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Both those guys might be gone by the time the skins pick.

Hopefully the skins just pick the best player almost regardless of position, because the skins need help everywhere.

I still think if it comes down to a linemen or a reviever, the skins better go with the linemen.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1057470]Not saying he wouldn't be great, but the games I saw of him were very "Hankerson"-y. People kept calling Hank a long plodder and I see that in Benjamin. Now, hands-wise, Benjamin is AWESOME and is way more physical than Hank.[/quote]


That is what I was thinking too. There are times when he doesn't look like the best WR on his team, but looks dominant other times. Like I said he is 6'5" 230lbs, that is a big physical boy and supposedly he runs in the 4.4 range, so he has the makings of a star I just dont know.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1057460][B]That is a MASSIVE man. Jeezus.[/B] Cofield can play whatever along the line, so if we got a giant NT, I'd be OK with it (if someone fell, not targeting it).

And I love Sammy Watkins. HATE what he always did against VT though. Guy is a straight baller and it seems like we're seeing a ton of can't-miss WR prospects the last few years.[/quote]


Yeah, that is a big big man, and he makes me feel small, and I am a shade under 6'5."

I think Benjamin made more plays than hank did but also had a way better Qb so it's kinda hard to tell

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1057470]Not saying he wouldn't be great, but the games I saw of him were very "Hankerson"-y. People kept calling Hank a long plodder and I see that in Benjamin. Now, hands-wise, Benjamin is AWESOME and is way more physical than Hank.[/quote]

Benjamin's biggest problem is his poor route running. He's large, physical, and fast, but he'll need to work on routes. And I don't think he'll last to the 2nd, but if he would, I'd pass. OL is a bigger need, and we can help WR with FAs or later draft picks.

Edit: He's also had cases of stone hands in some games. With the way Warpathers have ripped Hankerson a new one for his "bad" hands, Benjamin isn't an ideal choice.

[quote=skinsfaninok;1057452][B]Won't happen [/B], maybe Benjamin though[/quote]

Agree. Watkins is definitely a top-10 pick.

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To me Amerson is barry wilburn at CB but Darren Sharper at FS. I'm not saying he can't play or be a solid CB.I'm saying to maximize his potentail to me his best position is FS.

Jordan Matthews will go later but turn out better than Benjamin.Benjamin will probably go in the 1st. Reminds me of Jon Baldwin which is a bad thing

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Keim wrote this about Amerson.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/5114/rookie-report-david-amerson]Rookie report: David Amerson - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

I think patience is necessary with any rookie. Let’s wait and see how the kid does where he is having had a season under his belt and (hopefully) more reliable play around him.

Re Matthews vs Benjamin, I think JM is a better starter as of now but KB might have greater upside. I’d personally keep an eye on Donte Moncrief out of Ole Miss. He had something of a down year but there’s a lot to like about his game. I’ve read a few detailed reports on him suggesting he high points the ball as well as anyone in this class, and is a savvy route runner with enough speed to be a deep threat.

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[url=http://realredskins.com/2014/01/31/need-to-know-five-possible-redskins-draft-targets-at-safety/]Need to Know: Five possible Redskins draft targets at safety | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

Read this, what do you think?

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1058067][url=http://realredskins.com/2014/01/31/need-to-know-five-possible-redskins-draft-targets-at-safety/]Need to Know: Five possible Redskins draft targets at safety | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

Read this, what do you think?[/quote]

I'm not sure about drafting a rookie to play safety again, however I would not mind if we sign a vet FS and draft Deone Bucannon to see if he could beat out Phillip Thomas for SS spot. We need a safety who can put fear into receivers, we saw how big difference that made for our defense when we had Sean Taylor on field. Bucannon might have the potential to do that.

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I believe our draft strategy will become a bit more clear once FA starts and we see who we're targeting. With the available DBs in the FA market I think that's where we spend money. I like the idea of drafting along the O and D lines and maybe a WR or ILB if you can get great value.

Any thoughts on Allen Robinson, the Penn St. receiver at this spot? I like the talent and upside of him. He's a big kid at 6'3 210 with good acceleration.

2013: 97 Rec, 1432 Yards, 6 TD.
2012: 77 Rec, 1018 Yards, 11TD.

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Here's a mock draft i did on fanspeak. I think it turned out pretty well. I'd be ecstatic if we ended up with these players.

34 S HA’SEAN CLINTON-DIX, ALABAMA
66 ILB CHRISTIAN JONES, FLORIDA STATE
98 WR MARTAVIS BRYANT, CLEMSON
130 OT SEANTREL HENDERSON, MIAMI
162 RB DE’ANTHONY THOMAS, OREGON
194 TE COLT LYERLA, OREGON

[url=http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/draft.php?d=hkxeyi]Fanspeak's On the Clock Mock Draft Simulator[/url]

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[quote=The Dull Roar;1058092]Here's a mock draft i did on fanspeak. I think it turned out pretty well. I'd be ecstatic if we ended up with these players.

34 S HA’SEAN CLINTON-DIX, ALABAMA
66 ILB CHRISTIAN JONES, FLORIDA STATE
98 WR MARTAVIS BRYANT, CLEMSON
130 OT SEANTREL HENDERSON, MIAMI
162 RB DE’ANTHONY THOMAS, OREGON
194 TE COLT LYERLA, OREGON

[url=http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/draft.php?d=hkxeyi]Fanspeak's On the Clock Mock Draft Simulator[/url][/quote]

I'd be extremely happy with that except for the first pick. Like to see us go D-Line there with your other picks.

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[quote=Chico23231;1058093]I'd be extremely happy with that except for the first pick. Like to see us go D-Line there with your other picks.[/quote]

Yeah i was really hoping that Stephon Tuitt would fall to pick number 34 but he didnt so i just went with the BPA at a position of need. I doubt Clinton-Dix falls that far anyway.

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It's also predicated on the idea that De'Anthony Thomas would be playing much more slot receiver than running back.

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Morgan Moses may be a great pick to solidify the offensive line at 34.

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[quote=The Dull Roar;1058092]Here's a mock draft i did on fanspeak. I think it turned out pretty well. I'd be ecstatic if we ended up with these players.

34 S HA’SEAN CLINTON-DIX, ALABAMA
66 ILB CHRISTIAN JONES, FLORIDA STATE
98 WR MARTAVIS BRYANT, CLEMSON
130 OT SEANTREL HENDERSON, MIAMI
162 RB DE’ANTHONY THOMAS, OREGON
194 TE COLT LYERLA, OREGON



After watching most opposing quarterbacks looking like Hall of Famers against the Redskins I would agree secondary help has to be a top priority.

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[quote=GridIron26;1058084]I'm not sure about drafting a rookie to play safety again, however I would not mind if we sign a vet FS and draft Deone Bucannon to see if he could beat out Phillip Thomas for SS spot. We need a safety who can put fear into receivers, we saw how big difference that made for our defense when we had Sean Taylor on field. Bucannon might have the potential to do that.[/quote]

Heck, yeah. If he's is available in the 3rd, that's a must-take. He's a huge hitter and makes big plays. Deone Bucannon would be an excellent pick.

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I think we should take Jason Verrett at 34

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[quote=Orakpwned;1068251]I think we should take Jason Verrett at 34[/quote]

I really doubt he will still be on the board at 34. Need a backup plan to that. I'm back to db. Assuming it's a first round grade and rather than RT. Just because I think it's more likely there will be offensive linemen that are available and comparable in the 3rd - with what's available with the 34th pick.

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Do you think Roby would be available?

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[quote=Orakpwned;1068261]Do you think Roby would be available?[/quote]

Don't know. Haven't seen him play yet. I gotta answer you back after.

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I'm gonna get a lot of flak, but oh well - I think Bucannon might be a good pick at 34.

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[quote=Orakpwned;1068261]Do you think Roby would be available?[/quote]

Maybe , great athlete but he did get beat a few times . The good news , there will be some talented guys at OL , DL, DB at 34 . DL should be addressed in this draft , we have 4 over 30 and 2 with an ACL . I really hope that our 2nd and 3rd rd picks have an impact this season .

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1058120][quote=The Dull Roar;1058092]Here's a mock draft i did on fanspeak. I think it turned out pretty well. I'd be ecstatic if we ended up with these players.

34 S HA’SEAN CLINTON-DIX, ALABAMA
66 ILB CHRISTIAN JONES, FLORIDA STATE
98 WR MARTAVIS BRYANT, CLEMSON
130 OT SEANTREL HENDERSON, MIAMI
162 RB DE’ANTHONY THOMAS, OREGON
194 TE COLT LYERLA, OREGON



After watching most opposing quarterbacks looking like Hall of Famers against the Redskins I would agree secondary help has to be a top priority.[/quote]
We really have no need for a WR , T) Henderson , if he is highly motivated , Lyerla , I think he has been arrested a few times . Would be happy with Dix and Jones !

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[quote=Orakpwned;1068261]Do you think Roby would be available?[/quote]

Just saw him in videos from some games in 2013 and he looked terrible. In a lot of reports, it says he had a much better 2012. But why should I go back to 2012 when he looked like crap in 2013. I wouldn't want him with the 34 pick even if he's still available.

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[quote=budw38;1068279][quote=Buffalo Bob;1058120]
We really have no need for a WR , T Henderson , is he is highly motivated , Lyerla , I think he has been arrested a few times . Would be happy with Dix and Jones ![/quote]

CBS Sports says Colt Lyerla is "clearly a 1st round talent." With our need at TE, he'd be a good risk after the 5th. Him and Reed at TE would be an unstoppable force, providing, of course, he stayed out of trouble. Because he does have issues off the field.

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Brandon Thomas G Clemson is my late round risk pick. He had an ACL tear during a pre-draft workout.... probably a 2nd or 3rd prior to the injury

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=89811&draftyear=2014&genpos=OG]Brandon Thomas | Clemson, OG : 2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

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It's better to go RT with the 34th pick.....the positive thing about this draft is that we pick near the top of every round.....we should get great value with our picks....

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Watching NFL Network yesterday Bucky Brooks talked about SKINS drafting Joel Bitonio now alot of drafts are saying we are taking him or would be a good choice.

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Guys

We are not going RT for our first pick. Please stop that insanity.

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[quote=Bucket;1068680]Guys

We are not going RT for our first pick. Please stop that insanity.[/quote]

Why would we not. It's certainly an option. And given the minimal effort put into that position at FA, I would say they will certainly target RT early.

Now, I could see dropping back 6-8 spots, for the right offer, and picking an RT around 40-42, but certainly RT, ILB and Safety will be spots of interest.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1068682]Why would we not. It's certainly an option. And given the minimal effort put into that position at FA, I would say they will certainly target RT early.

Now, I could see dropping back 6-8 spots, for the right offer, and picking an RT around 40-42, but certainly RT, ILB and Safety will be spots of interest.[/quote]Agree 100%. Pick 34 will likely be a reach for the RT, ILB prospects available. Outside of the top 2 Safety picks, there's no one to consider near this spot. Dix and Pryor will be gone, if either is there though then the pick is a no-brainer.

Best to trade back and either stockpile future picks or late 2nd - 4th round OL / ILB prospects.

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[quote=Bucket;1068680]Guys

We are not going RT for our first pick. Please stop that insanity.[/quote]

Why not....thats exactly what I want them to do.

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Unless there's an absolute stud of a RT available I don't see us going that way in the 2nd round either.

The fan's view of Polumbus vs. what the coaches think of him differs greatly.

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[quote=Mattyk;1068699]Unless there's an absolute stud of a RT available I don't see us going that way in the 2nd round either.

The fan's view of Polumbus vs. what the coaches think of him differs greatly.[/quote]

Maybe, but we have made minimal attempts to upgrade that specific position, and Gruden in an interview particularly blamed his RT in arena football as causing a broken leg or arm. I'm not saying that proves anything, but it certainly would seem he understands the importance of a solid line.

Also Gruden's RT at Cinci was a former 1st round pick. So I can't see him being content with Polumbus

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What position they target all depends on who's available at that position and who's available at other positions. Like if Verrett was still available, it doesn't matter who else is available because he's got top 10 talent. There's also a possibility that a safety may be overlooked in the first round. Like my man Bucannon that some analysts have liked and are saying is a first round talent. I haven't seen many OTs that analysts have been saying that about that are projected to be available at pick 34.

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... Just seems like there are some sure fire first round talent OTs that will be picked in the first round. Then there's a drop off in talent level. The next group of OTs seem to project at the 3rd round at best because of different reasons and risks. So I think that any OT picked in the 2nd round will be a reach.

But there's also another dilemma with the Redskins' high 3rd rounder- there still may be players available at other positions- probably even at pos of need- that grade out with 2nd round talent. What do you do then?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1068702]Maybe, but we have made minimal attempts to upgrade that specific position, and Gruden in an interview particularly blamed his RT in arena football as causing a broken leg or arm. I'm not saying that proves anything, but it certainly would seem he understands the importance of a solid line.

Also Gruden's RT at Cinci was a former 1st round pick. So I can't see him being content with Polumbus[/quote]

I think we got RT in rd 3 but unless Taylor Lewan is staring us im the face at 34, I dont see it either. TE, FS, SS, CB would be my guess as favorites.

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... I guess it depends on how much and how strongly you believe it will upgrade the RT position over Montgomery. Versus the feeling and grade you have with a player at another position.

This is probably why they say you need to stay true to your board- to make sure that you're basing your decision based on a well thought-out plan.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1068702]Maybe, but [B]we have made minimal attempts to upgrade that specific position[/B], and Gruden in an interview particularly blamed his RT in arena football as causing a broken leg or arm. I'm not saying that proves anything, but it certainly would seem he understands the importance of a solid line.

Also Gruden's RT at Cinci was a former 1st round pick. So I can't see him being content with Polumbus[/quote]

Yup. When we did try to upgrade, we reached out to Penn, a premier player. Therefore I wouldn't be too surprised if we grabbed a relatively premier draftee like Moses, should he still be there.

I still think we'll grab Amaro, though.