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[QUOTE=MTK;1163000]Kelley is clearly the better back anyway. Jones' heart just isn't in it.[/QUOTE]



Hate to say it but MTK is right. If he loved football, he would probably be much further than he is now. A lot of playing instincts are figured out by playing or practicing long after the sun goes down. And you need to have a passion for football to do this.

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[quote=warriorzpath;1163013]Hate to say it but MTK is right. If he loved football, he would probably be much further than he is now. A lot of playing instincts are figured out by playing or practicing long after the sun goes down. And you need to have a passion for football to do this.[/quote]


I concur!

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Matt Jones or Kelley won't be on the team next year. The Skins are going to take a back in the draft and you have to keep Thompson. Therefore there is only room for 1 of them.

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[url=http://nfltraderumors.co/redskins-sign-cb-tharold-simon-futures-deal/]Redskins Sign CB Tharold Simon To Futures Deal - NFLTradeRumors.co[/url]

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Tharold Simon was a 5th round pick of the Seahawks when Mccloughan was with that organization......I saw his highlight reel....A mixture of good and bad plays.....

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1163073]Tharold Simon was a 5th round pick of the Seahawks when Mccloughan was with that organization......I saw his highlight reel....A mixture of good and bad plays.....[/quote]

Why are we wasting time signing these guys? Draft some studs and get medium to low tier FAs that at least could add depth or be instant starters. Is Scott going to come out with his "football guys" garbage again? Last year's draft was mediocre in hindsight. Half of his "football guys" didn't even make the cut, either due to injury or just couldn't cut the mustard. The guys that did make the cut are oft injured. I can appreciate he is trying to find a golden nugget on the cheap, but I have a better chance of nailing a Playboy Playmate than that occurring.

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[quote=FlyerSkin;1163102]Why are we wasting time signing these guys? Draft some studs and get medium to low tier FAs that at least could add depth or be instant starters. Is Scott going to come out with his "football guys" garbage again? Last year's draft was mediocre in hindsight. Half of his "football guys" didn't even make the cut, either due to injury or just couldn't cut the mustard. The guys that did make the cut are oft injured. I can appreciate he is trying to find a golden nugget on the cheap, but I have a better chance of nailing a Playboy Playmate than that occurring.[/quote]

Maybe because we have to carry 90 players into camp? Maybe some of these can be special teamers? Maybe bringing in motivated players help spur competition? Don't see a downside to starting on this now.

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Yeah as really that it is about competition. And those that have their job on their line. Make them work very hard.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1163005]What are you talking about? I was referring to Jones production...At the time of his disastrous outing in Detroit, he was on pace to gain 1,000-1,200 yards....His stats was a great indicator that he was getting the job done pounding the rock.....His fumbling greatly undermined his overall production.... That's all I'm saying.[/quote]

What I am saying is fumbling wasn't his only issue, he didn't run like he wanted to be dominant. He said it best, in college he got by on athletic talent, because he was just better than everyone else on the field. Once he got to the pros and realized he can't get by on talent alone, he said he was running with a purpose. He said this right around the time we reached .500, largely due in part to a increased commitment to the run game and the resulting increase in production by him.

Sometime after that, his production dropped off and his fumbling resumed and he was eventually benched. I think it's because the coaches realize he lacks motivation. Watch the way Rob Kelley runs. He runs like he has everything to prove, he runs like he wants 11 guys on defense to remember his name. Matt Jones doesn't have that.

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I think Matt Jones plays football cause he's good at it, not cause he loves it. The coaches were stupid to think he could carry the load.

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Mccloughan would have been better off trading back in the third round and waiting to draft Jeremy Langford in the 4th round of the 2015 draft instead of reaching for Matt Jones....

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Here is a list of free agents... hopefully Scott can sign 3 or 4 good ones... at moderate contracts

[url=http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2017all.php]WalterFootball.com: 2017 NFL Free Agents - Top 100[/url]

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Chandler Jones or Calais Campbell.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1163960]Chandler Jones or Calais Campbell.[/quote]

Jones would be the 4th OLB .... Kerrigan, Smith, and Murphy I do not like the plan to run a 3-4. They do not have the personnel .

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[quote=Irrefutable;1163961]Jones would be the 4th OLB .... Kerrigan, Smith, and Murphy I do not like the plan to run a 3-4. They do not have the personnel .[/quote]

Murphy will be a DT next year.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1163962]Murphy will be a DT next year.[/quote]

You want him to gain another 50 pounds? Idk why you would try to transition a pass rushing linebacker to DT, just get a gd defensive tackle.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1163964]You want him to gain another 50 pounds? Idk why you would try to transition a pass rushing linebacker to DT, just get a gd defensive tackle.[/QUOTE]



Yeah Murphy at DT ??????

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Wasnt Murphy supposed to be a DT this year, before Mr Rubber Band Achilles went down?

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1163970]Wasnt Murphy supposed to be a DT this year, before Mr Rubber Band Achilles went down?[/quote]

He was supposed to be an end, there is a big difference.

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Murphy is not moving to DT come on.

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[quote=MTK;1163994]Murphy is not moving to DT come on.[/quote]

Didn't he gain weight to do that last year? He went back to OLB after the Gallette injury. I'm not talking NT, more like Hatcher was.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1163996]Didn't he gain weight to do that last year? He went back to OLB after the Gallette injury. I'm not talking NT, more like Hatcher was.[/quote]

I think your thinking Defensive End.

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[quote=Chico23231;1163997]I think your thinking Defensive End.[/quote]

I guess that's what I meant

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Do you think we go after Zeitler hard and have him move to LG, the Jay connection would be strong.

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LOL

Here Murphy, go eat a german shepherd and report back to Tomsula.

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[quote=hutch17;1164002]Do you think we go after Zeitler hard and have him move to LG, the Jay connection would be strong.[/quote]

I certainly could see that interest...Also think the Ron Leary from the Cowboys makes sense with the Callahan connection. The options at LG are too many not to make a move this year...Lang up in Green Bay too. But Lang doesn't fit the type of LG I want...I want a road grader who can help Long on the Run Blocking in the middle in a power blocking scheme.

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I know there's a big difference in LT vs. RT. Is it the same with LG vs. RG? I can't imagine it would be huge.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1164010]I know there's a big difference in LT vs. RT. Is it the same with LG vs. RG? I can't imagine it would be huge.[/quote]

yeah, my understanding its not a big deal at all. Center and Guards move all the time...fat, strong, and how to use leverage...the life of interior line play.

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Guys, nobody has hit on every draft.
SM has had some luck, Doctson is bad luck no one knew that would happen.
Give him more time, I am absolutely happy with not being an embarrassment anymore.
At least we have a chance at winning some of these games, wasn't that way a few years ago.....

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1163970]Wasnt Murphy supposed to be a DT this year, before Mr Rubber Band Achilles went down?[/quote]No, he was going to be a 3-4 DE. No way will they ever try to make him a 4-3 DT. Murphy was one of our pleasant surprises, really improving in year 3. Leave him where he is, and perhaps that progress will continue.

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[quote=Jayroc24;1164051]Guys, nobody has hit on every draft.
SM has had some luck, Doctson is bad luck no one knew that would happen.
Give him more time, I am absolutely happy with not being an embarrassment anymore.
At least we have a chance at winning some of these games, wasn't that way a few years ago.....[/quote]

Doctson was not going to start if he was healthy. He might be a good pick for the future. " The future is now" should be the plan, not this slow rebuilding plan . "not being an embarrassment " is a very low standard.

SM has 9 picks now in the draft, he needs at least 5 that contribute.

In free agency he has plenty of money.... no more Reyes, Bruton, Toler, Paea, Johnson, Hood, etc.