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[quote=Chico23231;1161363][url=http://wtvr.com/2017/01/03/ford-700-jobs-trump/]Ford cancels Mexico plant; calls it ‘vote of confidence’ for Trump | WTVR.com[/url]

Boom Trump strikes again![/quote]


Pretty sure I think you mean Obama.

"
Ford currently employs 85,000 Americans, up 28,000, or nearly 50%, in just the last five years. In Mexico, Ford employs 8,800."

....Trump isn't president ,yet.

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[quote=Giantone;1161396]Pretty sure I think you mean Obama.

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Ford currently employs 85,000 Americans, up 28,000, or nearly 50%, in just the last five years. In Mexico, Ford employs 8,800."

....Trump isn't president ,yet.[/quote]

Read the article, Ford is paying heed to Trump.

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[quote=Chico23231;1161397]Read the article, Ford is paying heed to Trump.[/quote]

And read your own link it says Ford has almost doubled it's work force in the "LAST FIVE YEARS".Who was President during(still) that time?

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[url=http://www.nbc12.com/story/34186897/4-in-custody-in-chicago-after-facebook-video-allegedly-shows-trump-supporter-taken-hostage-tortured]4 in custody in Chicago after Facebook video allegedly shows 'Tr - NBC12 - WWBT - Richmond, VA News On Your Side[/url]

Could u imagine the outrage if the roles were reversed? But u will hear very little of this story...doesn't fit the narrative for the media

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A week before inauguration and this ass clown is fighting with meryl streep. What a fucking child. Unreal. A mentally unstable and juvenile ego maniac. Just what the fucking world needs. My God.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1161600][url=http://www.nbc12.com/story/34186897/4-in-custody-in-chicago-after-facebook-video-allegedly-shows-trump-supporter-taken-hostage-tortured]4 in custody in Chicago after Facebook video allegedly shows 'Tr - NBC12 - WWBT - Richmond, VA News On Your Side[/url]



Could u imagine the outrage if the roles were reversed? But u will hear very little of this story...doesn't fit the narrative for the media[/QUOTE]



As long as they r punished who cares about the media. I do not disagree with you though. If this was the other way around it would be a huuuuuge story. But again as long as the idiots in the world are dealt with fuck the media and their fluff.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1162248]A week before inauguration and this ass clown is fighting with meryl streep. What a fucking child. Unreal. A mentally unstable and juvenile ego maniac. Just what the fucking world needs. My God.[/QUOTE]


He's so predictable, he can't take it when someone calls him out. I can't believe we're going to have to deal with 4 years of a President with the social media habits of a 12 year old.

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I guess I'll continue the Trumpeter role for Punch's sake.

Social and Hollywood elites whined and bitched about Trump long before he was ever elected. I am glad to see that he's going to continue calling out the hypocrites, whenever they try to make their whiny little crusades.

As for 4 years of a 12yo social media president, standing in front of the golden globe syncophants or running tv ads calling on electors to forego their obligations is no better than a short tweet.

Finally, when Bush was president, the comedy shows like Daily Central, and SNL spouted liberal dogma in the form of "comedy" and people start forming their opinions from that. If Trump takes that on by calling out the blatant bias it will hopefully keep those type shows a little more honest than they ever have been, or at the least highlight their bias more.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1162260]I guess I'll continue the Trumpeter role for Punch's sake.

Social and Hollywood elites whined and bitched about Trump long before he was ever elected. I am glad to see that he's going to continue calling out the hypocrites, whenever they try to make their whiny little crusades.

As for 4 years of a 12yo social media president, standing in front of the golden globe syncophants or running tv ads calling on electors to forego their obligations is no better than a short tweet.

Finally, when Bush was president, the comedy shows like Daily Central, and SNL spouted liberal dogma in the form of "comedy" and people start forming their opinions from that. If Trump takes that on by calling out the blatant bias it will hopefully keep those type shows a little more honest than they ever have been, or at the least highlight their bias more.[/quote]


I have to ask, "If Trump takes that on by calling out the blatant bias it will hopefully keep those type shows a little more honest than they ever have been, or at the least highlight their bias more".........please explain?

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1162260]I guess I'll continue the Trumpeter role for Punch's sake.

Social and Hollywood elites whined and bitched about Trump long before he was ever elected. I am glad to see that he's going to continue calling out the hypocrites, whenever they try to make their whiny little crusades.

As for 4 years of a 12yo social media president, standing in front of the golden globe syncophants or running tv ads calling on electors to forego their obligations is no better than a short tweet.

Finally, when Bush was president, the comedy shows like Daily Central, and SNL spouted liberal dogma in the form of "comedy" and people start forming their opinions from that. If Trump takes that on by calling out the blatant bias it will hopefully keep those type shows a little more honest than they ever have been, or at the least highlight their bias more.[/QUOTE]



Just stop dude,....there has never been such a weak minded president before and hopefully there never will be again.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1162311]I have to ask, "If Trump takes that on by calling out the blatant bias it will hopefully keep those type shows a little more honest than they ever have been, or at the least highlight their bias more".........please explain?[/QUOTE]



There is no explaining, it is just words on top of words until we forget what the hell we were talking about. It is the same strategy that Trump has used since day one. Lol. Just keep talking and avoiding the pount and soon everyone will either be confused or forget what the point was.
The POTUS is arguing on Twitter with everyone who disagrees with him. That is all you really need to know. Impossible to believe people still do not see that this guy is mentally unfit to be potus. Impossible.
We are officially living in the Twilight Zone.

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[quote=Giantone;1162311]I have to ask, "If Trump takes that on by calling out the blatant bias it will hopefully keep those type shows a little more honest than they ever have been, or at the least highlight their bias more".........please explain?[/quote]

It's not that complicated. Throughout Bush2 and Pres. Obama's terms especially, the media, hard news and the secondary comedy faux news have consistently pursued a twofold strategy of putting the liberal elite on a pedestal, and attacking the leaders of any conservative movement. They have tried the same with Trump, but unlike others, he doesn't just take it, he responds, and points forces a discussion each time.

It's a lot like Reagan did with the media outlets that were available to him at the time.

edit: one other point, the more the hollywood elitists cry and whine, the more that they prove their disconnect. This is only going to hurt them in the end.

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[quote=punch it in;1162312]Just stop dude,....there has never been such a weak minded president before and hopefully there never will be again.[/quote]

He's not weak-minded, in fact he plays the Twitter bully pulpit very effectively.

[quote]weak-mind·ed
adj. - lacking determination, emotional strength, or intellectual capacity.
[/quote]

If you think he lacks any of those you are misreading his public actions and intents.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1162323]It's not that complicated. Throughout Bush2 and Pres. Obama's terms especially, the media, hard news and the secondary comedy faux news have consistently pursued a twofold strategy of putting the liberal elite on a pedestal, and attacking the leaders of any conservative movement. They have tried the same with Trump, but unlike others, he doesn't just take it, he responds, and points forces a discussion each time.



It's a lot like Reagan did with the media outlets that were available to him at the time.



edit: one other point, the more the hollywood elitists cry and whine, the more that they prove their disconnect. This is only going to hurt them in the end.[/QUOTE]



Wrong. It is not a matter of him not "taking it". If Some actor or actress lashed out at Obama, or Bush, or fucking George Washington I find it hard to believe it would bother them at all. Let alone to the point that they start tweeting about them being overrated! He is going to be the God damned POTUS! Fucking act like it!
Also, it is hardly the hollywood elitists, (Lol. So funny how Trumpers love to call them that as they applaud the Wall Street and Oil tycoons into the White house), that are thee only ones that can see this guy is insane. Again, most of our country and the free world agree. They just have a platform to make it known.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1162324]He's not weak-minded, in fact he plays the Twitter bully pulpit very effectively.







If you think he lacks any of those you are misreading his public actions and intents.[/QUOTE]



Weak minded = being a grown man who gets his feelings hurt and cannot stand someone thinking he is not great so they take to social media to insult them. The way he handles criticism is tantamount to the way my 10 year old daughter handles being told no.

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[quote=punch it in;1162336]Wrong. It is not a matter of him not "taking it". If Some actor or actress lashed out at Obama, or Bush, or fucking George Washington I find it hard to believe it would bother them at all. Let alone to the point that they start tweeting about them being overrated! He is going to be the God damned POTUS! Fucking act like it!
Also, it is hardly the hollywood elitists, (Lol. So funny how Trumpers love to call them that as they applaud the Wall Street and Oil tycoons into the White house), that are thee only ones that can see this guy is insane. Again, most of our country and the free world agree. They just have a platform to make it known.[/quote]

You put the presidents on a platform they don't belong. None of them were saints and most had plenty of ways, both public and private that they humiliated or brought down their opponents.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1162340]You put the presidents on a platform they don't belong. None of them were saints and most had plenty of ways, both public and private that they humiliated or brought down their opponents.[/QUOTE]



I am not putting them on a platform. I know they all have their agendas. I know they are not saints. Trust me if I thought they were Bush would have been the last guy I mentioned. Lol
This has gone so far beyond anyone's affiliations though. Can you honestly tell me that you are comfortable with the potus tweeting about nuclear weapons and Meryl Streep being overrated in basically the same breath?
My God.
He is so all over the map, he is way too sensitive to criticism, and has skin as thick as an over filled water balloon. Just concentrate on doing your fucking job. He must have more pressing issues right now than tweeting about Meryl Streep. He must.

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Trump is classless trash. He's a classic bully, loves to dish it out but he can't take it in return.

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1) It's not his "fucking job yet", and Pres Obama is making sure to use every possible day of his term to f*** up international relations.

2) No I don't care - again, I love seeing the tizzy libs get into over a tweet barrage. It makes me smile.

3) I still have yet to see any substantive policy plans from Trump's transition team that I would disagree with.

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Nails it

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-trump-is-really-saying-in-his-tweets-im-weak/2017/01/09/ef2c61b2-d6ac-11e6-9a36-1d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.5db9a113e2a7[/url]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1162347]Nails it



[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-trump-is-really-saying-in-his-tweets-im-weak/2017/01/09/ef2c61b2-d6ac-11e6-9a36-1d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.5db9a113e2a7[/url][/QUOTE]



Nothing there that anyone could possibly disagree with. Lol. Makes me smile.
Cue the twilight zone music.

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He's insecure and weak, no doubt someone is going to play that against him. Putin already has him on a leash.

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[quote=MTK;1162356]He's insecure and weak, no doubt someone is going to play that against him. Putin already has him on a leash.[/quote]

Putin has Trump on a leash, but he already whipped Obama with a stick.


Its so funny, at the first Democratic debate, a super stand-up dude and generally smart mutherfucker [B]Jim Webb[/B] when asked what was our greatest threat nailed it:

COOPER: Secretary Clinton, the greatest national security threat?

CLINTON: I - I think it has to be continued threat from the spread of nuclear weapons, nuclear material that can fall into the wrong hands. I know the terrorists are constantly seeking it, and that's why we have to stay vigilant, but also united around the world to prevent that.

COOPER: Senator Sanders, greatest national security threat?

SANDERS: The scientific community is telling us that if we do not address the global crisis of climate change, transform our energy system away from fossil fuel to sustainable energy, the planet that we're going to be leaving our kids and our grandchildren may well not be habitable. That is a major crisis.

COOPER: Senator Webb?

WEBB: Our greatest long-term strategic challenge is our relation with China. [B]Our greatest day-to-day threat is cyber warfare against this country[/B]. Our greatest military-operational threat is resolving the situations in the Middle East.



This man already knew it...why is it within the Obama administration has failed so miserably with this? Why isn't this country more prepared in defended itself from Russia and China and the cybersecurity threat? If there was any assist with the hacking issue, its from the current administration and the failed leadership to defend this country from outside threat.

LOL and poor Bernie's response...I mean, the poor guy means well, but the good lord.

So if the Russians influenced anything, then clearly they were allowed by a weak Obama Administration and a weak State department. Period.

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Soon to be Trump's problem, good thing he's the best at the cyber.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1162340]You put the presidents on a platform they don't belong. None of them were saints and most had plenty of ways, both public and private that they humiliated or brought down their opponents.[/quote]

I put the Office on a platform and I expect the people who occupy that office to respect it ,very clear Trump does not .I understand you might not like my politics or I yours ,that is the way it works.Trump it's "fake news" with Reagan it was "dis-information" there is a big difference.Thanks to Trump now there is no news agency that is a good one unless they are pro Trump and that's BS.Hell he has wrecked the reputations of the CIA,FBI and NSA.All agree the Russians hacked the election/campaigns even Trump has had to come to the realization of it but not before he did damage to this country and the Office of the President.Hell not a super fan of Obama's but he and his family have been nothing but class in that office,Trump isn't even in it yet and he has tarnished it.Keep track of the promise's he breaks or doesn't keep.

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[quote=Chico23231;1162357]Putin has Trump on a leash, but he already whipped Obama with a stick.



So if the Russians influenced anything, then clearly they were allowed by a weak Obama Administration and a weak State department. Period.[/quote]


Pretty easy to blame Obama for everything but you seem to forget that his hands were tied with a Congress that wouldn't let him do squat the leash was congress and when you have open traitors leave NSA and be brought in with open arms to Russia really isn't that big of a question on how things are getting hacked now is it?

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[quote=Giantone;1162363]Pretty easy to blame Obama for everything but you seem to forget that his[B] hands were tied with a Congress that [/B]wouldn't let him do squat the leash was congress and when you have open traitors leave NSA and be brought in with open arms to Russia really isn't that big of a question on how things are getting hacked now is it?[/quote]

lol come on really? He doesn't need Congress permission to defend the country, he can direct the state department accordingly.

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[quote=Giantone;1162361]I put the Office on a platform and I expect the people who occupy that office to respect it ,very clear Trump does not .I understand you might not like my politics or I yours ,that is the way it works.Trump it's "fake news" with Reagan it was "dis-information" there is a big difference.Thanks to Trump now there is no news agency that is a good one unless they are pro Trump and that's BS.Hell he has wrecked the reputations of the CIA,FBI and NSA.All agree the Russians hacked the election/campaigns even Trump has had to come to the realization of it but not before he did damage to this country and the Office of the President.Hell not a super fan of Obama's but he and his family have been nothing but class in that office,Trump isn't even in it yet and he has tarnished it.Keep track of the promise's he breaks or doesn't keep.[/quote]
The Presidency is one man who sits in an office for 4-8 years. Those who inflate his stature above that fail at the very basic premise of our Constitution. He holds 1 position in 1 branch of a government uniquely divided and re-divided to minimize the importance of any one individual.

The office of the Presidency should not be seen as a prime minister, or a dictator, or authoritarian monarchy or any other style of government. He is an executive who should execute (see executive - execute it's amazing how that word play works) the laws of the US as passed by the US Congress. He should not be trying to make laws with a phone and a pen, nor should he be releasing enemies of the state so they can attack us again. He should be appointing people who understand how to operate and streamline large entities like the government has become.

The fundamental belief held by George Washington, truly a great man, was that the office of the President should never be seen as a seat of power like a King, or despot. Our country has followed the natural conditioning of humans to crave that the Presidency be seen as more than it is or ever was supposed to be. He makes no laws (unless his last name is Obama), He instills no budgets. Hopefully he gives a vision and voice that leads to a greater country, but the last one who successfully did that was Reagan (I would give a nod to Bill Clinton as well, but I think that the partisan divide that has so engulfed this nation started under his watch, and was inflamed by both Bush and Obama after him).

Can Trump lead this country, I don't know, but I think he's going to try a lot harder to lead every citizen then Pres's Obama and Bush combined. I loved that he knocked the Republicans down when they tried to gut the ethics board. I loved that he calls a leading Dem a clown when he makes baseless political hacks. And I love that he doesn't let a whining actress, who has zero in common with 98% of US citizens make public attacks on him without a response.

For those whose butts are hurt because the "office of the Presidency" has been tarnished, trust me when I tell you the "office of the Presidency" that has seen the likes of Garfield, Tyler, Johnson, Nixon, Bush, and Obama and survived, it will muddle past Trump as well.

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I guess a little common decency is too much to ask for from the President. Sad!

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It's easy for people to dismiss but I disagree with how often his opinions change. Two years ago he names Meryl Streep as one of his favorite actors and now she's overrated?

And Cred, your whole thing about him creating discussions by attacking his critics on Twitter is weak. In two weeks, he's the President. Stop being so thin-skinned and focus on the important shit. There are two kinds of people that sees his Twitter attacks, the ones like you who are his fans who just say "he's telling it like it is, and you're just mad because he's defending himself on a public platform, which you're not used to because other politicians don't do it." And then there's us, who are sitting here like "don't you have anything better to be focusing on then responding to whoever your newest critic is on Twitter?" What's next? Is he gonna set aside time every day to challenge his critics through social media as part of his daily routine? Maybe we should all just say nice things about him, because clearly if you are a critic you are dead to him.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1162365]The Presidency is one man who sits in an office

For those whose butts are hurt because the "office of the Presidency" has been tarnished, trust me when I tell you the "office of the Presidency" that has seen the likes of Garfield, Tyler, Johnson, Nixon, Bush, and Obama and survived, it will muddle past Trump as well.[/quote]


Yes the office will survive Trump ,the question is will the country?

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[quote=MTK;1162369]I guess a little common decency is too much to ask for from the President. [B]Sad[/B]![/quote]

:laughing2

[url=http://www.newsweek.com/everything-made-donald-trump-sad-2016-533949]Everything That Made Donald Trump ‘Sad’ in 2016, According to His Tweets[/url]

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1162376]:laughing2



[url=http://www.newsweek.com/everything-made-donald-trump-sad-2016-533949]Everything That Made Donald Trump ‘Sadâ€[emoji769] in 2016, According to His Tweets[/url][/QUOTE]


lol

What's really sad is his vocabulary, someone get this guy a thesaurus

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[quote=Giantone;1162375]Yes the office will survive Trump ,the question is will the country?[/quote]

Yes, and likely prosper.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1162378]Yes, and likely prosper.[/quote]

I don't disagree on that, if you deregulate everything and admit you give no shits about the environment there's plenty of money to be made. Luckily with a majority in every branch of gov't and business executives with financial incentives to loosen restrictions in charge of all major gov't departments there's nobody to stop that from happening! It's all a part of his 4 phase plan:

Phase 1: loosen restrictions
Phase 2: Profits go up!
Phase 3:___________
Phase 4: Everyone's lives are better!

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Yup, deregulate, cash in, wait for the crash, and leave a big mess for the next guy.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1162371]It's easy for people to dismiss but I disagree with how often his opinions change. Two years ago he names Meryl Streep as one of his favorite actors and now she's overrated?

And Cred, your whole thing about him creating discussions by attacking his critics on Twitter is weak. In two weeks, he's the President. Stop being so thin-skinned and focus on the important shit. There are two kinds of people that sees his Twitter attacks, the ones like you who are his fans who just say "he's telling it like it is, and you're just mad because he's defending himself on a public platform, which you're not used to because other politicians don't do it." And then there's us, who are sitting here like "don't you have anything better to be focusing on then responding to whoever your newest critic is on Twitter?" What's next? Is he gonna set aside time every day to challenge his critics through social media as part of his daily routine? Maybe we should all just say nice things about him, because clearly if you are a critic you are dead to him.[/QUOTE]



Pretty much exactly how I feel. I wanted to mention the whole contradiction thing, but forgot. Glad u did. You could write an entire book of simply contradictions that he has made. Almost anything he says, you can find him saying the exact opposite- two days ago, weeks, years, decades. This guy has been lying cheating and scamming for so long he has no fucking idea what he said or didnt say. He seriously belongs in an institution.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1162378]Yes, and likely prosper.[/QUOTE]



Why because he said so? Lol. Unless you are a fellow billionaire you aint getting any richer.

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Great job Congress: [url=http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/01/the-senate-just-voted-to-roll-back-womens-healthcare.html?mid=facebook_thecutblog]The Senate Just Voted to Roll Back Women's Health Care[/url]

I really enjoyed paying for my wife's birth control. Glad I get to do it again...

I don't care which side you're on with this one, gotta' love a religious based repeal.

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[url=http://www.richmond.com/opinion/our-opinion/article_b17151f1-3db1-52f6-bd1c-b51a37939e6e.html]Editorial - With Trump 'bombshell,' fake news gains new life - Richmond Times-Dispatch: OUR OPINION[/url]

great take here. Buzzfeed has been educating folks about fake news...of course this became an issue "only" after Hillary loss because we need to blame someone other than the candidate.

So Buzzfeed is upset with false, fake news, but then they turn around an publish fake news. Folks you cant make up this hypocrisy.

"Somebody has been shopping the document around for a while, but reputable news organizations did not report on it because, as New York Times executive editor Dean Baquet explained, its contents are "totally unsubstantiated.""