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[quote=DynamiteRave;1117084]If they make that change, I hope they do it before game 1. The QB carousel during the season has got to throw team morale for a loop. Let the guys know what they need to be expecting ASAP.[/quote]

Kirk will have a big test against the Ravens, but I think the starting position is his to lose. I don't have a lot of faith in him after he fell apart last year. But maybe we have a better team around him?

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1117081]RG3 didn't pass the concussion test. So, guess it's the Cousins/McCoy show against the Ravens.[/quote]

Where did you hear that?

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1117081]RG3 didn't pass the concussion test. So, guess it's the Cousins/McCoy show against the Ravens.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear about RG3 being injured, but all I can say is Thank Goodness that we will get to see Kirk Cousins and Colt McCoy compete next week.

I agree with all of the comments here, that the Offensive Line did not play well l, but both Colt McCoy and Krik Cousins looked decent behind the Offensive Line. So the problem is RG3.

Honestly, both Colt McCoy and Kirk Cousins actually looked comfortable behind the crappie Offensive Line, and both Quarterbacks actually played well. Conversely, RG3 looked totally uncomfortable the whole night.

As mentioned, unfortunately I think that RG3 may be done.

I can only hope that Jay Gruden and his staff are given the opportunity to start either Colt McCoy or Kirk Cousins in the Regular Season, instead of being forced to start RG3.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1117086]Where did you hear that?[/quote]

I think Gruden alluded to this in his press conference. However, the word from the sports media guys on Twitter was that he pass the concussion test but may have had a shoulder problem. The whole thing is confusing.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1117086]Where did you hear that?[/QUOTE]
[b]Robert Griffin III diagnosed with concussion[/b]
[URL]http://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/813740[/URL]

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[quote=SmootSmack;1117086]Where did you hear that?[/quote]

[url]https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/634562321793347585[/url]

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Any word on Hayward?

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[quote=SirLK26;1117092]Any word on Hayward?[/quote]

SI is saying torn ACL and out for the season:

[url=http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/08/20/washington-redskins-adam-hayward-torn-acl]Washington Redskins LB Adam Hayward (torn ACL) out for season - NFL - SI.com[/url]

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I heard Gruden say Rob's shoulder is fine and he's going through concussion tests. Have not heard/read anywhere that he didn't pass

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1117093]SI is saying torn ACL and out for the season:

[url=http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/08/20/washington-redskins-adam-hayward-torn-acl]Washington Redskins LB Adam Hayward (torn ACL) out for season - NFL - SI.com[/url][/QUOTE]
As someone who just tore up his own ACL, all I can say is that I am sorry to hear that. [emoji20]

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[quote=SirLK26;1117092]Any word on Hayward?[/quote]

......Is it to early to fire the training staff again?

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I would like to see KC start next week. You know he'll face the kitchen sink at Baltimore. See how he responds to that pressure.

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[quote=Hog1;1117096]......Is it to early to fire the training staff again?[/quote]

For real.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1117081]RG3 didn't pass the concussion test. So, guess it's the Cousins/McCoy show against the Ravens.[/QUOTE]


Hey weve come along way since the Rex/Beck show!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1117097]I would like to see KC start next week. You know he'll face the kitchen sink at Baltimore. See how he responds to that pressure.[/QUOTE]


Yeah if he can make our first team offense look somewhat efficient I will probably be excited for the season. I am not trying to hate on Griff but man when he is in I feel like the entire rest of the team is somehow infected by him. It goes back to that whole organ rejection thing that HTTR pointed out.

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We are 2-0 with RG3 as our starting QB this season! Why the long faces?

I'm rolling with him all season, don't care if I go down with the ship.

Httr!!

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Our ST's are screwed without our 2 best special teamers (Hayward and Paul)

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[quote=skinsnut;1117069]And tell me the total score of the first stringers in those 2 games.
I could give a crap that our bench team beats other bench players.
None of them will be playing.

We have a lot of talent on offense...WR's, RB's.
When our QB's could get the ball to WR's they were awesome. Our RBs were solid too. We just need a QB that can simply get the ball to someone else as quickly as possible[/quote]

I think you missed the sarcasm.

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I really, honestly think that the offense will look better with cousins in. We may not win more, and there may be interceptions and moments that make you upset, a a fan....but I think the offense will show promise. Whereas the griffin th offense just looks inept and unprepared. I said it in another thread..it looks like griffin gave up. Cousins looks hungry. I'd be surprised if griff is starting by the end of pre season. And by game 8 I may have a video posted of me burning another Jersey.

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RG3 is the only QB I've seen SCARED to throw the ball. He did get murdered tonight but a lot as is fault to.

He had Grant for the 1st down on his first read when he connected to Jones.

He had 3 under routes on the 3rd and long he got hurt.

He had Garcon on the hot route hen he got drilled on the cover 0.

I want to see more of RG3 the QB and less of RG3 the playmaker.

He's like Dr Jeckel and Mr. Hyde. Except it's RG3 is afraid of the QB Robert Griffin 3

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[quote=Bucket;1117106]RG3 is the only QB I've seen SCARED to throw the ball. He did get murdered tonight but a lot as is fault to.

He had Grant for the 1st down on his first read when he connected to Jones.

He had 3 under routes on the 3rd and long he got hurt.

He had Garcon on the hot route hen he got drilled on the cover 0.

I want to see more of RG3 the QB and less of RG3 the playmaker.

He's like Dr Jeckel and Mr. Hyde. Except it's RG3 is afraid of the QB Robert Griffin 3[/quote]


this is what I thought...he is still doing the same things he did last year. I'm done with his bullshit excuses. It's time to move on

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RG3 was getting murdered back there. I played QB thru college, and that has an effect on your ability to be successful. You have no chance back there if you have no confidence in your line. After those hits I wouldn't either. Even makes quick reads harder. Doesn't excuse the fumble though. Gotta protect the rock.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1117143]RG3 was getting murdered back there. I played QB thru college, and that has an effect on your ability to be successful. You have no chance back there if you have no confidence in your line. After those hits I wouldn't either. Even makes quick reads harder. Doesn't excuse the fumble though. Gotta protect the rock.[/QUOTE]


I wish it were as simple as better pass pro, and I never played the position but it seems to me it is so much more than that. Missing reads, and running into the pressure instead of away from it. Putting 5 studs on the line will help any qb, but I have seen him screw up too much with ample time too. Im afraid that the reality is the guy just isnt very good.

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[quote=punch it in;1117147]I wish it were as simple as better pass pro, and I never played the position but it seems to me it is so much more than that. Missing reads, and running into the pressure instead of away from it. Putting 5 studs on the line will help any qb, but I have seen him screw up too much with ample time too. Im afraid that the reality is the guy just isnt very good.[/quote]

That may well be the case. But its hard to improve at the things you mentioned when there's a good chance you're getting mugged. He is gonna get David Carr syndrome.

Like I've mentioned, I want to see him play 16 games and see where he's at at the end. To play 16 games the line play needs to drastically improve.

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Robert may be making some progress with his game, or maybe he's not. I don't know. All I know is you can't judge him based on what we saw last night. The rush was on top of him way too fast for any QB in the league to do much about it.

Our line was just overmatched, plain and simple. If it were a regular season game, even with Trent starting, we would have been waxed.

Detroit had the 2nd ranked D last year, their defensive line, even without Suh, is still boss. This is going to happen to us, we're not that good yet.

I saw things in Robert's game against Cleveland that still reminded me of the same old problems. But I'm not going to draw any conclusions on him based on this Detroit game.

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If he's concussed after 8 plays and not getting rid of the ball, then I've seen all I need to.
This experiment is over.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1117156]That may well be the case. But its hard to improve at the things you mentioned when there's a good chance you're getting mugged. He is gonna get David Carr syndrome.



Like I've mentioned, I want to see him play 16 games and see where he's at at the end. To play 16 games the line play needs to drastically improve.[/QUOTE]


At this point though it is just glaringly evident that our other qb's do not get mugged like Griff. They have the ability to move and avoid hits from the pocket. I understand that Griff has been injured alot, but that is a result of not knowing when or how to slide, not knowing when to throw the ball away, and having absolutely zero pocket awareness. Not just a result of poor pass pro. On top of all this though I firmly believe even if he could understand these things he is not a good QB. I dont know man my Griff is the savior ship sailed away months and months ago.

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[quote=Schneed10;1117157]Robert may be making some progress with his game, or maybe he's not. I don't know. All I know is you can't judge him based on what we saw last night. The rush was on top of him way too fast for any QB in the league to do much about it.

Our line was just overmatched, plain and simple. If it were a regular season game, even with Trent starting, we would have been waxed.

Detroit had the 2nd ranked D last year, their defensive line, even without Suh, is still boss. This is going to happen to us, we're not that good yet.

I saw things in Robert's game against Cleveland that still reminded me of the same old problems. But I'm not going to draw any conclusions on him based on this Detroit game.[/quote]

..........yes!

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3 qbs played with a bad oline, only 1 looked terrible.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;1117272]3 qbs played with a bad oline, only 1 looked terrible.[/QUOTE]
[emoji115] This! [emoji115]

Completely Agree!