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[quote=donofriose;1106805]1st one I would say they needed an Eli Manning type of QB. One who just needs to be clutch. I'll give you the first one that they didn't need elite play for that super bowl. They still needed a clutch QB but not an elite QB

Second one is definitely not true. They almost gave up 400 yards of offense and kept giving up big play after big play. They needed 32 points to win the game. Tom Brady had to throw the ball almost 50 times for 350 yards and 3 touchdowns.[/quote]

You are correct. Maybe it was one of the other games leading up to the SB I was thinking about where he played like dog shit. I just know he's had some bad games and still got wins. I find it interesting looking at past and current QB ratings for the post-season.

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career_playoffs.htm]NFL Career Playoffs Passer Rating Leaders | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1106831]I do find it funny the Pats were seconds away from losing this game, probably should have lost, then a miracle play happens and all of a sudden everyone is gushing about Brady as if he picked off the pass. He played a great game don't get me wrong, but the game was out of his hands at that point. We could very easily be sitting here talking about his 3rd straight SB loss.[/QUOTE]


What about the fact that if not for a "miracle play " going in seattles favor than Brady drives down the field against a superb defense on the biggest stage to win his fourth superbowl? If you are going to bring up the INT than bring up the catch as well that put them down there at the goalline to begin with.
Brady deserves gushing. No shame in it. Dudes a rock star. People hate him. Oh well. Their run game did not exist. He picked apart what some consider one of the best pass d's of all time on the biggest stage. If gushing at that is wrong than i dont wanna be rite.
Edit: that catch by Seattle was a miracle. Ball bounced around in miraculous fashion. The INT was a freakin great read and play not a miracle at all as a matter of fact.

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[quote=Mattyk;1106831]I do find it funny the Pats were seconds away from losing this game, probably should have lost, then a miracle play happens and all of a sudden everyone is gushing about Brady as if he picked off the pass. He played a great game don't get me wrong, but the game was out of his hands at that point. We could very easily be sitting here talking about his 3rd straight SB loss.[/quote]

It wouldn't have mattered if he'd won or lost. How many QB get to 6 SB's? None.

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There's so much more to these games than who's under center.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1106836]There's so much more to these games than who's under center.[/QUOTE]


Nobody is doubting that. People or i should say a person is doubting that a who was under center for the Pats had little to do with it. It was giftwrapped for him? 37-50 for 300+ and 4 TD's - 57 rushing yards - no run support at all basically ! Against that secondary? To say that is giftwrapped for Brady is just nonsense. He was the MVP and he deserved it 110%!

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[quote=punch it in;1106834]What about the fact that if not for a "miracle play " going in seattles favor than Brady drives down the field against a superb defense on the biggest stage to win his fourth superbowl? If you are going to bring up the INT than bring up the catch as well that put them down there at the goalline to begin with.
Brady deserves gushing. No shame in it. Dudes a rock star. People hate him. Oh well. [B]Their run game did not exist[/B]. He picked apart what some consider one of the best pass d's of all time on the biggest stage. If gushing at that is wrong than i dont wanna be rite.
Edit: that catch by Seattle was a miracle. Ball bounced around in miraculous fashion. The INT was a freakin great read and play not a miracle at all as a matter of fact.[/quote]

To me that's what gets overlooked. He's proven it over and over that he can carry the offense w/out any kind of run game... against a great defense. How many QB's in the NFL can do that? Not very many.

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quinn had no answer for the Pats scheme of clearing out space, isolating sherman and using vereen/edelman to leak out of the back and into the previously cleared out open area.

really surprised they seahawks stayed in that soft shell D.

it wasnt like the Pats were trying new stuff. it was the same offensive play calling as the ravens and colts.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1106838]To me that's what gets overlooked. He's proven it over and over that he can carry the offense w/out any kind of run game... against a great defense. How many QB's in the NFL can do that? Not very many.[/quote]

a good bit of talking heads are saying the pats short pass timing offense is like a run game - control clock and take 3-7 yards at a time.

seems like straight west coast offense to me, just run at a much more efficient level.

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[quote=punch it in;1106837]Nobody is doubting that. People or i should say a person is doubting that a who was under center for the Pats had little to do with it. It was giftwrapped for him? 37-50 for 300+ and 4 TD's - 57 rushing yards - no run support at all basically ! Against that secondary? To say that is giftwrapped for Brady is just nonsense. He was the MVP and he deserved it 110%![/quote]

Ignore the nonsense. Brady is great no doubt. Shame though that 95% of the conversation today is focused on him though.

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Gotta say Seattle has no class.

That Doug Baldwin celebration

The brawl after the turnover

Sherman calling out revis

Pete Carroll laughing on the sidelines when things were going good.


Really no class on a major stage

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[quote=Chico23231;1106842]Gotta say Seattle has no class.

That Doug Baldwin celebration

The brawl after the turnover

Sherman calling out revis

Pete Carroll laughing on the sidelines when things were going good.


Really no class on a major stage[/quote]

And a bunch of cheaters on the other sideline, who also were throwing punches in the final seconds. Not sure class was a big theme from either side really.

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[quote=Mattyk;1106841]Ignore the nonsense. Brady is great no doubt. Shame though that 95% of the conversation today is focused on him though.[/quote]

True but he did lead the biggest second half comeback in Super Bowl history. 4 td against the defense, not easy to do. New England had zero running game

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1106841]Ignore the nonsense. Brady is great no doubt. Shame though that 95% of the conversation today is focused on him though.[/QUOTE]


On that note - great effing game. Wow. After last years horrid game this was really nice to watch. I thought the commercials sucked, and KP's wardrobe was waaaay to conservative! And yeah Chico - all those things u mentioned - total crap. I am so happy they lost.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12267457/super-bowl-xlix-seattle-seahawks-bruce-irvin-apologizes-end-game-fight-ejection]Super Bowl XLIX -- Seattle Seahawks' Bruce Irvin apologizes for end-of-game fight, ejection - ESPN[/url]

Irvin apologizes .... by saying he was just protecting a brother and he would do it again. congratulations on being the 1st dude ejected from a SB.

I always think it is bush league to get physical on a kneel down. Like Gronk said - its football, emotions run high ....

but the seahawks are odd. they cant win with class, they cant lose without getting cheap.

edit -- this guy below is pretty funny. seahawks = evil taint!

Matt R****** · Top Commenter · Arizona State University

Another classless Seattle Seahawk thug apologizing for getting caught. I sure hope this undignified lot keeps their losing streak going big time next season. Congratulations Seahawks on turning virtually the entire NFL fan base against you. Because you do not know how act with class. The Seahawks are the obnoxious, vulgar, evil that taints the entire landscape. If the classless Seahawks never win again it will be too soon for me! Running your mouth, with trash-talking arrogance is no way to impress anyone. This is who the Seahawks and this bum are. Just like Richard Sherman and Baldwin. The same clods that need to exit forever. Get injured and lose big.. the more the merrier. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I wish nothing but the worst for this crude, band of miscreants that are the Seahawks.

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[quote=donofriose;1106828]I thought a good option for them at the goaline would have been a read option/pass.[/quote]

I'm really surprised they didn't run more of the read option last night anyways.


[quote=punch it in;1106837]Nobody is doubting that. [B]People or i should say a person is doubting that a who was under center for the Pats had little to do with it. It was giftwrapped for him? 37-50 for 300+ and 4 TD's - 57 rushing yards - [/B]no run support at all basically ! Against that secondary? To say that is giftwrapped for Brady is just nonsense. He was the MVP and he deserved it 110%![/quote]


I don't even know how to respond to this stupid comment because I didn't ever say

1) Tom had a bad game

2) Tom didn't have anything to do with the win.

I said that win came down to the defense and it did. Tom was on the sideline when the game was won as Matty already pointed out. What I did say is Wilson had a better game. Both of those QBs played well enough to win. Can you please for fucks sake stop saying I said this and that when I haven't.

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i personally wouldnt even try a run/pass option. the D could fan out taking away the run option leaving russell to have to force a pass. unless i really really trusted my QB to get outside the tackle and throw it away if a guy is not wide open. thats a lot of trust when you could just run it.

just run it 3 times with a min left. dont even risk a handoff. do 3 QB sneaks.

throwing on the 1 yard line is what I do to pad RG3 stats in madden. actually i dont even throw it, i QB sneak it from the 1.

im convinced it was done to make Wilson the star and make him more profitable for the team to offset his huge new deal.

Bevell played madden with the SB on the line. wtf is that?

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[quote=Chico23231;1106842]Gotta say Seattle has no class.

That Doug Baldwin celebration

The brawl after the turnover

Sherman calling out revis

Pete Carroll laughing on the sidelines when things were going good.


Really no class on a major stage[/quote]

Again trying to make it about himself. Did he even notice that the ref picked off Revis? Great player and all, but his ego is ridiculous.

And the brawl was all on Seattle. They threw the punches and the refs called it correctly. Classless.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1106847]I'm really surprised they didn't run more of the read option last night anyways.











I don't even know how to respond to this stupid comment because I didn't ever say



1) Tom had a bad game



2) Tom didn't have anything to do with the win.



I said that win came down to the defense and it did. Tom was on the sideline when the game was won as Matty already pointed out. What I did say is Wilson had a better game. Both of those QBs played well enough to win. Can you please for fucks sake stop saying I said this and that when I haven't.[/QUOTE]


Who gives a crap where he was when the game clock expired? He was on the field when it was "won". He engineered the drive that won it.
Can you please stop saying that me, Calia, Donofriose or any of the other "idiots" are saying Brady did this alone? None of us did. You are the one putting words in peoples mouths. Not me. You did say the game was "giftwrapped" for him. Thats nonsense.

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We differ on our opinions apparently of how much Brady had to do with the win. We differ on who outplayed who - him or Wilson? Thats fine. No need to get bent or call people idiots as others have already stated.
Edit: i never said that you stated tom had a bad game. I never said you stated that he didnt have ANYTHING to do with it. I said you stated he had little to do with it. Big difference. Since you jumped into the convo last night u have been hellbent on proving Brady did not shine, that the defense won the game for him, that it was giftwrapped for him. I disagree. That is all. I aplogize for disagreeing, but imo Brady was the straw that stirred the drink last night - not sure how you can see it differently but i certainly wont call you an idiot for it.

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Wilson barely made 50% of his passes.
He thew a game killing pick.
Brady sliced and diced the Seattle defense in the 4th quarter and got MVP.
Brady ownzed Wilson.

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I think Wilson still had a good game. It just wasn't good enough.

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well, that was insane. definitely one of the best super bowls i have ever seen

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I was surprised NE didnt call a timeout at the end of the game. Anybody else wondering why he was letting the clock run? He couldnt possibly have known they were going to try that dumb pass. Or could he have? Hmmmm

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[quote=punch it in;1106866]I was surprised NE didnt call a timeout at the end of the game. Anybody else wondering why he was letting the clock run? He couldnt possibly have known they were going to try that dumb pass. Or could he have? Hmmmm[/quote]

They decided it was probably stop them now or lose the game. Maybe memories of playing the Giants a couple of years ago popped up in their mind.

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[quote=punch it in;1106866]I was surprised NE didnt call a timeout at the end of the game. Anybody else wondering why he was letting the clock run? He couldnt possibly have known they were going to try that dumb pass. Or could he have? Hmmmm[/quote]

belicheak sd he wasnt surprised they tried to pass.

i dont have the link.

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I hate that Russell Wilson had to lose. I have so much respect for that guy. Great guy off field. Great player on the field. And it's scary that he's so young - he's just going to get better.

Having said that, I'm glad the Seahawks lost. But I don't think this loss has humbled them. I think they're still going to talk smack (I'm looking at you Richard Sherman), I think they're still going to be arrogant, and I think until some team comes up and smacks them right in the face and completely embarrasses them on national television, you won't see much of a change with the Seahawks. But, I do take great joy and seeing them disappointed, even if it was at the hands of the New England Patriots.

With that said, I hope Scot McCloughan has what it takes to bring some of that Seattle magic to the Redskins. To build a powerhouse than can rival the Seahawks in the post season would be great. And then of course, a team that can win the Super Bowl.

By the way, I could have stood to have seen more of Katy Perry.

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[QUOTE=donofriose;1106867]They decided it was probably stop them now or lose the game. Maybe memories of playing the Giants a couple of years ago popped up in their mind.[/QUOTE]


But when they are at the one yard line, why not use your timeouts? Seattle was going to try n punch it in. No way they are going to try and make new england use their timeouts? I mean u wind up losing with 40 seconds left or maybe 0 seconds left? I was yelling at my tv wtf r u doing?!? Lol
Edit: i meant when Seattle had the ball at the end and the Pats had two to's left, not when the Pats marched down the field. Sorry.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1106868]belicheak sd he wasnt surprised they tried to pass.



i dont have the link.[/QUOTE]


Yeah i saw that. Think dan patrick asked him. Was trying to bait BB into saying "what a dumbass i guess". Lol. Im sure he was surprised. Think he was just taking the high road in a way.

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Bottom line, it was a great game. Right up there as one of the most exciting games. I am not a fan of either team but still a good game to watch. Good teams making good plays.

Brady played a really good game but was helped by an excellent game plan and solid games from his receivers - I don't recall any bad drops and more than a few really nice catches. Mostly, well thrown balls to the right receiver who then caught them and, generally, made a few extra yards. Had the Pats lost, however, the goal line interception early on would have been critical (horrible throw, just bad and cost points).

Wilson also played well. Made plays when he had to do so, but just not enough. NE contained Lynch and, while a solid game, he never really took it over as I have seen him do in other big games. Regardless, the final pass play was a terrible, terrible call and the Seattle OC's attempt to blame the receiver (alleging he didn't fight hard enough) was ridiculous.

It was a team effort by both squads. A few missed calls, but none that made me say "Well, that really taints the game."

As for the brawl, yeah, punches were thrown by both but Seattle blew their cool and started it. Both sides escalated it.

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I don't hate Sherman, Wilson I can't stand.

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[IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18apikzbgh0d5gif/original.gif[/IMG]

This still makes me smile.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1106881]I don't hate Sherman, Wilson I can't stand.[/QUOTE]


I hate anyone who puts on that uniform. I used to be sort of a closet Seahawks fan. I remember really rooting for them against Pittsburgh. Now they are almost my most hated team in any sport. I am pretty sure it stems mainly from carroll and sherman.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1106881]I don't hate Sherman, Wilson I can't stand.[/quote]

Wilson just seems like a real good guy. I find no reason to hate on him at all. I mean he goes to local hospitals on his day off to visit cancer patients. It's some of his teammates that rub me the wrong way and Sherman is one of them. That crap he pulled calling out Revis during the game is what I'm talking about.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1106890]Wilson just seems like a real good guy. I find no reason to hate on him at all. I mean he goes to local hospitals on his day off to visit cancer patients. It's some of his teammates that rub me the wrong way and Sherman is one of them. That crap he pulled calling out Revis during the game is what I'm talking about.[/quote]

It's a competition, you can respect your opponent and still talk crap to them, Wilson I don't like because people talk about him like he is Drew Brees. Richard Sherman is being himself. To be honest I don't care if athletes visit hospitals or donate charities, that isn't why I watch sports. Richard Sherman strikes me as the same person on the field that he is off. Also, never really cared about the athlete being some kind of ambassador of peace.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1106892]It's a competition, you can respect your opponent and still talk crap to them, Wilson I don't like because people talk about him like he is Drew Brees. Richard Sherman is being himself. To be honest I don't care if athletes visit hospitals or donate charities, that isn't why I watch sports. Richard Sherman strikes me as the same person on the field that he is off. Also, never really cared about the athlete being some kind of ambassador of peace.[/quote]

I disagree with that. A community is only as strong as the members of the community, I don't care if you are a small business owner, an athlete a politician, a teacher a CEO of a publically traded company if you are not a vested member of the community you are not being responsible. I have a hard time believing that if it came out that none of the Redskins were being active in the DMV that you would find that acceptable.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1106893]I disagree with that. A community is only as strong as the members of the community, I don't care if you are a small business owner, an athlete a politician, a teacher a CEO of a publically traded company if you are not a vested member of the community you are not being responsible. I have a hard time believing that if it came out that none of the Redskins were being active in the DMV that you would find that acceptable.[/QUOTE]


I agree. Your making millions to play a game. You better find time to help out in the community.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1106890]Wilson just seems like a real good guy. I find no reason to hate on him at all. I mean he goes to local hospitals on his day off to visit cancer patients. It's some of his teammates that rub me the wrong way and Sherman is one of them. That crap he pulled calling out Revis during the game is what I'm talking about.[/quote]

looks like Brady had the last laugh with Sherman, and showed class while kicking his ass. What a concept

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[quote=skinsguy;1106870]I hate that Russell Wilson had to lose. I have so much respect for that guy. Great guy off field. Great player on the field. And it's scary that he's so young - he's just going to get better.

Having said that, I'm glad the Seahawks lost. But I don't think this loss has humbled them. I think they're still going to talk smack (I'm looking at you Richard Sherman), I think they're still going to be arrogant, and I think until some team comes up and smacks them right in the face and completely embarrasses them on national television, you won't see much of a change with the Seahawks. But, I do take great joy and seeing them disappointed, even if it was at the hands of the New England Patriots.

With that said, I hope Scot McCloughan has what it takes to bring some of that Seattle magic to the Redskins. To build a powerhouse than can rival the Seahawks in the post season would be great. And then of course, a team that can win the Super Bowl.

By the way, I could have stood to have seen more of Katy Perry.[/quote]

Sums up how I feel . Great game .

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[quote=Chico23231;1106895]looks like Brady had the last laugh with Sherman, and showed class while kicking his ass. What a concept[/quote]

If you noticed, Brady stayed complete away from Sherman. I think he threw at him once or twice. Sherman may be a self promoter and all, but he still has the respect of the best QB's in the game.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1106893]I disagree with that. A community is only as strong as the members of the community, I don't care if you are a small business owner, an athlete a politician, a teacher a CEO of a publically traded company if you are not a vested member of the community you are not being responsible. I have a hard time believing that if it came out that none of the Redskins were being active in the DMV that you would find that acceptable.[/quote]

I really would not care if they were helping the community or not. All I really care about is if they are winning on Sunday. If you wanna visit a hospital that's fine, if you wanna keep your millions and just chill in your house that is fine too, end of the day I watch them to see them play football, not find out what "good deed" they are doing.