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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1218902]no chance, McCoy averaged 3.2 yards per carry and has a $9.2 million dollar contract[/QUOTE]Are we not keeping AD? Thought they were talking contract

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218903]Are we not keeping AD? Thought they were talking contract

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I have no idea what Peterson wants and how close they are to signing him. They are not going to pay $9+ million for a RB.

There is very little cap space now.However, that could change with veteran cuts.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1218904]I have no idea what Peterson wants and how close they are to signing him. They are not going to pay $9+ million for a RB.

There is very little cap space now.However, that could change with veteran cuts.[/quote]

It appears that Zac Brown could be cut, they said it would create 7M in cap space I believe, and with Foster there I could see Brown going bye bye.

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Brown is definitely gone


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[url]https://twitter.com/troyrenck/status/1096537622753755136?s=21[/url]

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Thanks Elway and Denver for stepping in front of that bullet for us.

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[quote=mooby;1218913][url]https://twitter.com/troyrenck/status/1096537622753755136?s=21[/url]

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Thanks Elway and Denver for stepping in front of that bullet for us.[/quote]

That would have given the Redskins about $42 million spent on QBs in 2019....brilliant plan

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Who would have thought going into the season with Colt as the starter is probably the most realistic and smart scenario at this point.

Even if the team mortgages the future again for a 1st round QB, it makes sense to let him learn the offense behind Colt for a stretch.

Everybody knows full well that Bruce & Co. can totally make the situation worse for the team both this year and in the future by drafting stupidly (bad pick trades and reaching) and in free agency.

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The skins were never real bidders, they can't afford Flacco or foles. People need to realize it's going to be Kyler or Daniel Jones as QB1 come Sept.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218916]The skins were never real bidders, they can't afford Flacco or foles. People need to realize it's going to be Kyler or Daniel Jones as QB1 come Sept.

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Never say never. This situation reminds me of the salary cap penalty years of 2012-13 (obligatory fuck John Mara) where we lost 18 million each year. With the increase of the cap every year the percentages lost were way worse in 2012/13.

Salary cap
2012: 120.6mil
2013: 123 mil

18 mil penalty each year:
15 percent of the cap in 2012
14.6% of the cap in 2013.
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Est. salary cap for 2019: 191 mil
Alex Smith cap hit 20.4 mil
10.6% of the cap to AS.

Schneed will probably clean up my math here in a bit, but I don't think I'm way off the actual percentages. If we release AS that number goes way up because the rest of his guaranteed money adds to the cap hit.

Will it hurt? Definitely. Is it crippling? No, because we can still trade our next 3 first rounders for Kyler Murray :D.

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Do the math, Flacco was never going to happen


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Just the fact that the Redskins tried tells me they're delusional. This has Bruce Allen DNA all over it.

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[quote=MTK;1218919]Do the math, Flacco was never going to happen


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And thank god he didn't. He's not any good anymore, he was benched for a QB that cant pass...

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[quote=skinsfan69;1218944]Just the fact that the Redskins tried tells me they're delusional. This has Bruce Allen DNA all over it.[/quote]

I don't think doing a due diligence is end of the world. Maybe Flacco wanted to stay in the DC/Baltimore area. With our current qb situation it's dumb not to check any potential players.

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How about a TE......TE's are becoming an important piece of today's offence.

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[quote=harriet33;1218972]How about a TE......TE's are becoming an important piece of today's offence.[/quote]

Today's? Lol

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1218946]I don't think doing a due diligence is end of the world. Maybe Flacco wanted to stay in the DC/Baltimore area. With our current qb situation it's dumb not to check any potential players.[/quote]

I agree, big difference between putting out a feeler for a player and actually making a push to trade for him.

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I wouldn't be shocked if Flacco does well with the Broncos. Made a home run hire in Munchak as their OL coach who will greatly improve the pass protection. When Flacco has time to throw, he can do some damage. He will also greatly benefit from their new QB friendly system (Kyle Shannahan's).

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What is the cap hit if we cut Jordan Reed and his $9.7M salary? He is 5% of our cap and it is a 100% chance he will be hurt next year.

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[quote=Defensewins;1219036]What is the cap hit if we cut Jordan Reed and his $9.7M salary? He is 5% of our cap and it is a 100% chance he will be hurt next year.[/quote]

$3.6 million dead cap hit.... and about $6 million dollar savings

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1219037]$3.6 million dead cap hit.... and about $6 million dollar savings[/QUOTE]

So the choice of cutting a concussion prone TE that cannot block and misses more games than not or an athletic ILB that played through injury last year. The decision is easy.
I am intrigued to see Brown and Rueben Foster play together in behind our formidable Dline.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1219043]So the choice of cutting a concussion prone TE that cannot block and misses more games than not or an athletic ILB that played through injury last year. The decision is easy.

I am intrigued to see Brown and Rueben Foster play together in behind our formidable Dline.[/QUOTE]Ditto.

SDH should be fully healthy this year too.

He should be much improved due to the recovery time of his injury and the typical jump good hard working players make in their 2nd year.

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[quote=Defensewins;1219043]So the choice of cutting a concussion prone TE that cannot block and misses more games than not or an athletic ILB that played through injury last year. The decision is easy.
I am intrigued to see Brown and Rueben Foster play together in behind our formidable Dline.[/quote]

We already saw Brown play behind our formidable d-line, he sucked. We need to move on from Mason Foster and Brown.

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[quote=mooby;1219047]We already saw Brown play behind our formidable d-line, he sucked. We need to move on from Mason Foster and Brown.[/quote]

He played through injurys last year and it affected his play. Plus he did not have another athletic ILB playing next to him like he will this coming year. He led the team in tackles in 2017 when healthy.
I know some have their panties in a bunch about him speaking out against our coaching. But we all did that. Our coaching needed to get called out.
I think it is worth one year to see how they all look on the field playing together.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1219045]Ditto.

SDH should be fully healthy this year too.

He should be much improved due to the recovery time of his injury and the typical jump good hard working players make in their 2nd year.

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I agree.
There are several players that have had another year to improve and could help fill the holes. Looking forward to see them:

OL Geron Christian
DT Tim Settle
RB Derius Guice
CB Joshua Holsey
CB Fabian Moraeu
TE Jeremy Sprinkle
WR Trey Quinn
DB Adonis Alexander
LB Josh Harvey Clemons

Plus what is going to happen to DB Montea Nicholson and his legal issues? Was he cut?
If all of these guys come back better that will be huge. The list has a huge quantity of potentially good to great DB’s. Leads to the question of Josh Norman and his huge salary. Would he become expendable and what would his cut hit be?

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According to another less reputable site:

Below is a list of some players who can be cut, and the savings to the team for doing so.

Josh Norman: 8.5 million

Zach Brown: 5.75 million

Vernon Davis: 5 million

Chris Thompson: 3 million

Stacy McGee: 2.3 million

Mason Foster: 2 million

Savings: $26.55 million

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[quote=Defensewins;1219052]According to another less reputable site:

Below is a list of some players who can be cut, and the savings to the team for doing so.

Josh Norman: 8.5 million

Zach Brown: 5.75 million

Vernon Davis: 5 million

Chris Thompson: 3 million

Stacy McGee: 2.3 million

Mason Foster: 2 million

Savings: $26.55 million[/quote]

Getting rid of Vernon Davis saves $5 mil, are you kidding me? That would be a no brainer, he always had hands of stone and his best years have long since passed.

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[quote=Defensewins;1219052]According to another less reputable site:

Below is a list of some players who can be cut, and the savings to the team for doing so.

Josh Norman: 8.5 million

Zach Brown: 5.75 million

Vernon Davis: 5 million

Chris Thompson: 3 million

Stacy McGee: 2.3 million

Mason Foster: 2 million

Savings: $26.55 million[/quote]


I can see 3 or so cuts, however why do they need the cap space? other than to sign Scheriff....but they are not going to spend $$$$ on free agents

Alex Smith will probably be cut next year . And they only need $6 million to sign 2019 draft choices.

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Antonio Brown, anyone? His contract is for like $11-$12 mil a year for 3 years.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1219065]Antonio Brown, anyone? His contract is for like $11-$12 mil a year for 3 years.[/quote]

Brown has cap hits of:

2019 $22 million
2020 $18 million
2021 $19 million


[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/cap/2021/[/url]

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[quote=Irrefutable;1219066]Brown has cap hits of:

2019 $22 million
2020 $18 million
2021 $19 million


[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/cap/2021/[/url][/quote]

Screw that, I got some bad information in the article I read.

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AB wants a new deal wherever he goes


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“Although other teams could emerge, the belief right now is that the Raiders, Redskins and Titans are the most likely landing spots for receiver Antonio Brown, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.”

AB makes no sense here. None

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AB makes sense in that we have a huge need at WR, the current WR free agent group is pretty ho-hum, and money wise it can work if you give him a new deal. The only part I don't like is giving up picks.

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Looks like Landon Collins is going to be available: [url]https://nypost.com/2019/03/05/landon-collins-wont-get-franchise-tag-from-giants/[/url]

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My wet dream scenario:
- Resign AP
- Sign Landon Collins.
- Trade our 2nd round pick to Pittsburg for Antonio Brown (plus a player or conditional 2020 pick)
- Trade a 3rd round pick plus a conditional 2020 pick (1st to 3rd) to Arizona (based on Rosen's performance)
- Draft Hockenson at 15 if he's there.
- Kate Upton paying me for sex.

*EDIT - @Buffalo_Bob made a great suggestion.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1219438]My wet dream scenario:
- Resign AP
- Sign Landon Collins.
- Trade our 2nd round pick to Pittsburg for Antonio Brown (plus a player or conditional 2020 pick)
- Trade a 3rd round pick plus a conditional 2020 pick (1st to 3rd) to Arizona (based on Rosen's performance)
- Draft Hockenson at 15 if he's there.[/quote]

Might as well put Kate Upton paying you for sex on that list also.

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[quote=buffalo bob;1219442]might as well put kate upton paying you for sex on that list also.[/quote]

lol

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[quote=Defensewins;1219052]According to another less reputable site:

Below is a list of some players who can be cut, and the savings to the team for doing so.

Josh Norman: 8.5 million

Zach Brown: 5.75 million

Vernon Davis: 5 million

Chris Thompson: 3 million

Stacy McGee: 2.3 million

Mason Foster: 2 million

Savings: $26.55 million[/quote]

I'm letting all of these walk besides Norman, we need to keep him

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I'd try to make VD take a pay cut before cutting him, but if we can find a nice rookie in the draft go ahead and cut him. This is a good TE draft.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1219450]I'm letting all of these walk besides Norman, we need to keep him[/quote]

Agreed. I'd have doubt about MF and CT too. But I'd be ok with it.