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[quote=Chico23231;1166218]Bad news for DJax and PG. Good for us.[/quote]

Absolutely! There are choices for receiver. I think the 'skins still have a good shot at keeping at least one of those receivers. I think PG can still be a deep threat, as he proved this past year, he still had the ability to get past the defender deep.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1166219]Marshall is now the best WR on the market followed by Jeffery. Now PG and DJax will have to settle for less than they want IMO. Plus deep WR class[/quote]

Im less confident that there is a huge market for PG and Djax than I was round the season ended.

marshall, Jeffery clearly the class...Kenny Britt is a PG-type and will get a lot of run on the Free Agent market.

Kenny Stills is a DJax "type" too. Much Younger, big play-fast, avg like 17 yards per catch.

Also Brandin Cooks trade talk is legit. Cooks another DJax type...big play receiver.

Our 2 guys 30+...we have a lot of leverage. But, Cousins status depends a lot on what these guys do.

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[quote=Chico23231;1166222]Im less confident that there is a huge market for PG and Djax than I was round the season ended.

marshall, Jeffery clearly the class...Kenny Britt is a PG-type and will get a lot of run on the Free Agent market.

Kenny Stills is a DJax "type" too. Much Younger, big play-fast, avg like [B]17 yards per catch.
[/B]
Also Brandin Cooks trade talk is legit. Cooks another DJax type...big play receiver.

Our 2 guys 30+...we have a lot of leverage. But, Cousins status depends a lot on what these guys do.[/quote]

Drops are a problem with Stills.

I have no idea why NO would trade Cooks. He's going to be a star, IMO.

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Here's a list of FA's I covet (using a modicum of fiscal restraint):

[B]NT[/B]

One of: Brandon Williams, Bennie Logan, or Johnathan Hankins. Williams may be too expensive at $12-13M per year.

[B]3-4 DE[/B]

One of: Calais Campbell or Chris Baker. If Chris is going to cost $7M+ per year, why not go for Calais at $8M+ per year? Both? Nah. We can draft another DE.

[B]ILB[/B]

One of: Donte Hightower or Zack Brown. Hightower might be a pipe dream at $10M+ per year. Brown might cost $4-5M per year. Is he a one year wonder? I'd be willing to find out at that price.

[B]WR[/B]

Pierre Garcon. Just give me Pierre at $8-9M per year.

[B]TE[/B]

[U]Both[/U] Vernon Davis and Anthony Fasano on one year deals. Fasano is a strong blocker.

[B]Safety[/B]

One of: Tony Jefferson or Barry Church.

[B]OG[/B]

Ron Leary (LG). Leary might be too expensive at @ $9M per year.

[B]RB[/B]

LaGarrett Blount. Blount would be great in Goal Line and short yardage situations.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1166240]Here's a list of FA's I covet (using a modicum of fiscal restraint):

[B]NT[/B]

One of: Brandon Williams, Bennie Logan, or Johnathan Hankins. Williams may be too expensive at $12-13M per year.

[B]3-4 DE[/B]

One of: Calais Campbell or Chris Baker. If Chris is going to cost $7M+ per year, why not go for Calais at $8M+ per year? Both? Nah. We can draft another DE.

[B]ILB[/B]

One of: Donte Hightower or Zack Brown. Hightower might be a pipe dream at $10M+ per year. Brown might cost $4-5M per year. Is he a one year wonder? I'd be willing to find out at that price.

[B]WR[/B]

Pierre Garcon. Just give me Pierre at $8-9M per year.

[B]TE[/B]

[U]Both[/U] Vernon Davis and Anthony Fasano on one year deals. Fasano is a strong blocker.

[B]Safety[/B]

One of: Tony Jefferson or Barry Church.

[B]OG[/B]

Ron Leary (LG). Leary might be too expensive at @ $9M per year.

[B]RB[/B]

LaGarrett Blount. Blount would be great in Goal Line and short yardage situations.[/quote]


If KC will sign a long term contract for $10 million a year that might be possible . And I think you are underestimating how much FAs will get.

There are 32 teams, it just takes 2 or 3 teams to drive up the price of a contract . And one more WR will not drive down the contract for PG or DJ.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1166242]If KC will sign a long term contract for $10 million a year that might be possible . And I think you are underestimating how much FAs will get.

There are 32 teams, it just takes 2 or 3 teams to drive up the price of a contract . And one more WR will not drive down the contract for PG or DJ.[/quote]

I used spotrac.com market value numbers for my post. Even so, I know you're right about the likelihood that some of these contract amounts will be driven up. Even without that, I wouldn't expect that the Skins would sign so many FA's. These are just players who I think might fill some of our needs.

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And if the Eagles trade for Cooks, that kills off one team that desperately needs a WR.

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Personally I'd rather the Eagles end up with one of our 30+ guys versus getting someone in their prime that matches perfectly with what Wentz does best.

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Another Garcon-type of receiver could be let go:


ESPN's Rich Cimini reports the Jets "aren't done cutting players" and could move on from Eric Decker this offseason.

The Jets have gone scorched earth this offseason, pulling the plug on Ryan Clady, Breno Giacomini, Erin Henderson, Nick Folk, Nick Mangold, Brandon Marshall and Darrelle Revis. The purge may not be over as Decker, Marcus Gilchrist, Calvin Pryor, Sheldon Richardson and Buster Skrine are all in danger of losing their roster spots. Cimini considers David Harris "safe" but that could change if the Jets sign an inside linebacker in free agency. After going 5-11 this past season, the Jets are gearing up for a full rebuild.

I could see him being released and is another borderline type tier type WR

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1166252]Personally I'd rather the Eagles end up with one of our 30+ guys versus getting someone in their prime that matches perfectly with what Wentz does best.[/quote]

I'd rather them use their 1st rounder to get Cooks than have them buy one of our 30+ guys on the market + use their 1st rounder on a decent player.

I don't need the Eagles getting better too quickly.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1166248]I used spotrac.com market value numbers for my post. Even so, I know you're right about the likelihood that some of these contract amounts will be driven up. Even without that, I wouldn't expect that the Skins would sign so many FA's. These are just players who I think might fill some of our needs.[/quote]

I don't see Church and Jefferson as fits at safety.

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[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/62067/Pierre-Garcon---I-haven-t-heard-anything-from-the-Redskins-/Default.aspx]Pierre Garcon: ‘I haven’t heard anything from the Redskins’[/url]

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Sign Darrelle Revis and move him to free safety? Only a 1-2 year deal. Might not be a bad move. I'd still draft at least 1 safety.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1166407]Sign Darrelle Revis and move him to free safety? Only a 1-2 year deal. Might not be a bad move. I'd still draft at least 1 safety.[/quote]

actually it would be a bad move, he quit on the Jets last year.... saying he made a half- hearted effort to tackle would be generous... ..he was just going through the motions

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[quote=Irrefutable;1166424]actually it would be a bad move, he quit on the Jets last year.... saying he made a half- hearted effort to tackle would be generous... ..he was just going through the motions[/quote]

I'm sure a lot of players gave up on the Jets last year lol.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1166424]actually it would be a bad move, he quit on the Jets last year.... saying he made a half- hearted effort to tackle would be generous... ..he was just going through the motions[/quote]

Agree..I'd like us to stay away from safety position in free agency overall. Grab a free safety draft pick in the top 4 rounds of the draft

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[quote=Chico23231;1166427]Agree..I'd like us to stay away from safety position in free agency overall. Grab a free safety draft pick in the top 4 rounds of the draft[/quote]

If we don't sign any, I'd draft 2 safeties this year.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1166428]If we don't sign any, I'd draft 2 safeties this year.[/quote]

Yeah, I mean you could bring a guy in free agency for depth or too challenge for a spot, but I would not spend big money on any of the free agents. Maybe a vet to back up Cravens at strong safety? That wouldn't be a bad move.

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Revis is old, washed up, slow and very rich. He is done.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1166439]Revis is old, washed up, slow and very rich. He is done.[/quote]

That sounds like Snyder's type of free-agent

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D Jax hype....

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/06/desean-jackson-poised-for-a-big-thursday-deal/]DeSean Jackson poised for a big Thursday deal | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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Nothing wrong with DJax getting paid somewhere. I think he gave us a boost at a time we needed it, and if he stays here great. At the same token, his best days may be behind him, so I am ok if the team doesn't want to overpay for a 12-14 game player.

Not a knock on him, just what he has been while here.

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Only time I've ever been upset with D-Jax is when he tried to get too cute with that punt return against the Cowboys in 2015. Other than that, he's been a good player. I can't complain. He's made the homerun ball look easy at times. He still has some left in the tank. Actually would rather see him not go back to Philly though.

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[quote=metalskins;1166510]Only time I've ever been upset with D-Jax is when he tried to get too cute with that punt return against the Cowboys in 2015. Other than that, he's been a good player. I can't complain. He's made the homerun ball look easy at times. He still has some left in the tank. Actually would rather see him not go back to Philly though.[/quote]

With their cap situation it would be hard for them to work it out. They have $8M in space. If they release Connor Barwin they could clear a good chunk, but absent that it doesn't seem affordable for them.

Tampa is supposedly looking at him hard.

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[quote=Schneed10;1166514]With their cap situation it would be hard for them to work it out. They have $8M in space. If they release Connor Barwin they could clear a good chunk, but absent that it doesn't seem affordable for them.

Tampa is supposedly looking at him hard.[/quote]

Yeah, that sounds like a pretty good fit for Jackson. He's definitely going to make Tampa Bay's offense better.

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[quote=metalskins;1166510]Only time I've ever been upset with D-Jax is when he tried to get too cute with that punt return against the Cowboys in 2015. Other than that, he's been a good player. I can't complain. He's made the homerun ball look easy at times. He still has some left in the tank. Actually would rather see him not go back to Philly though.[/quote]

Yeah, that one got me & the catch in the playoff game against the Packers where I thought he could've scored, but had the ball in the wrong hand. We ended with a FG, but maybe I'm too harsh on him.

It pissed me off at the time though....I hated that we gave up a chance to score a TD there.

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Good for Djax and PG if they leave, gotta get that money while it lasts. Wonder if we will talk to alshon Jeffrey at all? Talk about a Rz target.

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Great to hear garçon requested a trade during the season...confirmed by his agent. Fuck him, he can leave

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[quote=Chico23231;1166564]Great to hear garçon requested a trade during the season...confirmed by his agent. Fuck him, he can leave[/quote]

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/62093/Report--Pierre-Garcon-Requested-Trade-Mid-Season/Default.aspx]Report: Pierre Garcon Requested Trade Mid-Season[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1166565][url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/62093/Report--Pierre-Garcon-Requested-Trade-Mid-Season/Default.aspx]Report: Pierre Garcon Requested Trade Mid-Season[/url][/quote]

Keim saying 100% true...

And this from garçon agent:

His agent, Brad Cicala said"Once it didn't happen we respected it.We respect their interest and we were definitely interested in returning."

You wanted a trade and now it's cool? Wtf is that shit?

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Yeah since this is true, this makes sense why the skins haven't rushed in on him. That's a bush league move to pull. He can leave for all I'm concerned. Plus he's 31 now and on the decline

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1166557]Good for Djax and PG if they leave, gotta get that money while it lasts. [B]Wonder if we will talk to alshon Jeffrey at all?[/B] Talk about a Rz target.

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The money it would take, I doubt it

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1166571]The money it would take, I doubt it[/quote]

Prob so but it would be nice

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Need a youth movement anyway. Draft a receiver and sign a good ufa receiver or two. The team is bound to get a couple keepers!!!

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Yeah as Poe would cost a lot of money!

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I don't get the disdain for Garcon. If we could have traded him for a DL mid season it could have been one of those few trades where both sides won. I imagine he certainly saw the tea leaves that we were going younger at WR. In fact had we traded him, it might have opened the door to keeping Djax - though probably not. Doesn't sound like it was a get me the F outta here, from the reports.

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and by the way, just say no to receivers - Please!! Use a few late rounders on speedsters, and develop them. Our receiving corps even minus DJax and PG is NOT the team's top (or even middle) need!

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[quote=Chico23231;1166566]Keim saying 100% true...

And this from garçon agent:

His agent, Brad Cicala said"Once it didn't happen we respected it.We respect their interest and we were definitely interested in returning."

You wanted a trade and now it's cool? Wtf is that shit?[/quote]

That's all said just to try and gain some sort of leverage. They don't want to completely shut the door on the Redskins in case other teams don't want to offer him a big payday.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1166596]and by the way, just say no to receivers - Please!! Use a few late rounders on speedsters, and develop them. Our receiving corps even minus DJax and PG is NOT the team's top (or even middle) need![/quote]

If Jackson and Garcon leave its gonna be our #2 priority.
We are then left with Crowder and some gimpy kid.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/07/report-broncos-buccaneers-interested-in-chris-baker/]Report: Broncos, Buccaneers interested in Chris Baker | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Looks like Bucs and Broncos chasing Swaggy.