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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1066181]4 years 24-28 million with 15 million guaranteed?[/quote]

Not going to sign for that cheap, or I'd be shocked if he did.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1066184]Not going to sign for that cheap, or I'd be shocked if he did.[/quote]

Didn't think so, I was just making a statement.

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DJax was crying about a $10.5 mil. payday in Philly. He will want as much and the Raiders may give him that much. Then, the next day, he'll want more.

As always Keim knocks it out of the park:
[url]http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nflnation&id=122847&src=desktop[/url]

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1066180]I doubt it would do that. No reason why we can't sign Jackson and re-sign [B]Rak, Kerrigan, Griffin, or Morris[/B].[/quote]
Do you mean "and" or "or"?

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[quote=mredskins;1066189]Do you mean "and" or "or"?[/quote]

We can afford them all:

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/57026-desean-jackson-meeting-with-redskins-monday-5.html#post1066004[/url]

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[quote=mredskins;1066189]Do you mean "and" or "or"?[/quote]

I'm with you. A front-loaded contract for DJax puts us in trouble for this year (we still have a starting FS and some other folks to sign, after all). A back-loaded contract puts us in trouble when it is time to sign the players you mentioned to a long-term deal.

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[quote=Schneed10;1066190]We can afford them all:

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/57026-desean-jackson-meeting-with-redskins-monday-5.html#post1066004[/url][/quote]


What makes you think RGIII would take a contract worth 15mil/year? If he's still here after they exercise their option, you would probably be looking in the 22-23 million range per year as compared to 15. He'd have to be pretty mediocre to take a 15mil/year.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1066188]As always Keim knocks it out of the park:
[url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nflnation&id=122847&src=desktop]NFL Handicapping the race for DeSean Jackson - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Ain't that the truth, looks like we are the best option decent amount of money strong armed QB.

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[quote=mredskins;1066189]Do you mean "and" or "or"?[/quote]

And, sorry.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1066192]What makes you think RGIII would take a contract worth 15mil/year? If he's still here after they exercise their option, you would probably be looking in the 22-23 million range per year as compared to 15. He'd have to be pretty mediocre to take a 15mil/year.[/quote]

Cap hit smart guy, not average annual value.

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[quote=Schneed10;1066195]Cap hit smart guy, not average annual value.[/quote]

That balloon cap hit is going to happen at some point. Kick the can eh?

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I voted yes, but I don't see us being his highest offer. He would be a great addition, but not a price that kills our cap space.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1066197]That balloon cap hit is going to happen at some point. Kick the can eh?[/quote]

Show me a single contract in the NFL that straight-lines the cap hit.

You're dismissed.

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I think they mostly brought him so he can give them a nice detailed scouting report on the eagles offensive. I'm also guessing he was only to happy to come in and give it.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1066172]We should have picked De Sean out of college but we were trying to get big receivers and picked Kelly and Thomas. Stupid way to pick players based on height. Look at the tape can they play football. Jackson is a football player. We have big receivers but they can't catch.[/quote]

I think it's been well-established by now that Vinny was an incompetent GM.

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[quote=Evilgrin;1066204]I think they mostly brought him so he can give them a nice detailed scouting report on the eagles offensive. I'm also guessing he was only to happy to come in and give it.[/quote]

Guess again. They want him.

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[quote=Schneed10;1065995]I laugh at this concept. That locker room cancer didn't infect the Eagles enough to prevent them from being NFC East Champs last season.

He'll relate to a guy like Hall pretty well. Will he be a great citizen and vocal leader? Probably not, but his on-field impact is too great.[/quote]

In just about every article about Jackson's release, one of the reasons cited is that he had a negative influence on the younger players. Sure, the Eagles won the NFC East last year, but perhaps Kelly's influence and leadership were able to overcome what Reid couldn't. If all the talk about Jackson's gang activity and negative influence is just a smokescreen to hide the real reason, money, then I would be in favor of signing him. But I'd be wary of adding a guy to our locker room if he would be a hindrance to the younger players.

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[quote=Evilgrin;1066204]I think they mostly brought him so he can give them a nice detailed scouting report on the eagles offensive. I'm also guessing he was only to happy to come in and give it.[/quote]

This alone is reason enough to pay that man.

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[quote=mredskins;1066168]I am guessing here but I would think there had been some preliminary discusion on salary prior to this meeting today. If the skins and JAckson were worlds apart $$$ wise probably would not bother meeting today.[/quote]

Whatta ya know, some good ol' common sense. Good post, mrredskins! Neither side is fooling around; they just might get a deal done.

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Ed Werder on Twitter is reporting 2 team with big interest with D Jax are in deep negotiations with him and his team. These 2 teams havent been made public. Anybody want to guess?

My guess is Pats and 49ers...neither have spoken publically about interest.

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I get it - he's 27 and coming off a career year.

I still don't get why we want to bust our cap to sign a headcase when we can just draft the next DJax at pick #34. This option is WAY cheaper and offers the possibility of not having a me-first cancer in the locker room.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/6569/handicapping-the-race-for-desean-jackson]Handicapping the race for DeSean Jackson - ESPN[/url]

Good break down by Keim. Of the three teams interested in him, Tampa has mild interest, Oakland and Buffalo have more money than us but we have more personnel pro's, including QB, than them. Plus he would get 2 chances /yr to stick it to Kelly with us. As long as we're not too off on price, I think we get him.

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[quote=Schneed10;1066202]Show me a single contract in the NFL that straight-lines the cap hit.

You're dismissed.[/quote]


[B]Smart ass[/B]- check.

[B]Petty[/B] - check.


More "management material" qualities I see. Quite the professional.

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[quote=SirLK26;1066209]In just about every article about Jackson's release, one of the reasons cited is that he had a negative influence on the younger players. Sure, the Eagles won the NFC East last year, but perhaps Kelly's influence and leadership were able to overcome what Reid couldn't. [B]If all the talk about Jackson's gang activity and negative influence is just a smokescreen to hide the real reason, money, then I would be in favor of signing him.[/B] But I'd be wary of adding a guy to our locker room if he would be a hindrance to the younger players.[/quote]

If his being cut ends up costing D-Jax a lot of money, I wouldn't be surprised to see him file a lawsuit over all of this unsubstantiated gang activity talk.

I grew up in the inner city. I knew gang members. How could I not know some of them? They lived in my neighborhood. We played together as young children. I went to school with some of them. I was friendly with some of them when we were teenagers. We went to some of the same parties. I sometimes went to clubs where they hung out. Where I lived, gangs were part of the landscape, like trees and grass.

But I wasn't a gang member and I was not involved in any of their illegal activities. Perhaps the same is true of D-Jax.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=SirLK26;1066209]In just about every article about Jackson's release, one of the reasons cited is that he had a negative influence on the younger players. Sure, the Eagles won the NFC East last year, but perhaps Kelly's influence and leadership were able to overcome what Reid couldn't. If all the talk about Jackson's gang activity and negative influence is [B]just a smokescreen to hide the real reason, money[/B], then I would be in favor of signing him. But I'd be wary of adding a guy to our locker room if he would be a hindrance to the younger players.[/quote]

I think the gang talk is a smokescreen but not for money. The Eagles took a huge dead-cap hit in releasing him (I read a dead-cap hit of about $8 mil.), so the Eagles did not release him for monetary issues.

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10 people voted for the vet min lmao

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[quote=Lotus;1066214]I get it - he's 27 and coming off a career year.

I still don't get why we want to bust our cap to sign a headcase when we can just draft the next DJax at pick #34. This option is WAY cheaper and offers the possibility of not having a me-first cancer in the locker room.[/quote]

Because at 34 we could also pick:
a) 3yr project like Hankerson
b) failures like DT and MK
c) a possible starting FS
d) a possible starting RT


and, we would have PR and our top 4 receivers set (Garcon, DJax, Roberts, Moss).

your way may be way cheaper, but DJax will produce for the next 3 years. You give him a contract that lets him out in 3 years with minimal cap hit, and makes him happy this year and next. You figure the money, plus vendetta against the Eagles will keep him content at least 2 years. By then maybe his maturity catches up with his talent, maybe not. But DHall certainly shows it can happen.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1066224]10 people voted for the vet min lmao[/quote]

there is no option like "if the FO vets him properly and he accepts a reasonable contract".

credskinsrule did a good post a few pages back ... if the FO does their job the right way and the money is acceptable, then yes i would be for it at this point.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1066225]Because at 34 we could also pick:
a) 3yr project like Hankerson
b) failures like DT and MK
c) a possible starting FS
d) a possible starting RT


and, we would have PR and our top 4 receivers set (Garcon, DJax, Roberts, Moss).

your way may be way cheaper, but DJax will produce for the next 3 years. You give him a contract that lets him out in 3 years with minimal cap hit, and makes him happy this year and next. You figure the money, plus vendetta against the Eagles will keep him content at least 2 years. By then maybe his maturity catches up with his talent, maybe not. But DHall certainly shows it can happen.[/quote]


If or when we sign him, I think by season's end Robinson or Hank puts himself in as the 4th WR, (More Robinson than Hankerson)

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I think everyone should vote yes, simply because GiantOne voted No.
[B]Smartass[/B]: check
[B]Petty[/B]: check

[B]The fear in our division rivals eyes[/B]: priceless

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1066228]If or when we sign him, I think by season's end Robinson or Hank puts himself in as the 4th WR, (More Robinson than Hankerson)[/quote]

I think Hank and Aldrick Robinson are gone if we sign DJax. We would pick up a WR like either of them in the 4th, 5th or 6th round, and hope we get a guy in a year or two that will step up when/if we have to let DJax go.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1066231]I think Hank and Aldrick Robinson are gone if we sign DJax. We would pick up a WR like either of them in the 4th, 5th or 6th round, and hope we get a guy in a year or two that will step up when/if we have to let DJax go.[/quote]

True

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BA knows what he is doing when it comes to the cap, I have faith in that.
As far as DJ fitting in here..... Who knows, we have all seen where troublemakers continue to be troublemakers and have seen the likes of TO be a model team player in Buffalo and Cincinnati.

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we're going to keep 5-6 WRs regardless, so i don't think getting DJax means robinson or hankerson go. they'd be #5 and #6. it's not like they cost us anything.

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Guys, I have a problem. I keep checking back here obsessively in hopes I see someone say we either signed DJ or he left Redskins Park. Blaahhhhh.

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[quote=That Guy;1066245]we're going to keep 5-6 WRs regardless, so i don't think getting DJax means robinson or hankerson go. they'd be #5 and #6. it's not like they cost us anything.[/quote]

Hankerson is over the 51 point, so he would save a miniscule amount, and neither he or Robinson, imo, have done anything that deserves a roster spot if our top 3 for the next 2 years are Garcon, DJax, and Roberts. Let spots 5 and 6 go to mid-late round draft choices in a deep WR draft and see if they can progress.

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an OMG from the TMZ:

[url=http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/31/desean-jackson-robert-griffin-iii-rg3-redskins-meeting-los-angeles/]DeSean Jackson -- Met With RG3 In L.A. ... BEFORE Meeting with Redskins In D.C. | TMZ.com[/url]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1066247]Guys, I have a problem. I keep checking back here obsessively in hopes I see someone say we either signed DJ or he left Redskins Park. Blaahhhhh.[/quote]

Twitter search saying he's on a plane headed to DC now.

Also says he met with RG prior to today? News to me.

edit: ^ :)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1066252]an OMG from the TMZ:

[url=http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/31/desean-jackson-robert-griffin-iii-rg3-redskins-meeting-los-angeles/]DeSean Jackson -- Met With RG3 In L.A. ... BEFORE Meeting with Redskins In D.C. | TMZ.com[/url][/quote]

Sounds to me like he really wants to be here...