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The big negative all kidding aside with the fantasy football, is that we just might end up at square one for a qb in the near future. Cousins was outed and RGIII, while definitely the man, is one more nasty injury away from being a liability with not much trade value. Do you put him in there once he is cleared and risk his career, or do we just ride out the disaster in the making? Right now I say ride it out and keep Robert on the bench. It will give him time to properly heal up and give him more time to learn what he needs to learn to work within the system. Thing is even if that is how it goes, will RG III ever be able to change?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1086987]He hasn't changed a bit since he entered college basically. Why do we think it's going to be fixed now?[/quote]

So, you're saying he's playing at a high school level? If that's the case...

Throw in Colt?

I find it hard to believe that he hasn't improved at all.. Guy has a bad game, and everyone becomes a KC scout overnight.

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Coming out of college he was "pro ready" according to many scouts. Sometimes that's another way of saying "he is who he is"

He's not as bad as we saw on Thursday, but I just have not seen in the past 5 years or whatever anything that tells me he will significantly up his game to another level. I think he can be a solid long term NFL QB, but in my opinion (and there are always outlier games) the best we've seen of him to this point is the best we will see of him.

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The criticiasm regarding Kirk, comes down to this, the difference makers, the truly elite players, overcome the deficiences of the rest of the team and still find a way to win. This franchise has operated under the quick fix mentality, which is why, we have the results that we have, like at least, one at home denning by an NFC East rival. The quick fix was Griffin in 2012 while his body held, clearly, it has not worked. Whether it scheme, the novelty of Griffen's speed preinjury, it worked for 2012. Kirk has some good games, and does certain things well, however, he has not been a diifference maker, or a guy who can carry the whole team on his back. For one brief season, Griffin could, it remains to be seen, if he can do it again.

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[quote=Lotus;1086940]I wasn't disagreeing with your assertion of bottle color. Of course light harms beer, so a darker bottle is better.

I obviously was disagreeing with your factually incorrect account of "unpasteurized" beer going bad after 30 days.[/quote]


Didn't say go bad but the expiration date (sell by,fresh date ) is as I said around 30 days on many of the non pasteurized beers and ales ,if kept in dark and cool areas maybe longer but not much .



This should help everyone ...,including me .


[url=http://www.tastings.com/beer/perishable.html]Beer is a Perishable Product[/url]

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By the way,don't we have two spots open on the practice squad? Given how much help we need at D line, TE, etc., isn't it crazy that we haven't filled those spots and aren't trying hard to get guys in tune with our system?

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If Griffin can't stay healthy, we will back up at the top of the draft gambling for a QB again.

Its totally different going into a game with a team prepared for you, esp if that team has a decent secondary.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/11423/redskins-failed-with-technique?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]Washington Redskins failed with technique - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

Shit technique from a shit defensive coach. Hey.....who'd thunk it?




[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1086929]I remember but that guy is just so inconsistent man, I just feel that 11 million dollars could have gotten 2 or more defenders that would have the same impact as him, and I hope we dont offer him a contract, [/quote]


I have a feeling we can thank Danny boy for bringing back Rakpo. He falls in love with players and this leads to shit decisions like bringing him back. A few of the insiders alluded to Dan making this call. The good news is, I seriously doubt they'll be offering him jack shit this off-season except a ride to the airport.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1087067][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/11423/redskins-failed-with-technique?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]Washington Redskins failed with technique - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

Shit technique from a shit defensive coach. Hey.....who'd thunk it?







I have a feeling we can thank Danny boy for bringing back Rakpo. He falls in love with players and this leads to shit decisions like bringing him back. A few of the insiders alluded to Dan making this call. [B]The good news is, I seriously doubt they'll be offering him jack shit this off-season except a ride to the airport[/B].[/quote]


I wouldnt even offer him that, he has 11 million dollars, he can afford his own ticket and ride.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1086905]Our QB just had 4 INTs and 1 fumble in one game. Our defense gave up a shit ton of points for the 2nd consecutive week while providing no real pressure. Our special teams is still shit. As a team we had 6 fucking turnovers. We now face two of the harder teams in the NFL the upcoming weeks with a possibility of starting out 1-5............and yet....



......here we are here discussing the god damn concession booth and whether the beer it's selling is fresh. :Flush: :laughing-[/QUOTE]


I think that is because the Skins being in trouble is old and the beer is fresh. Except the beer isnt fresh. This is all very bad.

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I bet the pats could get a 2nd round pick for Brady after tonight.

Bad games happen.

I'm more concerned with defensive play than Captain K.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1087067][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/11423/redskins-failed-with-technique?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]Washington Redskins failed with technique - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

Shit technique from a shit defensive coach. Hey.....who'd thunk it?







I have a feeling we can thank Danny boy for bringing back Rakpo. He falls in love with players and this leads to shit decisions like bringing him back. A few of the insiders alluded to Dan making this call. The good news is, I seriously doubt they'll be offering him jack shit this off-season except a ride to the airport.[/quote]

What insider said that?

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This team doesn't have a prayer if they have to score 40+ points to win.

KC didn't look very good but we all know that when you are playing from behind the opponent knows you have to pass a lot and defending gets a whole lot easier. I think a lot of KC's problems had to do with him trying to do too much to get a comeback going. The D stunk last year and its even worst this year.

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[quote=irish;1087112]This team doesn't have a prayer if they have to score 40+ points to win.

KC didn't look very good but we all know that when you are playing from behind the opponent knows you have to pass a lot and defending gets a whole lot easier. I think a lot of KC's problems had to do with him trying to do too much to get a comeback going. The D stunk last year and its even worst this year.[/quote]Yeah, smh against the eagles, when late in the game, after the o had put up 30+ and the d had given up 30++, the d makes a stop, at least one poster here says that the d has redeemed itself, and many posters blame the o when they get stopped. nevermind what happened the rest of the game, it's the o's fault.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1087111]What insider said that?[/quote]

I"m sure LL/HTTR-24/7 and Jsteelze.......mentioned something along those lines back when they tagged him.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1087118]I"m sure LL/HTTR-24/7 and Jsteelze.......mentioned something along those lines back when they tagged him.[/quote]

Hmm. I've never heard that Snyder gives two shits about Orakpo

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[quote=SmootSmack;1087120]Hmm. I've never heard that Snyder gives two shits about Orakpo[/quote]

He may not and maybe they were reading in between the lines. Not sure.

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the Giants beat us. the Eagles beat us. the Cowboys are 3-1. who is the joke of the division so far?

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[quote=HailGreen28;1087138]the Giants beat us. the Eagles beat us. the Cowboys are 3-1. who is the joke of the division so far?[/quote]

Huh?

:saywhat:

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[quote=Ruhskins;1087143]Huh?

:saywhat:[/quote]

I think he's saying we are the joke of the division. Well, so far he's right. That may change at any given moment though.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1087145]I think he's saying we are the joke of the division. Well, so far he's right. That may change at any given moment though.[/quote]

The NFL seems like a roller coaster this season. I would have hope for our team, but with so many people injured, I just don't know how we can compete. Yes, it could change, but I wouldn't call us a joke.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1087120]Hmm. I've never heard that Snyder gives two shits about Orakpo[/quote]
Well let's see......I'm a fan.......It's negative........And I got this..feelin
My book, that put's it at Snyders feet, right?

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We'd be better off if his 11 million cap hit was spent on secondary players.

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Yeah, so far Rak's big contract year is rather underwhelming.

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[QUOTE=Lotus;1087154]Yeah, so far Rak's big contract year is rather underwhelming.[/QUOTE]


You're too nice. He's earned a big fat F so far.

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i was tempted to start a "quarter mark report card" thread and post every players stat line .... but thankfully i have been too busy to obsess over my beloved but often troubled skins so far this season.

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[QUOTE=Lotus;1087154]Yeah, so far Rak's big contract year is rather underwhelming.[/QUOTE]


Atleast he is consistent.

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[quote=punch it in;1087159]Atleast he is consistent.[/quote]

lol.

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[quote=Mattyk;1087155]You're too nice. He's earned a big fat F so far.[/quote]

At least we can avoid the "is he only having a great year because it's a contract year" discussion this time around.

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[url]https://twitter.com/nick_mathews/status/517016006817239040[/url]

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[quote=mooby;1087161]At least we can avoid the "is he only having a great year because it's a contract year" discussion this time around.[/quote]

there are 12 more games to evaluate rak .. but yes, at least we can avoid that uncertainty heading into a decision making offseason.

i hoped he would prove to be a defensive force and worth good money, but having him prove he is not a defensive force and worth only decent money is the next best result for us imo.

at seasons end, i want to have a clear and definitive picture on several players. rak is no. 1 on the list.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1087165]there are 12 more games to evaluate rak .. but yes, at least we can avoid that uncertainty heading into a decision making offseason.



i hoped he would prove to be a defensive force and worth good money, but having him prove he is not a defensive force and worth only decent money is the next best result for us imo.



at seasons end, i want to have a clear and definitive picture on several players. rak is no. 1 on the list.[/QUOTE]


Polumbus is number two. Not number two on the list ....just ...number two.

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BTW, even though we just got whacked by the Giants, we STILL have the #4 offense and the #8 defense in the NFL: [url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/team]NFL Stats: Team[/url]

Crazy. Stats, of course, only tell you so much.

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[QUOTE=calia;1087170]BTW, even though we just got whacked by the Giants, we STILL have the #4 offense and the #8 defense in the NFL: [url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/team]NFL Stats: Team[/url]



Crazy. Stats, of course, only tell you so much.[/QUOTE]


...and in this case tell us absolutely nothing. If our offense or defense finishes the year in the top 20 I will be amazed. I was excited about the offense going into the year, but it was always with the QB and right side of the line somewhere in the back of my mind. Now they are front and center in my mind.

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I actually think our offense should finish in the top 20 -- maybe even top 10. We still have very good skills players, and with the exception of SF, Seattle, and AZ (3 of 12 remaining games), none of the other defenses we face are particularly good.

Our defense, on the other hand, started strong (against crap offenses), but without any real depth, the injuries are pretty harmful. We also have some folks consistently underperforming (Orakpo, Riley, and Merriweather, I am talking to you). If Hatcher can get healthy it helps a lot. And if Cofield can come back and perform well, that does too. I think Robinson has performed very well -- it's been a good surprise, and let's hope he stays healthy. Our secondary will be a mess -- not much positive to see there, although I am hoping the young guys (Amerson and Breeland, in particular, can show some growth by season's end). Our safety situation is just not good. Clark has leadership and is a solid tackler, but doesn't represent a threat to the passing game. When the D line isn' dinged up, the back of the D gets exposed even worse.

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Well the O didnt look that good against the Giants. Hell Drew Stanton and the Cardinals put up more points than we did, and that was an away game for them. We will see though....

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[quote=punch it in;1087173][B]Well the O didnt look that good against the Giants[/B]. Hell Drew Stanton and the Cardinals put up more points than we did, and that was an away game for them. We will see though....[/quote]

6 turnovers will do that to you -- that won't happen every week.

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As if we needed another reason to hate the FCC, here goes ISP's favorite shill [URL="http://preview.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/fcc-mulls-banning-redskins-name/ar-BB6C7vq"]talking about banning networks from using Redskins on the air.[/URL]

Given that Wheeler already disapproves of the name, how long until networks are banned from using Redskins on the air?

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i was just gonna post that.

at this point, and i know i am caving, but i just want the Skins to move on. of course i want them to start winning consistently also, so you know how much what i want matters

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[quote=calia;1087172]I actually think our offense should finish in the top 20 -- maybe even top 10. We still have very good skills players, and with the exception of SF, Seattle, and AZ (3 of 12 remaining games), none of the other defenses we face are particularly good.

Our defense, on the other hand, started strong (against crap offenses), but without any real depth, the injuries are pretty harmful. We also have some folks consistently underperforming (Orakpo, Riley, and Merriweather, I am talking to you). If Hatcher can get healthy it helps a lot. And if Cofield can come back and perform well, that does too. I think Robinson has performed very well -- it's been a good surprise, and let's hope he stays healthy. Our secondary will be a mess -- not much positive to see there, although I am hoping the young guys (Amerson and Breeland, in particular, can show some growth by season's end). Our safety situation is just not good. Clark has leadership and is a solid tackler, but doesn't represent a threat to the passing game. When the D line isn' dinged up, the back of the D gets exposed even worse.[/quote]

It is still early but Dallass' defense has been much improved.