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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214805]A safety who takes bad angles to the ball carrier doesn't fit any scheme.

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The bigger problem isn’t that HHCD isn’t playing well. It’s who is making the decisions to trade draft picks for players who don’t fit the scheme well? Who’s the driving force behind making personnel decisions? There’s been a number of blunders this year. Is it Allen, Gruden, Doug?


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Monte Nicholson was outright horrible this year...HaHa is a scapegoat here and that's fine, but he's played better Monte like it or not.

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I'm not even going to give HHCD any credit, he's been trash, and so was Montae.

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Is there any hope for Troy Apke at safety? I never saw him play. He had some pretty nice measurables at the combine.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1214812]Is there any hope for Troy Apke at safety? I never saw him play. He had some pretty nice measurables at the combine.[/QUOTE]



I don’t know much about him but the way people talk around here, he was a throw away pick. Good for special teams but not much else. I think people said he stunk in pre season before getting hurt.


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Too early to tell on Apke.

Seems that fans never learn when it comes to judging players in their rookie years.

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[quote=MTK;1214810]I'm not even going to give HHCD any credit, he's been trash, and so was Montae.[/quote]

he was brought in to lift the defense...he hasn't. he has to squeeze the int sunday, he has to tackle cooper in dallas, he hasn't made these plays.

Safety is a problem again with HaHa and Swearinger both gone. Montae facing a likely suspension and has been injured in some capacity his first 2 years in the league. Apke garbage pick, cant play...he couldn't play in college.

lotta work there.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1214812]Is there any hope for Troy Apke at safety? I never saw him play. He had some pretty nice measurables at the combine.[/QUOTE]I don't think so. He is a workout warrior.

No instincts at all.

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[quote=Chico23231;1214816]he was brought in to lift the defense...he hasn't. he has to squeeze the int sunday, he has to tackle cooper in dallas, he hasn't made these plays.

Safety is a problem again with HaHa and Swearinger both gone. Montae facing a likely suspension and has been injured in some capacity his first 2 years in the league. Apke garbage pick, cant play...he couldn't play in college.

lotta work there.[/quote]


How quick it is where safety is again a need smh

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[quote=Meks;1214818]How quick it is where safety is again a need smh[/quote]

Couple things...the Free Agency class is solid and the Draft class has some players.

Also look at the trend lately, there were some decent guys late into free agency.

You could go get a solid player like Tre Boston for cheap or maybe spend a little more and get Honey Badger.

Swearinger and HaHa not working out could be a blessing in disguise. But again, do I trust the worst NFL executive in the league to improve the team?

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[QUOTE=MTK;1214815]Too early to tell on Apke.



Seems that fans never learn when it comes to judging players in their rookie years.[/QUOTE]Fair, but at this point in his career, he isn't going to have much of an opportunity to develop football instincts.

Training camp and pre-season are going to be his chances to develop, not show what he has.

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/player-blurb-troy-apke-ss-penn-state/amp/[/url]

His scouting report is what he has shown in the NFL so far. Not saying it's impossible, but drastic improvement is definitely an uphill struggle.

I think only playing safety 1 year in college really hurts him. He doesn't have that repetition and muscle memory.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214820]Fair, but at this point in his career, he isn't going to have much of an opportunity to develop football instincts.

Training camp and pre-season are going to be his chances to develop, not show what he has.

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/player-blurb-troy-apke-ss-penn-state/amp/[/url]

His scouting report is what he has shown in the NFL so far. Not saying it's impossible, but drastic improvement is definitely an uphill struggle.

I think only playing safety 1 year in college really hurts him. He doesn't have that repetition and muscle memory.

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There are a TON of top tier safeties available in FA. All 30 or younger. Earl Thomas, Landon Collins, LaMarcus Joyner, Tyrann Mathieu.

I think they’ll look there to address it, and maybe give HHCD a full offseason to work in the defense before giving up on him.


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214822]There are a TON of top tier safeties available in FA. All 30 or younger. Earl Thomas, Landon Collins, LaMarcus Joyner, Tyrann Mathieu.

I think they’ll look there to address it


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I’m still kinda butthurt we didnt draft Collins especially since he grew up idolizing ST. I know he wasn’t the type of safety we were looking for at the time but... come on.


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Problem with HHCD is he's a free agent, so you can't just give him another test run.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1214825]Problem with HHCD is he's a free agent, so you can't just give him another test run.[/QUOTE]



If the Skins gave up a pick to get him, I’d think they’re interested in keeping him longer than a half season rental.

You think that he’ll still command top dollar considering Green Bay just dumped him, and he’s played so poorly in Washington?

I’m hoping they can sign him to a reasonable deal considering all of that, and with the Bama connection.


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214826]If the Skins gave up a pick to get him, I’d think they’re interested in keeping him longer than a half season rental.

You think that he’ll still command top dollar considering Green Bay just dumped him, and he’s played so poorly in Washington?

I’m hoping they can sign him to a reasonable deal considering all of that, and with the Bama connection.


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I think it all depends if we drop Manusky (praying they do) then who comes here to coach defense. If they see HaHa workin within their scheme, I wouldn't be opposed.

sidenote...if there was every a time to go base 4-3, its now. Our personnel lines up nice

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214828]I think it all depends if we drop Manusky (praying they do) then who comes here to coach defense. If they see HaHa workin within their scheme, I wouldn't be opposed.



sidenote...if there was every a time to go base 4-3, its now. Our personnel lines up nice[/QUOTE]



I hope they let Manuksy go and promote Tomsula


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214826]If the Skins gave up a pick to get him, I’d think they’re interested in keeping him longer than a half season rental.

You think that he’ll still command top dollar considering Green Bay just dumped him, and he’s played so poorly in Washington?

I’m hoping they can sign him to a reasonable deal considering all of that, and with the Bama connection.


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I’m sure the hope was he’d come in an ball out but he didn’t so they can let him walk and get a compensatory pick in return.

I’d guess they’ll let him test the market and go from there.



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[quote=MTK;1214834]I’m sure the hope was he’d come in an ball out but he didn’t so they can let him walk and get a compensatory pick in return.

I’d guess they’ll let him test the market and go from there.



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"test the market" ploy, huh?

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Well, they’ll be looking for a corner too, because you can bet Norman will be gone as well.


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214837]Well, they’ll be looking for a corner too, because you can bet Norman will be gone as well.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I would guess he'll be back one more year.

[url]https://overthecap.com/player/josh-norman/1177/[/url]

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214837]Well, they’ll be looking for a corner too, because you can bet Norman will be gone as well.


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I think the first thing we need to do is approach Josh about the contract and finding a way to reduce his cap impact. He's not in a good position to get a large contract on the open market, I think there is a decent change to get something done.

Josh wasn't terrible, but his play doesn't warrant that cap number. Id like to see him back at a reduced number, which I think is possible.

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Norman’s cap number is actually less in 2019 than it was this year


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[url]https://overthecap.com/player/ryan-kerrigan/1462/[/url]

I know this is getting off topic, but what will and what should happen with Ryan?

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[quote=MTK;1214840]Norman’s cap number is actually less in 2019 than it was this year


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true, but no way we had leverage with the dead money hit this year to renegotiate . Post June 1 cut is like 3 million...I believe. That's some relief.

Id like to see if we could get something done...Josh doesn't miss time and play is solid. With Dunbar kinda question...Fabien having a bad year...Id like to see Norman in Skins uni next year.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1214841][url]https://overthecap.com/player/ryan-kerrigan/1462/[/url]

I know this is getting off topic, but what will and what should happen with Ryan?

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maybe extend him...put him in a 4-3 alignment with hand in dirt alongside Matty I, Daron, and Allen. Have Hamilton and Anderson as OLBs with the Zach Bown Band playing MLB.

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I’d shop Kerrigan to be honest, love the guy but I’d go full rebuild mode given the QB situation and start selling off assets


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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214843]maybe extend him...put him in a 4-3 alignment with hand in dirt alongside Matty I, Daron, and Allen. Have Hamilton and Anderson as OLBs with the Zach Bown Band playing MLB.[/QUOTE]Dude, you're 100% right. He and Preston aren't OLB.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1214845]Dude, you're 100% right. He and Preston aren't OLB.

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let preston walk...

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1214841][url]https://overthecap.com/player/ryan-kerrigan/1462/[/url]

I know this is getting off topic, but what will and what should happen with Ryan?

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Depends how Smith progresses. If it's looking like you need to do something at QB then consider moving him for a pick to get him off your salary cap so you can sign Bridgewater or something.

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[quote=MTK;1214844]I’d shop Kerrigan to be honest, love the guy but I’d go full rebuild mode given the QB situation and start selling off assets


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THis right here.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1214859]THis right here.[/quote]

I have zero hope in it actually happening though. Even though now is the perfect time while expectations are rock bottom.

Instead I know we're going to slap some more lipstick on this pig and try to keep selling hope to a fan base that is rotting away.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1214844]I’d shop Kerrigan to be honest, love the guy but I’d go full rebuild mode given the QB situation and start selling off assets


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I could deal with it in a complete reboot mode but I can't get out of my head that this defense could get us way higher with a good coaching staff.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214805]A safety who takes bad angles to the ball carrier doesn't fit any scheme.

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Exactly what I was thinking. What scheme works for shit on a stick?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214809]Monte Nicholson was outright horrible this year...HaHa is a scapegoat here and that's fine, but he's played better Monte like it or not.[/QUOTE]



No way. HAHA was worse. Montae aint that good or anything but HAHA was fucking terrible.

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[quote=Chico23231;1214846]let preston walk...[/quote]

I agree....check Preston Smith's career stats....he hasn't totalled a double digit sack season in 4 years....let him walk and draft either Landris Durham from Texas A&M or Carl Granderson from Wyoming in the draft....they both should day 2 picks but they are excellent pass rushers.

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This is old news but it's that time of year.

On JP Finlay's podcast dated 5-2-19, Sundberg, the long snapper makes an appearance.

In the first 10 minutes of the pod, the conversation turns to how the team chooses the captains.

DJ Swearinger's claim that his team mates voted him captain and then management stripped him of the "C".

Sundberg says he doesn't think that happens and says he was listening to Grant and Danny when DJ actually called in and was live on the radio discussing his release.

Sundberg went on to say he wanted to text or call into the show to say DJ was full of crap.

Again, old news at this point, but I thought it was interesting on the long swim to training camp.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1223329]This is old news but it's that time of year.

On JP Finlay's podcast dated 5-2-19, Sundberg, the long snapper makes an appearance.

In the first 10 minutes of the pod, the conversation turns to how the team chooses the captains.

DJ Swearinger's claim that his team mates voted him captain and then management stripped him of the "C".

Sundberg says he doesn't think that happens and says he was listening to Grant and Danny when DJ actually called in and was live on the radio discussing his release.

Sundberg went on to say he wanted to text or call into the show to say DJ was full of crap.

Again, old news at this point, but I thought it was interesting on the long swim to training camp.[/quote]

This doesn't surprise me, given how Jon Allen called out Swearinger on Twitter about criticizing Manusky.

I loved the Sundberg interview. Dude was funny as hell and pretty straight up with JP. He also confirmed what many fans seem to ignore about Alex's leadership and how it was such huge loss to the team when it he went down. Interesting how Captain Kurt didn't come up in the conversation when they were talking about QB leadership. I hope JP asks him about this if/when they do follow up podcast (which needs to happen!)