us give Kai a shot at that 56 yarder in the first half versus punting but he's more proven and seeing the punt coverage teams was probably more important. Punt/kick coverage was not good.

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Was anyone else as irritated as I was over Hankerson not fighting for that first down on the first drive? (I believe the first drive) He was hit about half a yard short and went straight down. Linebackers or not, they didn't drive him backwards, they didn't have that chance, he definitely didn't fight at all. Mike Shanahan didn't look too happy either, it looked like he said something to him when he came off the field. It looked like he was protecting himself from the hit.

Maybe he didn't want to be injured in a preseason game, but if he did that during the season, I would have been irate. As it stood, I was more like wtf was that?

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[quote=Mattyk;1018321][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/53763/redskins-22-titans-21-ten-observations]Redskins 22, Titans 21: Ten Observations - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

So on that Kerrigan sack, Kerrigan had all both hands on the ground on the inside and Jenkins was over the top the D line or on the outside? Was the alignment four across or 3 across down on the D line? I guess on the other side Orakpo was standing next to Bowen.

Just trying to figure that out, because thats kinda a new look

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I will say this much I was more impressed with Skins then the Titans. They probably trade Locker for Cousins.

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Didn't get to see the game, but Jason Reid's write up says Rambo had a horrible game. Not surprised because it seems rookie DBs have a hard learning curve.

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[quote=jdlea;1018331]Was anyone else as irritated as I was over Hankerson not fighting for that first down on the first drive? (I believe the first drive) He was hit about half a yard short and went straight down. Linebackers or not, they didn't drive him backwards, they didn't have that chance, he definitely didn't fight at all. Mike Shanahan didn't look too happy either, it looked like he said something to him when he came off the field. It looked like he was protecting himself from the hit.

Maybe he didn't want to be injured in a preseason game, but if he did that during the season, I would have been irate. As it stood, I was more like wtf was that?[/quote]
Yeah well his later effort on the TD was good though

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[quote=NC_Skins;1018334]Didn't get to see the game, but Jason Reid's write up says Rambo had a horrible game. Not surprised because it seems rookie DBs have a hard learning curve.[/quote]

Not my impression at all. He definitely made some errors but all of them seemed pretty correctable. Bad angles, imprecise run fits. Overall he looked as comfortable and natural as anyone to me. I was content with it. He looked like a rookie who'll be able to help. Amerson looked good.

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[quote=mredskins;1018333]They probably trade Locker for Cousins.[/quote]

Cousins is legit.

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[quote=FRPLG;1018335]Yeah well his later effort on the TD was good though[/quote]

That it was, that was a heck of a play. I honestly hated the play call, but he turned it into a great play. Really effort nice going for the end zone; still doesn't mean I'm giving him a pass on not moving the chains.

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preseason Pat White = preseason Colt Brennan

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I still can't believe people haven't talked about this last night.

We'll call this celebration "cousin-ing"

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[quote=jdlea;1018338]That it was, that was a heck of a play. I honestly hated the play call, but he turned it into a great play. Really effort nice going for the end zone; still doesn't mean I'm giving him a pass on not moving the chains.[/quote]

Yeah I kinda had a problem with it because Cousins put the ball perfect where he shoulda cut and been in stride with momentum to pick up the first down. He caught the ball perfectly but he then looks and kinda slows his feet down. He needs to have better instints by now and needs to make that play. Moss and Garcon get that first down.

Hankerson on the touchdown play is much more aggressive, he catches the ball and quickly accelerated towards the endzone, running people over and inviting the contact. It was a nice rebound from the first down play.

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[quote=jdlea;1018331]Was anyone else as irritated as I was over Hankerson not fighting for that first down on the first drive? (I believe the first drive) He was hit about half a yard short and went straight down. Linebackers or not, they didn't drive him backwards, they didn't have that chance, he definitely didn't fight at all. Mike Shanahan didn't look too happy either, it looked like he said something to him when he came off the field. It looked like he was protecting himself from the hit.

Maybe he didn't want to be injured in a preseason game, but if he did that during the season, I would have been irate. As it stood, I was more like wtf was that?[/quote]

1) I thought Hankerson, in general had a good, solid game with a couple of nice grabs and a solid run on the screen for the TD. Set up and used his blockers well to max out the yards. Effort was not a problem for Hank last night - can he do it every play, every game is the question.

2) On the particular play, I just didn't see it that way. He caught the ball on a slant, changed momentum to turn it more upfield and was hit by two defenders - one of whom had an angle on him. From what I recall, he ran into the contact and did not shy away from it at all.You saw him "going straight down", I saw him lower his shoulder in anticipation of contact with two tacklers. Between the basic physics of his motion/inertia and bringing 200 lbs (at least) less to the collision than his tacklers, not sure you could expect anything different.

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These are some of my impressions of some Redskins players during the game. They are more feelings based on players flashing talent versus analysis based on observations.

- I was absolutely amazed by Fred Davis! He looked better than ever, as if he was never injured. I think he could have a monster season.

- Kirk Cousins looks like a 10-Year NFL QB. He is a real gamer. I don't worry about a thing when he is in the game.

- I think we have at least two rookies who will contribute this season and eventually become very good NFL players. They are David Amerson and Brandon Jenkins.

- Brian Orakpo is a pass rushing beast! He has a great motor but he is a bit over-eager at this point and the Titans took advantage of that to abuse him in the run game. I think he'll settle down and play the run better.

- Aldrick Robinson has great quickness as well as great speed and he is playing with passion. He will contribute more this season.

- Leonard Hankerson has so much talent that I'm hoping he can find the same type of passion for the game that Orakpo and Robinson have. If he does, he'll be unstoppable.

- Roy Helu, Jr. looked like the complement to Alfred Morris that we need. He had a very solid game and he deserves a lot of credit for the way he has come back from injury.

- Richard Crawford played like a man possessed. He looks like a man who won't be denied his spot on the 53-man roster.

- I thought Baccari Rambo did alright for his first time out. I'm looking forward to seeing how he develops as the preseason continues.

- I'd like to see more of Xavier Nixon. He's huge and athletic and he looks like an NFL talent to me. I hope we can hold onto him on the Practice Squad.

Overall, I think this was an encouraging first preseason game.

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[quote=Chico23231;1018343]Yeah I kinda had a problem with it because Cousins put the ball perfect where he shoulda cut and been in stride with momentum to pick up the first down. He caught the ball perfectly but he then looks and kinda slows his feet down. He needs to have better instints by now and needs to make that play. Moss and Garcon get that first down.

Hankerson on the touchdown play is much more aggressive, he catches the ball and quickly accelerated towards the endzone, running people over and inviting the contact. It was a nice rebound from the first down play.[/quote]

I'll have to see the play again. What I recall is that his momentum at the time of the catch was [I]across[/I] the field, not up the field, and that he had a good 5 yards to make after the catch. Given the angles, I just am not sure Garcon or Moss make that either.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1018344]1) I thought Hankerson, in general had a good, solid game with a couple of nice grabs and a solid run on the screen for the TD. Set up and used his blockers well to max out the yards. Effort was not a problem for Hank last night - can he do it every play, every game is the question.

2) On the particular play, I just didn't see it that way. He caught the ball on a slant, changed momentum to turn it more upfield and was hit by two defenders - one of whom had an angle on him. From what I recall, he ran into the contact and did not shy away from it at all.You saw him "going straight down", I saw him lower his shoulder in anticipation of contact with two tacklers. Between the basic physics of his motion/inertia and bringing 200 lbs (at least) less to the collision than his tacklers, not sure you could expect anything different.[/quote]

I think, in general, he played well, too. That play just rubbed me the wrong way.

I see what you're saying, but I felt more like he had turned it upfield and his legs sort of went dead on contact, that's why I said "he went straight down." I incorrectly characterized it as him shying away, when I should have said "didn't really fight for it." That's how I saw the play. I'd like to see it again, honestly

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[quote=jdlea;1018347]I think, in general, he played well, too. That play just rubbed me the wrong way.

I see what you're saying, but I felt more like he had turned it upfield and his legs sort of went dead on contact, that's why I said "he went straight down." I incorrectly characterized it as him shying away, when I should have said "didn't really fight for it." That's how I saw the play. I'd like to see it again, honestly[/quote]

I agree with you he seemed to shy away from the play. MS saw it that way too because he gave him a tongue lashing.

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I think the young CB's - Crawford, Minnifield and Amerson - played well. It will be difficult to cut any of them. Not sure how many we keep but, if they continue to play that well, I see all three on the final roster. If we keep 5 CB's, I think Hall makes it and Wilson and Biggers are fighting for the final spot.

How many CB's did we keep out of camp last year?

The CB position this year kinda reminds me of the WR debate last year. From a position of weakness (i.e. Moss, A. Anderson and Gaffney), to a solid position that flashes strength (Garcon, Morgan, Moss, etc.). I would not be surprised if the last CB we cut is snapped up by [I]someone[/I].

BTW - Thought Morgan had a good night also. All this talk about Hank and Robinson, remember, Morgan is the No.2 and last night he showed why. Seriously, this group of WR's is light years beyond what we had in 2011. Light years.

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[quote=mredskins;1018348]I agree with you he seemed to shy away from the play. [B]MS saw it that way too because he gave him a tongue lashing.[/B][/quote]

Didn't see that part. If true, maybe why he went into beast mode later.

Like I said, I would like to see the play again [I]and[/I] Shanny's reaction. I really am going from memory about a play that clearly did not stand out to me in the way it did to you. I may have just missed it.

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Any update on the Thomas injury?

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[quote=Bushead;1018294]Why is everyone talking about Rambo being beat one on one in wide open space and not how Orakpo completely messed up?[/quote]

and lets not forget that this was the rookies first live game action, so the first time the really seen live game speed . . . they should all start taking better angles once they get used to the speed of the game . . . veterans too as while they have been there before, they haven't tackled at all until last night . . .

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I thought the rookies played as expected, especially for the first preseason game which is nothing more than a glorified scrimmage... No game planning involved, basic schemes, etc. It's a learning experience and something to build on.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1018351]Any update on the Thomas injury?[/quote]

[url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/8/9/4605530/phillip-thomas-injury-foot-sprain-redskins]Phillip Thomas injury: Redskins rookie dealing with foot sprain - SBNation.com[/url]