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Would also like to add thay on the sack fumble... Reed runs the wrong route and would of been wide open for a quick TD. Was a good play call but bad execution.

That is why I said. " we just played a bad game all around".

To many things going wrong for this team and not enough fingers.

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Was not comparing Jason to griff in football terms, was comparing the smile after missing a wide open receiver on the way back to the sidelines.

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZZhjm6IcAAf-VE.jpg:large[/IMG]

I have to say that I lost a lot of respect for Griffin over his press conference following the Eagles game. The true character of a person is shown at his worst time, and this is what we get? A immature brat that threw his coaches under the bus and didn't own up to his shitty game he had?

[QUOTE=Bucket;1042280]Would also like to add thay on the sack fumble... Reed runs the wrong route and would of been wide open for a quick TD. Was a good play call but bad execution.

That is why I said. " we just played a bad game all around".

To many things going wrong for this team and not enough fingers.[/QUOTE]

There is only one finger needed for this team right now, the one in the middle.

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/11/19/mike-shanahan-reacting-to-tough-questions-in-photos/]Mike Shanahan reacting to tough questions, in photos[/url]


This is amazing. :laughing2

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[quote=NC_Skins;1042313][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZZhjm6IcAAf-VE.jpg:large[/IMG]

I have to say that I lost a lot of respect for Griffin over his press conference following the Eagles game. The true character of a person is shown at his worst time, and this is what we get? A immature brat that threw his coaches under the bus and didn't own up to his shitty game he had?[/quote]

From this article:

[quote]“I was trying to throw the ball in the back of the end zone,” SuperBob said. “It didn’t get to where I wanted it to go. Obviously I was on my heels. Something I can definitely learn from.”

Here’s something that hopefully SuperBob is learning in his second NFL season that he also clearly didn’t learn in the offseason as well — humility.

Read more: [url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/18/loverro-all-lessons-rg3-still-has-learn-humility-n/#ixzz2l6b5F22k]LOVERRO: For RG3, it's not the heat, it's the humility - Washington Times[/url]
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter[/quote]

Sounds like he was owning that mistake to me.

Ideally he shouldn't have brought up anything that could be viewed as a criticism of the coaches or play calling. But on the other hand he's frustrated just like everyone else and sometimes you say shit you shouldn't. He's not the first guy to do it.

I think people need to take a step back and realize he's a 2nd year QB and a 23 year old guy. He's figuring things out as he goes, on and off the field. It always amazes me how as a society we love to build people up and in the next breath break them back down.

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[quote=Mattyk;1042327]From this article:



Sounds like he was owning that mistake to me.

Ideally he shouldn't have brought up anything that could be viewed as a criticism of the coaches or play calling. But on the other hand he's frustrated just like everyone else and sometimes you say shit you shouldn't. He's not the first guy to do it.

I think people need to take a step back and realize he's a 2nd year QB and a 23 year old guy. He's figuring things out as he goes, on and off the field. It always amazes me how as a society we love to build people up and in the next breath break them back down.[/quote]


One day he's a hero next he's a problem that's how it sounds like around here

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[quote=tmandoug1;1042281]Was not comparing Jason to griff in football terms, was comparing the smile after missing a wide open receiver on the way back to the sidelines.[/quote]

We are mad about smiles?

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[quote=Chico23231;1042334]We are mad about smiles?[/quote]

Good thing we're getting down to the important stuff.

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[quote=Mattyk;1042327]From this article:



Sounds like he was owning that mistake to me.

Ideally he shouldn't have brought up anything that could be viewed as a criticism of the coaches or play calling. But on the other hand he's frustrated just like everyone else and sometimes you say shit you shouldn't. He's not the first guy to do it.

I think people need to take a step back and realize he's a 2nd year QB and a 23 year old guy. [B]He's figuring things out as he goes, on and off the field. It always amazes me how as a society we love to build people up and in the next breath break them back down.[/B][/quote]

Agree 100%. This guy was on fire last year, and all is forgotten. He is going to be great folks, this second year he did what most due hit the sophomore slump. I don't expect the same after a healthy offseason.

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[quote=Mattyk;1042327]From this article:



Sounds like he was owning that mistake to me.

Ideally he shouldn't have brought up anything that could be viewed as a criticism of the coaches or play calling. But on the other hand he's frustrated just like everyone else and sometimes you say shit you shouldn't. He's not the first guy to do it.

I think people need to take a step back and realize he's a 2nd year QB and a 23 year old guy. He's figuring things out as he goes, on and off the field. It always amazes me how as a society we love to build people up and in the next breath break them back down.[/quote]

Spot on Matt! The guy is still a kid for heaven's sake. None of us had it all figured out at 23. RGIII is no different. He's a young pup. He'll figure it all out soon enough and all of this negativity will go away.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1042313][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZZhjm6IcAAf-VE.jpg:large[/IMG]

I have to say that I lost a lot of respect for Griffin over his press conference following the Eagles game. The true character of a person is shown at his worst time, and this is what we get? A immature brat that threw his coaches under the bus and didn't own up to his shitty game he had?[/quote]

They were saying the same things about Cam last season. Shannahan needs to face up to teh fact that he has to improve. ST suck, defense sucks, everything sucks.

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[quote=punch it in;1042233]Griff is missing alot of throws this year, missed a ton Sunday. Including the one to Paulsen. I dont care what parts of anyones body were in his face. That being said, once again I will plead ....do not compare him to JC.
.....and good call on "over hyped" JC. Lmao. First I ever heard of him being hyped or overhyped or anyhyped also.[/quote]

Once again. Paulson quit on the route.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042243]What about josh mcdaniels as a hc[/quote]


nooooooo

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[quote=Mattyk;1042327]From this article:



Sounds like he was owning that mistake to me.

Ideally he shouldn't have brought up anything that could be viewed as a criticism of the coaches or play calling. But on the other hand he's frustrated just like everyone else and sometimes you say shit you shouldn't. He's not the first guy to do it.

[B]I think people need to take a step back and realize he's a 2nd year QB and a 23 year old guy. He's figuring things out as he goes, on and off the field. It always amazes me how as a society we love to build people up and in the next breath break them back down.[/B][/quote]
100% this.. Also, realize that Loverro is a troll whose schtick is to be anti whatever is popular. He's the same as Rick Snider was at the Examiner, basically paid to be the foil to keep conversation going. His whole thing calling RG3 'SuperBob' is an intentional insult to be in a position of criticism when he's right and condescension when he's wrong.

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Yeah the SuperBob stuff is just childish. I sure wish I got paid to offer up lame stuff like that.

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CAM NEWTON!!! Remember last year how this board dogged him and wrote him off. RG3 will be fine. These clowns trying to destroy him, but Shannahan is horrible. Shanny might be tapped out. We have 6 more games to see.

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[quote=Mattyk;1042402]Yeah the SuperBob stuff is just childish. I sure wish I got paid to offer up lame stuff like that.[/quote]

Exactly, reeks of envy.

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[quote=Bucket;1042280]Would also like to add thay on the sack fumble... Reed runs the wrong route and would of been wide open for a quick TD. Was a good play call but bad execution.

That is why I said. " we just played a bad game all around".

To many things going wrong for this team and not enough fingers.[/quote]

The sack fumble could've been avoided if Helu makes a block on his defender giving Griffin more than 1 second. Perhaps I am spoiled reminiscing of Portis and his blocking....

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[quote=Mattyk;1042327]Sounds like he was owning that mistake to me.[/quote]

How about the other balls that sailed over receivers hands? The bomb he overthrew Robinson on that would have tied up the game? How about the fumble where he held the ball too long? (yes, I know Helu half assed the block) It was more than just that one throw.

[quote=Mattyk;1042327]Ideally he shouldn't have brought up anything that could be viewed as a criticism of the coaches or play calling. But on the other hand he's frustrated just like everyone else and sometimes you say shit you shouldn't. He's not the first guy to do it.

I think people need to take a step back and realize he's a 2nd year QB and a 23 year old guy. He's figuring things out as he goes, on and off the field. It always amazes me how as a society we love to build people up and in the next breath break them back down.[/quote]

He's not the first because Cam Newton did the exact same thing last year, after he blew a chance to win a game by throwing a ball in the dirt with Olsen wide open in the end zone. Needless to say, Cam got raked across the coals and rightfully so.

Tell me, do you hear any flap from Luck? Tannehill? Wilson? Any of them? This young excuse is just that. An excuse. Time for Robert to put on the big boy pants and suck it up. He wants the fame, the glory, the commercials, but also wants to deflect the blame. Fuck that. Take the heat. Yes, I do agree with him about the play calling and yes I'm ready for Kyle and several other coaches to move on. However, you aren't going to endear yourself to the fans, public, or any future coaches by saying the stuff he's said over the coarse of the past year. You'd thought he'd learn from the whole kneegate issue, and the crap over the training camp. It's not hard to just shut the fuck up. Really, it's not.

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RG3 had a terrible game Sunday no doubt but he still had almost 300 yards and 2 tds.. That is a great game for R Wilson though

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1042404]CAM NEWTON!!! Remember last year how this board dogged him and wrote him off. RG3 will be fine. These clowns trying to destroy him, but Shannahan is horrible. Shanny might be tapped out. We have 6 more games to see.[/quote]


Not me... I have said since day 1 he will be a stud, I'd take him today over Kaep and Wilson for the next 10 years

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042468]RG3 had a terrible game Sunday no doubt but he still had almost 300 yards and 2 tds.. That is a great game for R Wilson though[/quote]

I don't think R Wilson could hold Robert's jock strap. Give Robert that defense and put Wilson on this team and lets see the results. Defense goes a long way.



[quote=skinsfaninok;1042333]One day he's a hero next he's a problem that's how it sounds like around here[/quote]

No, I don't think he's the problem around here, but he does contribute to it. My only beef is with his constant babbling to the media where he needs to really shut the hell up.

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I don't know. Sounds like RG3 was praising the eagles, more than bashing the coaches. lol. I guess people just want to see the evil.

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Not calling you out NC I was speaking as in general and I agree with u about Wilson, again for the 1 millionth time, I like RW as a QB but dude is never asked to do anything like RG3 or Luck is asked to do.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/3013/rg-iii-facing-different-challenges]RG III facing different challenges - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

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After next weeks game. RG3 would of thrown the ball more than he did all last year.

Nice little tid bit of information.

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Our first year everyone played us with eight-man fronts, sometimes almost nine-man fronts,” Shanahan said. “When you do that you have guys wide open like we did last year. That’s one reason the play-action was so good. This year [teams are saying], ‘We’re playing you more passing and you have to earn the right in that run game.’ Which we’ve been able to do. You’re not always going to get that deep ball so you have to dump it off and be patient. That’s part of the NFL. No matter what quarterback you’re going against, no matter what system you go against, you have to relate or adjust your game plan accordingly. That’s one of the reasons we ran the ball so much against a team that was very good at stopping the run.”

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[quote=NC_Skins;1042467]How about the other balls that sailed over receivers hands? The bomb he overthrew Robinson on that would have tied up the game? How about the fumble where he held the ball too long? (yes, I know Helu half assed the block) It was more than just that one throw.

He's not the first because Cam Newton did the exact same thing last year, after he blew a chance to win a game by throwing a ball in the dirt with Olsen wide open in the end zone. Needless to say, Cam got raked across the coals and rightfully so.

Tell me, do you hear any flap from Luck? Tannehill? Wilson? Any of them? This young excuse is just that. An excuse. Time for Robert to put on the big boy pants and suck it up. He wants the fame, the glory, the commercials, but also wants to deflect the blame. Fuck that. Take the heat. Yes, I do agree with him about the play calling and yes I'm ready for Kyle and several other coaches to move on. However, you aren't going to endear yourself to the fans, public, or any future coaches by saying the stuff he's said over the coarse of the past year. You'd thought he'd learn from the whole kneegate issue, and the crap over the training camp. It's not hard to just shut the fuck up. Really, it's not.[/quote]

What's he supposed to do, go through a laundry list of his mistakes and apologize for each one?

At this point anything he says is going to get picked apart.

He wasn't right in his comments but I don't think it's the end of the world either.

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[quote=Bucket;1042471]I don't know. Sounds like RG3 was praising the eagles, more than bashing the coaches. lol. I guess people just want to see the evil.[/quote]

I'm not sure how you can construe it any other way. It's not taking the evil out of it, and he certainly wasn't saying it to praise the Eagles. How do I know? BECAUSE WHAT HE SAID WAS THE FRIGGING TRUTH.

Our coaches were out-coached, and they were out-schemed. They didn't change shit from the first game and we still got our asses handed to us after 10 days of prep time.

It still doesn't change the fact that he needs to really shut the hell up. Trust me, he doesn't need to argue his plight about coaching to the media. Anybody can look at this product and see something is wrong with it beyond just players. That'll work itself out in time, he just needs to perform.

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The bomb was to Garcon wasn't it? I remember him being held with two hands and no call. Which slowed the route. Maybe it was Robinson, but I remember the play on the left sideline. I remember the DB holding just for a second our WR. Which ennded in a incomplete pass.

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[quote=Mattyk;1042475]What's he supposed to do, go through a laundry list of his mistakes and apologize for each one?

At this point anything he says is going to get picked apart.

[B]He wasn't right in his comments but I don't think it's the end of the world either.[/B][/quote]


Most definitely. It isn't the end of the world and we move onto next week. I don't agree with the notion that anything he says will get picked apart. We've had 7 losses and this is the only loss where his words have been used to flame the fire.

[I]
"Hey guys, that last play was totally on me. The team put me in good position to secure this game and I blew it. There were other throws that could have been made during the course of the game to where it didn't come down to the last play but you learn from it. You'd like a mulligan on some of them, but that simply isn't possible. Next time we'll make those throws and come out on top. I'm proud of the way the guys fought back to make this a winnable game and I'm glad to share the locker room with these guys."[/I]

See, not really that hard.

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[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/11/19/moss-the-ball-was-in-rgiiis-hand-last/]Moss: The Ball Was in RGIII’s Hand Last « CBS DC[/url]


Seems I'm not the only one that feels this way. Now you have Moss calling out Robert's leadership skills. I'd say that's some strong words there, and it isn't minced.

[quote]“If we’re going to win games, we need to win games with our guy saying ‘at the end of the day, I didn’t make a play,’ regardless of if it wasn’t him. And that’s how I feel. Because that’s what we’re out there to do. I’m not sitting here to tell you why it didn’t happen, or who didn’t make the play for me to make a play.

“If I’m the guy, that’s at the end of the day have the ball in my hand, and we’re sitting there and the game is over because of me, I didn’t do enough to make the play. I didn’t do enough to help us win. And that’s what I would do.[/quote]

He also wrecked the Skins as well for not instructing some players on what they should be saying or not be saying to the media. He also admitted the Eagles knew the plays they were running. This is a train wreck.

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I'm no RG3 sympathizer, but Moss needs to check himself as well. Dude stays dropping passes.

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[quote=Bucket;1042473]After next weeks game. RG3 would of thrown the ball more than he did all last year.

Nice little tid bit of information.[/quote]

Funny how that happens when your down by double digets most games.

[QUOTE=CrustyRedskin;1042556]Funny how that happens when your down by double digets most games.[/QUOTE]


Exactly.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1042553]I'm no RG3 sympathizer, but Moss needs to check himself as well. Dude stays dropping passes.[/quote]

And he needs to start returning punts and kickoffs.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1042561]And he needs to start returning punts and kickoffs.[/quote]

He's too damn slow at this point.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1042562]He's too damn slow at this point.[/quote]

I'm sure he's better than anyone we have right now.

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[quote=punch it in;1042557]Exactly.[/quote]

I 2nd that.

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I'm hoping we get to see more Nick Williams in the slot.