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[quote=Lotus;1034721]Meriweather suspended for 2 games.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000267387/article/brandon-meriweather-banned-2-games-for-illegal-hits]Brandon Meriweather banned 2 games for illegal hits - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

I gotta figure he will appeal, if nothing else it will delay the banishment a little while. I'd rather lose him against teams that don't have Peyton/Rivers.

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[quote=mooby;1034725]I gotta figure he will appeal, if nothing else it will delay the banishment a little while. I'd rather lose him against teams that don't have Peyton/Rivers.[/quote]
Good point.....hope it works!

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[quote=Lotus;1034721]Meriweather suspended for 2 games.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000267387/article/brandon-meriweather-banned-2-games-for-illegal-hits]Brandon Meriweather banned 2 games for illegal hits - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

The first penalty was a straightup shoulder to chest hit to a reciever that was running into him. Guess what two things are close to shoulders and chests??? Helmets and necks.

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[quote=mooby;1034725]I gotta figure he will appeal, if nothing else it will delay the banishment a little while. I'd rather lose him against teams that don't have Peyton/Rivers.[/quote]

His hearing has to be within 72 hours I believe. Either way the appeal will happen before the next game

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[quote=mooby;1034725]I gotta figure he will appeal, if nothing else it will delay the banishment a little while. I'd rather lose him against teams that don't have Peyton/Rivers.[/quote]

Probably doesn't matter either way, Manning will shred this secondary and LB's next week.

[QUOTE=redskins5044;1034731]Probably doesn't matter either way, Manning will shred this secondary and LB's next week.[/QUOTE]

Then don't watch, Eeyore.

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[quote=12thMan;1034431]Two things:

Why is Tim Tebow being mentioned in this thread?

I think 27 points wins the Denver game. I don't think Peyton will shred our D like folks are predicting.[/quote]


I'm afraid that if McCown and company can drop 34 points on our Defense, Peyton can top that in his sleep. Especially in Denver, after a loss to his former team.

And don't forget about Trindon Holliday against our "special" teams.

Our offense is going to have to have it's best game of the RGIII era to pull this one off.

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[quote=Zerohero;1034718]Who is that new cb wearing 23, he was ballin. Gave gameball to RG3 because with him running it just opens everything up, but Helu deserved it too.

[B][I][SIZE="4"]There was one person on forum who just ragged on Helu every chance in preseason,[/SIZE][/I][/B] i hope they can see now why so many like him. He is injury prone but when he plays he is great.[/quote]

Maybe your talking about me? I dont know.I didnt rag on Helu every chance I got,but I did say I didnt think Helu looked that good in preseason,I thought Royster looked better than Helu did in preseason play.I dont think Roysters had a single carry? Helu has looked far better in reg season then I thought he looked in preseason.

Edit:I might have thought Keiland Williams looked better than Helu instead of Royster,cant remember now

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[quote=htownskinfan;1034739]Maybe your talking about me? I dont know.I didnt rag on Helu every chance I got,but I did say I didnt think Helu looked that good in preseason,I thought Royster looked better than Helu did in preseason play.I dont think Roysters had a single carry? Helu has looked far better in reg season then I thought he looked in preseason[/quote]

If he keeps this up, I can see us getting a bunch of much needed extra picks for next years draft. (FD, Helu and Cousins). Not that I think we should trade Cousins, but I think that we will, and we'll get a 2nd and a 4th for him, somewhere around there.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1034522][B] ‏[SIZE="4"]@czabe

Brandon Merriweather: X button = "Helmet to Helmet Hit" Y button = "Miss Tackle". The other buttons don't do anything.[/SIZE][/B]


:laughing2






He had 11 carries for 84 yards.[/QUOTE]

Over his last two games....
Edit:
Hurricane pointed this out already - yes was referring to the last two weeks - in the article they clearly point that out as a "standout stat"


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[quote=NC_Skins;1034609]If RGIII doesn't learn to slide, he's going to end up much like this kid.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sAlyLOG.gif[/IMG]



He took a wicked shot he had no business taking yesterday. I'm surprised he didn't have a concussion off it.[/quote]


Is that Brandon Merriweather's pet?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1034743]Is that Brandon Merriweather's pet?[/quote]


If it was, that first shot would have never been to the hip.

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[quote=Mechanix544;1034740]If he keeps this up, I can see us getting a bunch of much needed extra picks for next years draft. (FD, Helu and Cousins). Not that I think we should trade Cousins, but I think that we will, and we'll get a 2nd and a 4th for him, somewhere around there.[/quote]

Now why would you trade Helu? You have to have a backup to spell Morris, I wouldn't do it. I love Helu, he adds another dimension to the offense, we still haven't seen him do what he does best, the screen pass. Helu=a poor mans Larry Centers with lots of potential.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1034609]If RGIII doesn't learn to slide, he's going to end up much like this kid.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sAlyLOG.gif[/IMG]



He took a wicked shot he had no business taking yesterday. I'm surprised he didn't have a concussion off it.[/quote]

lol, that kid's knee buckled kinda like RG3's did.

I hope they put a brace on him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1034728]His hearing has to be within 72 hours I believe. Either way the appeal will happen before the next game[/quote]

Man, we gets no breaks lol. I swear everytime another player gets suspended, it's like 2 weeks or more before his appeal is heard. But it happens to one of our guys and we only get 72 hours? Oh well. My last hope is that his punishment gets reduced to one game, seeing as how precedent has been set from other appeals on suspensions for hard hits. But Merriweather is a longtime offender so we'll see.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1034608]Can't help but think that Meriweather is being targeted by the refs to a degree. Yeah some of his hits this year have been questionable, but I thought the calls on him yesterday were really ticky tacky. Gotta feel bad for defenders these days. I really don't know what they're supposed to do.[/QUOTE]

I don't think they are targeting him as much as thy are targeting players like him. The dude can't tackle. He has some of the worst fundamentals out there. He almost always leaves his feet, which they are calling almost every time now. He also never ever ever wraps up. When he leaves his feet he usually crosses his arm and leads with his forearms. It's basically the same as leading with your helmet.

If he would stay on the ground, drive through the tackle and wrap up he won't get fined. He keeps leaving his feet he will continue to get flagged, fined and suspended.

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So what everyones thoughts on how they will try and contain Manning? Are they are going to have sell out and and play pass every down? It will be interesting to see what Haslett comes up with given the personnel he will have at his disposal. Hopefully Rambo finally shows up and Gumbs comes through....

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I mean, they'll sell out and challenge his declining arm strength and force him to throw down the field with pressure on him. Manning will respond probably by using that tunnel screen he loved so much. He used that a lot in 2010.

I think I trust our corners against their quick passing game. Gotta bring a lot of pressure this week because there's nothing the Redskins can do if they leave their safeties back in coverage.

I think we're about as strong a team from scrimmage as we're capable of being. If the game was just offense and defense, the Redskins would have a pretty decent chance this week. Problem is the special teams disparity is going to be somewhere between 10 and 14 points in this game that we have to make up elsewhere (Denver is better at special teams than any other team in football), and I don't think we're quite good enough offensively to make up that disparity.

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[quote=Jayroc24;1034760]So what everyones thoughts on how they will try and contain Manning? Are they are going to have sell out and and play pass every down? It will be interesting to see what Haslett comes up with given the personnel he will have at his disposal. Hopefully Rambo finally shows up and Gumbs comes through....[/quote]

I feel like we'll definitely see a heavy dose of the running game, they'll probably try to keep Peyton off the field by controlling the clock. I definitely think there's a good chance Peyton will pick us apart when he has the ball, so our best chance of winning is by not letting him have the ball.

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I think the only way for the Skins to beat the Broncos is for the Skins to get the ball last in a shootout.

Let's just accept that they are going to score a lot of points. With that as a given, I would take chances on defense, hoping for a turnover or two.

On offense, I would scour the playbook for some plays to use that nobody has seen yet this season.

On Special Teams, I would empasize kicking the ball through the endzone on kickoffs and out of bounds on punts. I would rather have a 30-yard net punt than let them have a 70-yard punt return for a TD.

A win against the Broncos would be huge! I say throw caution to the wind and try to steal one in Denver.

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Is this the thread to point out that LaRon Landry, who is not here in part because of his propensity for personal fouls, is rated as a top ten safety this year by PFF? I know a team that could use that kind of player!

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The first hit on Jeffrey was 100% legal. To me that's a football play and a little bit of targeting there. Just like the hit last week against Suh on Weedon. The NFL is out to get some guys. 30k for a completely legal hit? C'mon... If ST was still alive and playing I'm not sure he could even play in today's cream puff league.

What's so frustrating is Merton Hanks is the main culprit who's handing out these fines and suspensions. He was a DB so I'm not sure why he goes so overboard with it.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1034788]Is this the thread to point out that LaRon Landry, who is not here in part because of his propensity for personal fouls, is rated as a top ten safety this year by PFF? I know a team that could use that kind of player![/quote]

That's great for him, but what does living in the past do for us? He's not here anymore, and when he was here, he was constantly injured and refusing surgery to treat his injuries. Best of luck to him, because I'd rather focus on who we have on the team.

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[quote=mooby;1034766]I feel like we'll definitely see a heavy dose of the running game, they'll probably try to keep Peyton off the field by controlling the clock. I definitely think there's a good chance Peyton will pick us apart when he has the ball, so our best chance of winning is by not letting him have the ball.[/quote]The rules pretty much prevent us from keeping the ball away from Peyton Manning. No matter how well the Redskins can sustain their drives, they still have to kick the ball back to Manning at the conclusion of the drive.

But with that in mind, I'd put in at least one surprise onside kick play to try and steal a possession (as well as not having to cover a kick) from Denver.

What would absolutely kill us is if Shanahan pusses out and kicks a field goal in a fourth and short situation. That would be the very definition of beating oneself.

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[quote=Jayroc24;1034760]So what everyones thoughts on how they will try and contain Manning? Are they are going to have sell out and and play pass every down? It will be interesting to see what Haslett comes up with given the personnel he will have at his disposal. Hopefully Rambo finally shows up and Gumbs comes through....[/quote]

They have a few guys out on their o-line. Gotta get pressure and knock him around a bit. Can't let him sit back there and have all day or we have no chance. But the NFL is in love with Peyton so anyone that touches him is subject to a fine/suspension.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1034788]Is this the thread to point out that LaRon Landry, who is not here in part because of his propensity for personal fouls, is rated as a top ten safety this year by PFF? I know a team that could use that kind of player![/quote]

He still can't cover anyone. He might as well have changed positions and played OLB.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1034791]The rules pretty much prevent us from keeping the ball away from Peyton Manning. No matter how well the Redskins can sustain their drives, they still have to kick the ball back to Manning at the conclusion of the drive.

But with that in mind, I'd put in at least one surprise onside kick play to try and steal a possession (as well as not having to cover a kick) from Denver.

What would absolutely kill us is if Shanahan pusses out and kicks a field goal in a fourth and short situation. That would be the very definition of beating oneself.[/quote]

True but you can still limit his TOP by using the run game. Obviously the Broncos will be aware that we are definitely going to try and run the ball, because that not only eats up clock, but really allows us to go out and execute our offense, but at the end of the day we still have to execute.

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[quote=Lotus;1034715]Bowen tore a PCL against Da Bears.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/57782/de-stephen-bowen-tears-ligament]DE Stephen Bowen tears ligament - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]


Bad.

Jenkins will start now I guess, with Golston on the other end.

Defense is getting thin but I don't think it makes a difference at this point, they were already too bad to repair.

I really hope Doughty makes it back this week though.

Maybe since we're deep at LB, we should consider moving Kerrigan or Orakpo to DE, preferably 'Rak. I know they've only been 4-3 DEs but they're not getting sacks in this scheme, so we're wasting them. These guys are made to punish QBs and we should put them in whatever position helps them do that.

I'd start:

Jenkins - Cofield - Orakpo

Kerrigan - Fletcher - Riley - Jackson

Hall - Amerson at CB

Doughty - Wilson at S



or go all out after QBs:

Kerrigan - Cofield - Orakpo

Jackson - Fletcher - Riley - Jenkins

Hall - Amerson at CB

Doughty - Wilson at S



Think how scary it would be to have Orakpo and Kerrigan lining up on both ends to come after your QB every play.

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[quote=mooby;1034790]That's great for him, but what does living in the past do for us? He's not here anymore, and when he was here, he was constantly injured and refusing surgery to treat his injuries. Best of luck to him, because I'd rather focus on who we have on the team.[/quote]It is no less depressing to focus on the safeties that are here.

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[quote=mooby;1034797]True but you can still limit his TOP by using the run game. Obviously the Broncos will be aware that we are definitely going to try and run the ball, because that not only eats up clock, but really allows us to go out and execute our offense, but at the end of the day we still have to execute.[/quote]Aren't the Broncos a lot better vs the run than the pass though?

I agree that we're going to have to run a bit to execute our full offense. We're really not talented enough to sit back and chuck it the way Dallas did for an entire half against them.

I don't think it's a secret that the only way to beat the Broncos is for the offense to put up a bunch of TDs early, and then let the defense take advantage of the depleted Broncos OL. Only problem is "score a bunch of touchdowns" is going to be task of execution, rather than something you can design before the game. If only it were that easy.

BTW, I'm watching the Colts-Redskins game from 2010 right now and Garcon just got behind the defense for a first quarter touchdown. We should totally go get that guy.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1034798]Think how scary it would be to have Orakpo and Kerrigan lining up on both ends to come after your QB every play.[/quote]I think we call that our base defense.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1034803]I think we call that our base defense.[/quote]

It's not working. Time to change things up if you want to wear these colors ever again, Jim.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1034798]
I'd start:

Jenkins - Cofield - Orakpo

Kerrigan - Fletcher - Riley - Jackson

Hall - Amerson at CB

Doughty - Wilson at S

[/quote]

[B]I really like your idea![/B]

Surprise the Broncos and get your best players on the field.

Orakpo vs. an OG all day long could be sweet.

Jackson is starter material and he's better than Orakpo in pass coverage.

Orakpo and Jackson both coming off the right side. Nice.

Starting the veteran Wilson at S could help a lot.

I really hope Reed Doughty can go.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1034802][B]Aren't the Broncos a lot better vs the run than the pass though?[/B]I agree that we're going to have to run a bit to execute our full offense. We're really not talented enough to sit back and chuck it the way Dallas did for an entire half against them.

I don't think it's a secret that the only way to beat the Broncos is for the offense to put up a bunch of TDs early, and then let the defense take advantage of the depleted Broncos OL. Only problem is "score a bunch of touchdowns" is going to be task of execution, rather than something you can design before the game. If only it were that easy.

BTW, I'm watching the Colts-Redskins game from 2010 right now and Garcon just got behind the defense for a first quarter touchdown. We should totally go get that guy.[/quote]

Have they played against the zone run scheme yet this year? I think Jacksonville is running some zone concepts and MJD had a decent day against them.

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To your point Monkeydad, if 2010 is any indication, we're going to be in our sub package more or less the whole game. That means Orakpo and Kerrigan will see a bunch of snaps lined up between the tackles.

If Manning is going to fast pass though, there is no alignment up front that is going to take that opportunity away from them. He's going to keep our DL guessing so it is difficult to get pressure there. It's something he's good at.

If we start off tackling their receivers in open space after the catch, then I think they'll start to draw up longer developing routes, and then Kerrigan and Orakpo will have an effect on the game. If we miss a bunch of tackles early, they'll be on the board quickly and will spend a lot of the game rushing against a light box.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1034788]Is this the thread to point out that LaRon Landry, who is not here in part because of his propensity for personal fouls, is rated as a top ten safety this year by PFF? I know a team that could use that kind of player![/quote]

Personal fouls? How can you have a personal foul when you go for the knock out hit and miss your target like LL did 90% of the time.

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[quote=Chico23231;1034808]Have they played against the zone run scheme yet this year? I think Jacksonville is running some zone concepts and MJD had a decent day against them.[/quote]Dallas is primarily zone this year. Philly is almost exclusively zone. But since the Broncos are a zone blocking team, they practice against that every day.

There are chunks to be had in the rushing game against anyone that we play, but it probably shouldn't be the focal point of the gameplan this week.

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[quote=firstdown;1034811]Personal fouls? How can you have a personal foul when you go for the knock out hit and miss your target like LL did 90% of the time.[/quote]Man of mystery that guy was.

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[url=http://nfl.si.com/2013/10/20/robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-chicago-bears/?sct=nfl_bf4_a4]Robert Griffin III's pregame speech inspires Washington Redskins to grab crucial win | Audibles - SI.com[/url]

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[quote=Monkeydad;1034798]Bad.

Jenkins will start now I guess, with Golston on the other end.

Defense is getting thin but I don't think it makes a difference at this point, they were already too bad to repair.

I really hope Doughty makes it back this week though.

Maybe since we're deep at LB, we should consider moving Kerrigan or Orakpo to DE, preferably 'Rak. I know they've only been 4-3 DEs but they're not getting sacks in this scheme, so we're wasting them. These guys are made to punish QBs and we should put them in whatever position helps them do that.

I'd start:

Jenkins - Cofield - Orakpo

Kerrigan - Fletcher - Riley - Jackson

Hall - Amerson at CB

Doughty - Wilson at S



or go all out after QBs:

Kerrigan - Cofield - Orakpo

Jackson - Fletcher - Riley - Jenkins

Hall - Amerson at CB

Doughty - Wilson at S



Think how scary it would be to have Orakpo and Kerrigan lining up on both ends to come after your QB every play.[/quote]

If you read the link, you would see that Bowen is still expected to play in Denver.

And Rak is too small to be an effective every down 3-4 DE. If we start him at DE, we might as well just hand Moreno 100+ yards.