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[QUOTE=SirLK26;1076854]Sounds like Ryan Grant impressed again today. Give this guy a few more years to add strength and he could be a really good receiver.[/QUOTE]


Sounds like he's had a good camp so far. Runs good routes.

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[quote=Mattyk;1076855]Sounds like he's had a good camp so far. Runs good routes.[/quote]

How many WRs will they keep ? and who will they be ?

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[quote=Mattyk;1076855]Sounds like he's had a good camp so far. Runs good routes.[/quote]

He was the most consistent wr I saw at practice last week.

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1076858]How many WRs will they keep ? and who will they be ?[/QUOTE]
5 Garcon, Djax, Roberts, Grant, robinson

Maybe 6 with Moss but I think they use the spot elsewhere

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From Tuesday's practice, the report from the Boston Globe reporter. It's always good to get some views different than the local guys who see the team everyday and the national guys (not counting those who came to camp) who just sit on TV and talk in generalities.

[url=http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/08/05/patriots-practice-report/tctd1v5uKN4uKXSCDqLFaO/story.html]Patriots practice report - Sports - The Boston Globe[/url]

Mixed bag but pretty much what should be expected. Doesn't sound like we are on their level but didn't embarrass ourselves either. So ready for games to start.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1076852]Sounds realistic to me. But to me Griffin doesn't need to be great. With weapons like Reed and DJax all he has to do is be smart and distribute the ball, and a healthy dose of AlfMo.[/QUOTE]


He really doesn't have to be great, but he might not really want to hear that. Granted this is a very small issue right now, I just don't like to see the coach and QB on a different page.

Apparently Gruden would like to see RG throw the ball away more often in practice, instead of scrambling. However RG took the Iverson approach and said he'll throw it away in games, but it's just practice, and he'd rather practice his scrambling drill. Like I said, still not a huge issue, but I'd really like to see and hear my 3rd year QB more open to what his head coach has to say.

[url]http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-and-rg3-talk-decision-making-when-throw-ball-away[/url]

Also mentioned it in the Boston Globe article linked in the post above:

■ RG3 did OK in the hurry-up offense, but refused to throw the ball away, which will be interesting to watch with him this year. He had a few nice scrambles to the outside and made some nice improvisational plays. He loves looking to Reed in the Red Zone.

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Clark and Garcon are gimpy.
:(

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/44008/Ryan-Clark-and-Pierre-Garcon-sidelined-by-hamstring-issues/Default.aspx]Ryan Clark and Pierre Garcon sidelined by hamstring issues[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1076892]Clark and Garcon are gimpy.
:(

[URL="http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/44008/Ryan-Clark-and-Pierre-Garcon-sidelined-by-hamstring-issues/Default.aspx"]Ryan Clark and Pierre Garcon sidelined by hamstring issues[/URL][/quote]

I'm sure they'll be OK by the start of the season.

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Sounds like DJax may have sprained his left ankle.

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The injury bug comes every year to every team. All sound minor.

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listening to chris russell driving in to work this morning.

man that guy is bad.

listened to him go on for 15 mins about how he was the only one saying the d jax signing was bad bc he is small and relies on speed and tends to get injured which takes away his speed element.

the clincher for me turning the dial was when he said "i know a lot of redskins fans think he is going to be great a addition but i just dont see it working out that way .... given my track record and perspective, im right everytime"

turned the dial, came back 15 mins later and he was still repeating his opinion of desean ad nauseum, saying he is just giving an honest and realistic opinion that is based on logic and reason ....

to declare his contrarian opinion has been proven correct before desean has even taken a snap is unreal.

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[quote=over the mountain;1076909]listening to chris russell driving in to work this morning.

man that guy is bad.

listened to him go on for 15 mins about how he was the only one saying the d jax signing was bad bc he is small and relies on speed and tends to get injured which takes away his speed element.

the clincher for me turning the dial was when he said "i know a lot of redskins fans think he is going to be great a addition but i just dont see it working out that way .... given my track record and perspective, im right everytime"

turned the dial, came back 15 mins later and he was still repeating his opinion of desean ad nauseum, saying he is just giving an honest and realistic opinion that is based on logic and reason ....

to declare his contrarian opinion has been proven correct before desean has even taken a snap is unreal.[/quote]

Sounds like some peeps round here

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tbh, if i played GM i did want the 10 mil to be spent on a Safety and RT bc we already had a lot of cap wrapped in WR and we signed roberts for speed but even i wouldnt declare my opinion right this early on.

he rubbed me the wrong way. ill text him about it.

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[quote=over the mountain;1076912]tbh, if i played GM i did want the 10 mil to be spent on a Safety and RT bc we already had a lot of cap wrapped in WR and we signed roberts for speed but even i wouldnt declare my opinion right this early on.

he rubbed me the wrong way. ill text him about it.[/quote]

I think we all wanted a safety, be it Ward, Byrd, Mitchell, etc. but we had just drafted Thomas and Rambo and Gruden probably didnt wanna give up on them. Also, it isn't like we gave DeSean Mike Wallace money. I say the 3 year deal with an option for a 4th was a great deal. Plus, like the Panthers showed, if you get to the QB doesn't matter who your safeties are for the most part.

If Orakpo, Kerrigan, Hatcher, Murphy, and Cofield can get to the QB on a consistent basis, our secondary will get a lot of opportunities to make plays.

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To Chris Russell regarding DeSean Jackson: You don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1076892]Clark and Garcon are gimpy.
:(

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/44008/Ryan-Clark-and-Pierre-Garcon-sidelined-by-hamstring-issues/Default.aspx]Ryan Clark and Pierre Garcon sidelined by hamstring issues[/url][/quote]

Phillip Thomas too. That hamstring has been a problem for at least a week now.

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[quote=over the mountain;1076909]listening to chris russell driving in to work this morning.

man that guy is bad.

listened to him go on for 15 mins about how he was the only one saying the d jax signing was bad bc he is small and relies on speed and tends to get injured which takes away his speed element.

the clincher for me turning the dial was when he said "i know a lot of redskins fans think he is going to be great a addition but i just dont see it working out that way .... given my track record and perspective, im right everytime"

turned the dial, came back 15 mins later and he was still repeating his opinion of desean ad nauseum, saying he is just giving an honest and realistic opinion that is based on logic and reason ....

to declare his contrarian opinion has been proven correct before desean has even taken a snap is unreal.[/quote]

Of course if the patriots would have signed him, Russell and the media would be talking about a pats Super Bowl move and how this was the steal of the offseason. But because the skins signed dumbasses 10 years ago this somehow is related to these ignorant opinions.

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Went to camp this morning, the guys were going kinda light because of the game tomorrow and the long practice yesterday. Still class a experience, got some
Great picks, we got some hot ass chicks for fans, and Brady is a tall lanky douche.

If you have kids, camp is perfect experience for them and your family. Skins go above and beyond for the children which gets overlooked.

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Tom Brady is a douche because he's tall and not fat?

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[quote=over the mountain;1076909]listening to chris russell driving in to work this morning.

man that guy is bad.

[B]listened to him go on for 15 mins about how he was the only one saying the d jax signing was bad bc he is small and relies on speed and tends to get injured which takes away his speed element. [/B]

the clincher for me turning the dial was when he said "i know a lot of redskins fans think he is going to be great a addition but i just dont see it working out that way .... given my track record and perspective, im right everytime"

turned the dial, came back 15 mins later and he was still repeating his opinion of desean ad nauseum, saying he is just giving an honest and realistic opinion that is based on logic and reason ....

to declare his contrarian opinion has been proven correct before desean has even taken a snap is unreal.[/quote]

I opposed the DJax signing but not for those lame reasons. DJax was small and relied on speed in Philly but still had 80 catches a year.

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[quote=Chico23231;1076924]Of course if the patriots would have signed him, Russell and the media would be talking about a pats Super Bowl move and how this was the steal of the offseason. But because the skins signed dumbasses 10 years ago this somehow is related to these ignorant opinions.[/quote]

Just looking at his numbers, how well he fits with the other pieces we have, and the fact that the Skins got him at a bargain price without giving up any players or picks are enough reasons for most people to conclude that the Skins made a good decision to sign him. Even if he doesn't succeed here for some reason, that won't necessarily mean that the decision to sign him was a bad one.

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[quote=Lotus;1076933]I opposed the DJax signing but not for those lame reasons. DJax was small and relied on speed in Philly but still had 80 catches a year.[/quote]

Santana Moss has done that for 13 years now.

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Speaking of media types, here's yet another reason for Redskins fans to dislike Mike Wise:

"But, really, shouldn’t there be two or three standard answers when anyone from an NFL team in Washington is asked what they hope to get out of spending time with one from New England?

'Autographs.'

'Selfies with Bill and Tom.'

'The Patriots’ blessing.'

Take a knee, children. Gather at the foot of the masters. This is what a perennially contending, multiple Super Bowl winner looks like. This is how to run an organization."

I would like Mike Wise to take a knee and stop writing drivel about the Skins.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1076942]Speaking of media types, here's yet another reason for Redskins fans to dislike Mike Wise:

"But, really, shouldn’t there be two or three standard answers when anyone from an NFL team in Washington is asked what they hope to get out of spending time with one from New England?

'Autographs.'

'Selfies with Bill and Tom.'

'The Patriots’ blessing.'

Take a knee, children. Gather at the foot of the masters. This is what a perennially contending, multiple Super Bowl winner looks like. This is how to run an organization."

I would like Mike Wise to take a knee and stop writing drivel about the Skins.[/quote]

if Mike Wise wants to blow hoody and kraft let'm. I could care less.

He doesnt seem like the type who can sit back and just enjoy the competitive nature of the scrimage and get the chance to be up close with the team you pull for on Sunday. Just seems like a miserable person.

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[url=http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/grant-ryan-1_brj2nd/37211]SnappyTV - 1-on-1: WR Ryan Grant vs. DB Justin Green created by hollebonr[/url]

Ryan grant burnin a pat in practice. (Video)

Hope he makes this team.

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[quote=Meks;1076951][url=http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/grant-ryan-1_brj2nd/37211]SnappyTV - 1-on-1: WR Ryan Grant vs. DB Justin Green created by hollebonr[/url]

Ryan grant burnin a pat in practice. (Video)

Hope he makes this team.[/quote]

He sounds pretty close to a lock at this point, doubt they would want to risk putting him on the PS.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1076942]Speaking of media types, here's yet another reason for Redskins fans to dislike Mike Wise:

"But, really, shouldn’t there be two or three standard answers when anyone from an NFL team in Washington is asked what they hope to get out of spending time with one from New England?

'Autographs.'

'Selfies with Bill and Tom.'

'The Patriots’ blessing.'

Take a knee, children. Gather at the foot of the masters. This is what a perennially contending, multiple Super Bowl winner looks like. This is how to run an organization."

I would like Mike Wise to take a knee and stop writing drivel about the Skins.[/quote]


He would if you all would stop reading his shit. More clicks to his garbage means more garbage he's going to put out. Simple supply and demand and you all are creating the demand.

TL: DR- stop clicking

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[quote=over the mountain;1076909]listening to chris russell driving in to work this morning.

man that guy is bad.

[B]listened to him go on for 15 mins about how he was the only one saying the d jax signing was bad bc he is small and relies on speed and tends to get injured which takes away his speed element.
[/B]
the clincher for me turning the dial was when he said "i know a lot of redskins fans think he is going to be great a addition but i just dont see it working out that way .... given my track record and perspective, im right everytime"

turned the dial, came back 15 mins later and he was still repeating his opinion of desean ad nauseum, saying he is just giving an honest and realistic opinion that is based on logic and reason ....

to declare his contrarian opinion has been proven correct before desean has even taken a snap is unreal.[/quote]

To me it's a good move because we didn't give up any draft picks, it serves a need and we take away one of the Eagles best players. Had this been a few years ago, the Redskins would've given up picks and given out a bad contract.

There's chance that this blows up in their faces as Jackson will bitch when he doesn't get the ball, or if Griffin struggles. It will be interesting to be how this plays out. I believe there will be some bumps along the way.

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[quote=Meks;1076951][url=http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/grant-ryan-1_brj2nd/37211]SnappyTV - 1-on-1: WR Ryan Grant vs. DB Justin Green created by hollebonr[/url]

Ryan grant burnin a pat in practice. (Video)

Hope he makes this team.[/quote]

With DJax and Garcon out, we should get to see Grant for an extended amount tomorrow. Excited about that.

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[quote=Meks;1076951][URL="http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/grant-ryan-1_brj2nd/37211"]SnappyTV - 1-on-1: WR Ryan Grant vs. DB Justin Green created by hollebonr[/URL]

Ryan grant burnin a pat in practice. (Video)

Hope he makes this team.[/quote]

He broke that dudes ankles. I've heard Gruden talk about this kid since OTA's, how well he runs his routes.

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/08/06/gruden-kory-lichtensteiger-a-pleasant-surprise-at-center/]Gruden: Kory Lichtensteiger a pleasant surprise at center[/url]

Well, this is good to hear. Now he just needs to translate it to the games.

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[quote=mlmdub130;1076869]He really doesn't have to be great, but he might not really want to hear that. Granted this is a very small issue right now, I just don't like to see the coach and QB on a different page.

Apparently Gruden would like to see RG throw the ball away more often in practice, instead of scrambling. However RG took the Iverson approach and said he'll throw it away in games, but it's just practice, and he'd rather practice his scrambling drill. Like I said, still not a huge issue, but I'd really like to see and hear my 3rd year QB more open to what his head coach has to say.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-and-rg3-talk-decision-making-when-throw-ball-away]Gruden and RG3 talk decision making, when to throw ball away | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

Also mentioned it in the Boston Globe article linked in the post above:

■ RG3 did OK in the hurry-up offense, but refused to throw the ball away, which will be interesting to watch with him this year. He had a few nice scrambles to the outside and made some nice improvisational plays. He loves looking to Reed in the Red Zone.[/quote]

This might put at ease:

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2014/8/5/5971479/the-redskins-were-not-dominated-in-scrimmage-with-patriots]The Redskins were not "dominated" in scrimmage with Patriots - Hogs Haven[/url]

Brady was doing the same thing continuing with the play even though he would of been sacked several times.

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Listening to Pat Kerwin today who was there....I think. His eval was RG isn't there yet but has all the tools and will get there. Great attitude, skill sets, must be more accurate pocket passer...etc. O receiving corps will be potent. Morris more so, so plenty of top quality targets for Robert. D line and linebackers will get it done. D backfield suspect and have much to prove and Tom apparently picked them apart on a 2 minute drill. In his estimation, it may be the best thing that could have happened as a check and learning tool.....

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[QUOTE=NYCskinfan82;1076973]This might put at ease:

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2014/8/5/5971479/the-redskins-were-not-dominated-in-scrimmage-with-patriots]The Redskins were not "dominated" in scrimmage with Patriots - Hogs Haven[/url]

Brady was doing the same thing continuing with the play even though he would of been sacked several times.[/QUOTE]

Brady was continuing the play by looking down field and completing passes. A little different than continuing the play by using your legs, even though you aren't really supposed to be doing it, and the coach asked you to stop.

Like I said, very very small issue at this point, hopefully this is the last we hear of it.

The other thing the article points out was how the Pats are a completely different organization that has a winning tradition, and a proven system. And how they were running sprints while our guys were walking off the field.

I was there in Tues and mid practice the same kind of thing happened. It was about mid way through and the teams split to their separate fields. The Pats got together and started running 11 v 11 on both sides of the field, with helmets on. While on the other practice field every single redskin helmet was on the 50 in a neat row and all the players were scattered in position groups kind of half as walkin through some drills and talking.

Again not that it's the end of the world, but it really shows you just how far apart these two teams are as a franchise. Hopefully it gave our guys a good look at something to work for.

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[quote=mlmdub130;1077010]Brady was continuing the play by looking down field and completing passes. A little different than continuing the play by using your legs, even though you aren't really supposed to be doing it, and the coach asked you to stop.

Like I said, very very small issue at this point, hopefully this is the last we hear of it.

The other thing the article points out was how the Pats are a completely different organization that has a winning tradition, and a proven system. And how they were running sprints while our guys were walking off the field.

I was there in Tues and mid practice the same kind of thing happened. It was about mid way through and the teams split to their separate fields. The Pats got together and started running 11 v 11 on both sides of the field, with helmets on. While on the other practice field every single redskin helmet was on the 50 in a neat row and all the players were scattered in position groups kind of half as walkin through some drills and talking.

Again not that it's the end of the world, but it really shows you just how far apart these two teams are as a franchise. Hopefully it gave our guys a good look at something to work for.[/quote]

Cousins reminds me of Brady, maybe we should start him?

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I saw that RG report. thing is.. Griffin is just not a pure pocket passer. everyone has to get over that. Better descision making will be evident when JJ Watt is rushing at him week one IMO hell be fine. A lot of people practice different than they play. It gives you a better meter to judge how close you can cut it and when you should have thrown away. I understand that mindset easily.

my question for the day is... DJax... the ankle. he needs time with RG I don't like this.

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I like that we play Watt, Clowney, Cushing. and a solid rushing front 8 week one. gonna give us a great idea of what were gonna see all year.

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If DJax just got cleated he should play, but if he turned that ankle at all I understand being cautious.

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yea i hope its something light and he gets back out there. eagle fans already are snickering. i want this to work bad.

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I would love to see DJax play, but on the other hand, I am all for our WR depth getting more playing time now. Especially, Grant and Robinson, just to see if Grant is real, and if Robinson learned anything. Even without Garcon and Djax, Griffin should be throwing to Roberts, Moss, Grant, and Reed for the series that the starters are in. We should be able to see some "shining moments".

I imagine Morris will get a few touches too.